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June 23, 2013, 01:47:02 AM
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Hello

I want the moderators to give AquaMan a SCAM tag. Several hours ago we i made a deal through PM here on the forum with him.
I wanted to buy 100 LTC from him in 4 transactions of 25 LTC each. So i sent him the first part in BTC which was 0.759 BTC while he
was online. So I PM'd him it was sent and gave him also the transaction-ID. Suddenly he went offline, so i thought lets wait a bit more
as he might be waiting for confirmations of the BTC.

Now hours later he just came back online on the forum but still did not send the 25 LTC, did not reply to any of my PM's.

The whole deal was done through PM so moderators/admins can check the PM's between him and me whenever needed.

I assume before he gets the SCAM tag he'll get a bit more time to react or still complete the transaction ?


Thank you

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June 23, 2013, 04:26:10 AM
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take screenshots and post them asap

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June 23, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
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I invite any moderator or admin to verify the PM's in my account. If needed i will supply you the password.
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June 23, 2013, 11:24:08 PM
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I invite any moderator or admin to verify the PM's in my account. If needed i will supply you the password.

They will not do this. The burden of proof is on you. Post screenshots.
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June 24, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
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I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies.

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June 24, 2013, 12:12:53 AM
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I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies.

Thank you and although i did keep in mind i might get scammed i didn't think it would be for such a little amount to risk his account and trust ratings.
(also the reason why i wanted to do it in 4 transactions despite him asking for the full amount in 1 transaction)

Looks like you got some positive feed back from John K and others, so i don't mind giving you my password so you can verify the PM's and post here that AquaMan is a scammer and must get a scamtag.
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June 24, 2013, 01:05:36 AM
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I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies.

Thank you and although i did keep in mind i might get scammed i didn't think it would be for such a little amount to risk his account and trust ratings.
(also the reason why i wanted to do it in 4 transactions despite him asking for the full amount in 1 transaction)

Looks like you got some positive feed back from John K and others, so i don't mind giving you my password so you can verify the PM's and post here that AquaMan is a scammer and must get a scamtag.

you can use this tool to rapidly upload screenshots

http://snapper.imgland.net/

simply download it, run it, and hit alt f1 or alt f2 and then hit paste to put the links to the pictures here

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June 24, 2013, 02:14:00 AM
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Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated.
All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass
to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is.
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June 24, 2013, 02:18:26 AM
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Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated.
All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass
to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is.


you must provide the screenshots first, then and only then will the mods check your pms to see if the screenshots have been doctored. you'll never get a response without providing screenshots. I do believe you that Aquaman is a scammer though. several have been caught in his scams.

My negative trust rating is reflective of a personal vendetta by someone on default trust.
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June 24, 2013, 02:33:40 AM
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Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated.
All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass
to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is.


this is why i urged you to post as soon as possible after it occurred. the belief that they could be manipulated is mitigated more more and the sooner they have been put up, gives the accuser less time to manipulate the screenshot.

only the admin can access your pms.

you did the right thing reporting this to the community.

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June 24, 2013, 04:23:57 AM
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He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade.
I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away.

PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less.

So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins.
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June 24, 2013, 04:35:04 AM
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* r3wt listens to the crickets

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June 24, 2013, 08:51:55 AM
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He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade.
I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away.

PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less.

So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins.


You have two options here: 

1) Do what the people on this forum are asking of you, even if you feel its a waste of your time.  We have established conventions around here for reasons and you will only received help if you first follow what people are telling you to do.

2) If you feel that it's a waste of your time to do as we ask, we can only assume that it's not an important enough issue to keep investigate further and we will consider this as you deciding you do not want to pursue the matter any further.

It's your choice, if you want our help, you'll have to do these tasks that we ask.  If you do not, we sincerely wish you the best of luck in resolving the situation on your own.

And btw, taking screenshots and uploading them would have taken less time than posting here about hos it's a waste of time to do so.
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June 24, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
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He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade.
I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away.

PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less.

So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins.


You don't understand, the database doesn't take "a minute" to check. Stop being lazy, and post the screenshots if you want help from the community.

I'm dabbling in Bitcointalk again - I won't be making trades with people. If I try to trade with you, ask for a signature from my address 171717... which I have had control of since about 2015. If I can't provide it, I might have been hacked.
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June 25, 2013, 04:42:01 AM
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He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade.
I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away.

PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less.

So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins.


You don't understand, the database doesn't take "a minute" to check. Stop being lazy, and post the screenshots if you want help from the community.

I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts.
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June 25, 2013, 04:55:16 AM
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I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts.

PM me your login.

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June 25, 2013, 01:44:23 PM
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I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts.

PM me your login.

Thank you, sending you now my login ! All PM's between me and AquaMan are in the inbox & outbox. Once done please post here your findings.

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June 25, 2013, 02:09:52 PM
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.

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June 25, 2013, 02:32:17 PM
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.

Tomatocage, could you put some proof/screenshots up?

I'm dabbling in Bitcointalk again - I won't be making trades with people. If I try to trade with you, ask for a signature from my address 171717... which I have had control of since about 2015. If I can't provide it, I might have been hacked.
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June 25, 2013, 02:35:06 PM
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.

Tomatocage, could you put some proof/screenshots up?

I logged in and saw the exchange between AquaMan and biggie, but I didn't take screen shots (I can't on my phone).

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