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November 21, 2017, 12:13:18 AM
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Sop let's say my local insurance guy wants to sell these, he's going to have to concern himself with this token, too?

Yes. From the whitepaper I quoted before:

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These Global distribution partners seeking to market our Tontines, shall first be required
to purchase and lock down TON$ with a value equal to 5% of monthly expected referral
volumes. This stake shall act as a surety deposit for Tontine Trust to protect against the
risk of advisors miss-selling to members.

So your local insurance guy has a financial incentive to offer the tontine (amongst other products) that gives him a competitive commission and his customers 30 to 40 percent more revenue. But say you don't even ask the local intermediary and instead buy TON tokens yourself and buy into a tontine:

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TON$ holders which are intending to invest in the Tontines themselves can utilise this
Partner staking system to generate a 5% bonus for themselves by staking their TON$
and using their own partner code when joining the Tontine. This may be the first
legitimate retirement product in history where the saver immediately gets more capital
value upon investment (105%) rather than seeing their capital value immediately
depleted by up to 30% due to fees. Accordingly, TON$ Holders not using an Advisor are
rewarded for holding the TON$ if they invest in the Tontines.







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November 21, 2017, 09:22:09 AM
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dear all
here is the Arabic translation of the ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2435990.new#new

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November 30, 2017, 06:28:48 PM
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dear all
here is the Arabic translation of the ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2435990.new#new

Shukran Sayed

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December 07, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
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What are your main competitors ? Are there any ready products from you or them ?
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December 07, 2017, 06:27:31 AM
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What are your main competitors ? Are there any ready products from you or them ?


No competitors. Yet.
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December 07, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
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Hello! I am an editor from icoholder.com. Your IСO was added to our listing and now is available to investors: https://icoholder.com/en/ico/tontinetrust-16159. If you want to fill out your profile with more information, want to add, change something - feel free to contact me
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December 19, 2017, 11:01:15 AM
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Great article by Retirement Industry Expert William Borton, Managing Principal at W.R. Borton & Associates

To Live Better Longer, you may soon find yourself investing in a tontine - 12/18/2017 11:22 pm ET

"In a tontine, the investors act like their own insurance company, sharing the risk among themselves, saving thousands in annual costs, and allowing the capital to be invested in a sensible spread of investments which have a much better chance of beating inflation.

Over the years, as members of the tontine die off, their share is distributed among the other members in the form of mortality credits. This means that the longer a member lives, the more monthly income they will receive. Talk about a hedge against inflation!

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what sort of rock-solid product this Gibraltar company will be bringing to our shores next year. I will be watching closely to see if Tontines fulfill their potential to help me and my generation “Live Better, Longer”.


Full article here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/to-live-better-longer-you-may-soon-find-yourself-investing_us_5a366f56e4b0e1b4472ae739



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December 19, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
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We really need something like this TONTINETRUST in the crypto world! Can you provide more information about this project? How can i mine this coin?
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December 29, 2017, 06:57:37 PM
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You may not have Retirement Income Journal at the top of your morning reading list, and neither do your parents but this is where your parents financial advisors (if they are first class) get all the best information.

They have just covered a major in-depth study of Tontine Trust including carrying out interviews on Tontine Trust with many North American retirement funding industry experts.

While it is very nice to get featured in Cointelegraph etc (hint hint), the normally very conservative US retirement industry is starting to get excited about what we are building. This ultimately is the best the barometer of how successful the Token Sale can be.  Grin Grin

The full article can now be read here: http://retirementincomejournal.com/issue/december-21-2017/article/the-crypto-capitalist-and-his-digital-tontine

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January 11, 2018, 12:52:23 PM
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For everybody wanting to learn more about tontines (explaining the actual economics of a tontine rather than the crypto / blockchain side) here is an elaborate interview with Richard, our CFA, conducted by Bill Borton from 'Live better longer':

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/111734986

The video will probably be moved to another URL in a couple of days so I will try to update the link then.


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January 11, 2018, 01:14:18 PM
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Also Bloomberg has discovered the new old kid on the retirement block:

https://www.bna.com/tontines-meet-blockchain-n73014473005/


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January 15, 2018, 12:13:00 PM
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TontineTrust with a rating 4.26 out of 5.0 on our ICO list
https://icoholder.com/en/ico/tontinetrust-16159

The ICO and project team has been verified. We interviewed the team members.

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January 16, 2018, 01:38:08 AM
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Tontines will solve real world problems like this one:

Carillion "has a pension deficit of 580 million pounds". 43.000  people either not going to get their retirement funds OR the taxpayer will have to jump in.

Tontines for the rescue!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-carillion-restructuring/britains-carillion-collapses-after-banks-pull-the-plug-idUSKBN1F40P0


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January 19, 2018, 02:35:56 AM
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Interesting and practical project!

What is the difference from Auctus?
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January 19, 2018, 02:19:41 PM
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Auctus started accepting investor money as a B2B platform.

2 days after TontineTrust finished filing our patents and published our whitepaper, they announced that they were stopping their sale and reviewing their business plan to focus on a more consumer centric proposition. They now seem to be offering some form of hybrid human/robo advisory platform - far removed from their original concept and if it will change yet again who knows?

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January 20, 2018, 12:45:43 AM
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The project is interesting, it is worth paying attention to for detailed study. How soon do you plan to open the sale of tokens?

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January 21, 2018, 01:11:22 PM
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Hi, currently the private pre-sale is underway. It is anticipated that the public pre-sale will start mid February to be followed by the Token Sale. If you register to the subscriber list at www.tontinetrust.com you will be emailed the sale dates and terms as soon as they are released.
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January 22, 2018, 05:37:43 AM
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Thank you for sharing informatin. Are you team?
Pension scheme is changing?

Auctus started accepting investor money as a B2B platform.

2 days after TontineTrust finished filing our patents and published our whitepaper, they announced that they were stopping their sale and reviewing their business plan to focus on a more consumer centric proposition. They now seem to be offering some form of hybrid human/robo advisory platform - far removed from their original concept and if it will change yet again who knows?


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January 23, 2018, 06:19:25 AM
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Hi - yes I am a team member.

To clarify WE have not changes our vision or project in any way. I was referring to Auctus Project, who changed their white paper and business plan shortly after closing their token sale.
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