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Author Topic: Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS  (Read 384686 times)
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September 23, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
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25% from me James.
Estimated to start staking around 2-5 October.
I only acquired a reasonable amount lately.

Thanks rgm, it's appreciated Smiley. I just bought another 750 Cap so I'll throw that in too.
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September 25, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
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Since I saw this was an issue with TEK, although the coin was changed without much discussion, I did want to get out in front of it here, ahead of any complaints.

The good news is people are staking wonderfully on the CAP network. Last 1000 blocks like 80-90% are being carried by PoS. This is great!

The news is, this is also causing the PoS difficulty to increase. Great for network security, and inflation, but not so good for high yield investment.

The bad news (albeit not unexpected) is the staking percentage is lowering, as per the coding requirements, and is sitting at 180-190% per year, currently.

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BottleCaps - Extended Staking Information
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Client Version: v2.2.0.0-ge1d17f0-Caps2.0
Protocol Version: 70004
Current Wallet Version: 60000

Last PoS Block Number: 653706
Last PoS Block Time: Thu Sep 25 19:46:54 2014

Current PoS Difficulty: 0.00557616
Current PoS Netweight: 450936
Current PoS Yearly Interest: 183%

Wallet PoS Weight: ??

Auto Savings Address: ??
Auto Savings Percentage: 50

Network Money Supply: 6224107.386502 CAP

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OK  
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I am not suggesting and won't do anything rash. I am actually good with it, as it stands right now. I would like a lot more data to analyze before any change is made. At least another 6 months to 1 year.

Looks like the staking is starting to slow down, so the difficulty should lower soon. But if we want to discuss changing this at some point, please feel free.

Thoughts?

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September 26, 2014, 12:10:44 AM
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My bank doesn't even pay 1% Tongue

I like this demand driven change in the PoS rate. I don't understand what happened over at TEK 100%, but since I'm assuming that more CAP'pers leave their wallets open to stake since they have more blocks due to the max block reward in place, this has been a gradual versus sporadic thing in CAP. For example, I got a 40% TEK stake recently after getting around 20% stakes on the 31st, and now there are reports of a 5% one, but I don't know how true that is. I think TEK should probably move over to a max block reward of some sort like CAP since it will only make the network stronger and any rate changes smoother for wallets to be open as often as possible.

Fact is, the demand for CAP staking is greater atm, hence the lower the rate that needs to be paid to entice people to stake. If they don't like it, they can stop staking, sell, and see where demand and, as a result, the stake difficulty go.

High PoS coins are demand-driven financial assets that price their prospective rate themselves Grin This is some spooky stuff here; SkyNet is next Shocked
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September 26, 2014, 12:12:20 AM
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Also, that's a nice spec command in CAP. What's the RPC call for it and does any other coin have that? TEK and others definitely need it since it saves on the maths for figuring it out alone.
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September 26, 2014, 12:43:48 AM
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Also, that's a nice spec command in CAP. What's the RPC call for it and does any other coin have that? TEK and others definitely need it since it saves on the maths for figuring it out alone.

HBN had it first.  Wink  A few other coins may have it as well now. I think GRW and maybe TRK but not sure...



That is from the gui. Just click on the network->Current PoS Info. Or click the Staking Icon.

The RPC command is getmininginfo

Code:
20:44:29

getmininginfo


20:44:29
{
"blocks" : 653796,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 13.33697954,
"errors" : "",
"netmhashps" : 397.79090942,
"netstakeweight" : 373753.01621724,
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"pooledtx" : 3,
"stakeinterest" : 1860000
"testnet" : false
}

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September 26, 2014, 12:48:49 AM
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Also, that's a nice spec command in CAP. What's the RPC call for it and does any other coin have that? TEK and others definitely need it since it saves on the maths for figuring it out alone.

HBN had it first.  Wink  A few other coins may have it as well now. I think GRW and maybe TRK but not sure...



That is from the gui. Just click on the network->Current PoS Info. Or click the Staking Icon.

The RPC command is getmininginfo

Code:
20:44:29

getmininginfo


20:44:29
{
"blocks" : 653796,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 13.33697954,
"errors" : "",
"netmhashps" : 397.79090942,
"netstakeweight" : 373753.01621724,
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"pooledtx" : 3,
"stakeinterest" : 1860000
"testnet" : false
}

Sexy; thank you Grin I'll check it out in HBN later and if TEK doesn't have this, it needs it posthaste!
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September 26, 2014, 12:52:09 AM
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Sexy; thank you Grin I'll check it out in HBN later and if TEK doesn't have this, it needs it posthaste!

Every code change is completely public, and available for review, copy, enhancements, whatever.  I never release wallets from hidden source, unless expressly told. If someone wants to use the work I do, it's there for their enjoyment!

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September 26, 2014, 12:53:51 AM
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My bank doesn't even pay 1% Tongue

I like this demand driven change in the PoS rate. I don't understand what happened over at TEK 100%, but since I'm assuming that more CAP'pers leave their wallets open to stake since they have more blocks due to the max block reward in place, this has been a gradual versus sporadic thing in CAP. For example, I got a 40% TEK stake recently after getting around 20% stakes on the 31st, and now there are reports of a 5% one, but I don't know how true that is. I think TEK should probably move over to a max block reward of some sort like CAP since it will only make the network stronger and any rate changes smoother for wallets to be open as often as possible.

Fact is, the demand for CAP staking is greater atm, hence the lower the rate that needs to be paid to entice people to stake. If they don't like it, they can stop staking, sell, and see where demand and, as a result, the stake difficulty go.

High PoS coins are demand-driven financial assets that price their prospective rate themselves Grin This is some spooky stuff here; SkyNet is next Shocked

This is basically my thoughts as well. I think it is good and working as designed, perhaps a tweak or two in the future, but nothing for sometime. I just wanted uses to be aware..

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September 26, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
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Does anyone know the RPC command for CAP's version of stake4charity/autosaving? Thanks Smiley

It is autosavings.
"help" will give you all rpc commands.
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autosavings <BottleCapsaddress> <percent> [min amount] [max amount]

Also version 2.2 is available which has it embedded in the gui.

ha - red face from me i missed this totally - Tranz I have a couple of generic questions for you before I add this to my "Oracle investment journal."

I will Pm you its very general info.

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September 26, 2014, 01:42:35 PM
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My bank doesn't even pay 1% Tongue

I like this demand driven change in the PoS rate. I don't understand what happened over at TEK 100%, but since I'm assuming that more CAP'pers leave their wallets open to stake since they have more blocks due to the max block reward in place, this has been a gradual versus sporadic thing in CAP. For example, I got a 40% TEK stake recently after getting around 20% stakes on the 31st, and now there are reports of a 5% one, but I don't know how true that is. I think TEK should probably move over to a max block reward of some sort like CAP since it will only make the network stronger and any rate changes smoother for wallets to be open as often as possible.

Fact is, the demand for CAP staking is greater atm, hence the lower the rate that needs to be paid to entice people to stake. If they don't like it, they can stop staking, sell, and see where demand and, as a result, the stake difficulty go.

High PoS coins are demand-driven financial assets that price their prospective rate themselves Grin This is some spooky stuff here; SkyNet is next Shocked

This is basically my thoughts as well. I think it is good and working as designed, perhaps a tweak or two in the future, but nothing for sometime. I just wanted uses to be aware..

My thoughts are a second to this, original statement, i think the market has an amazing ability to balance itself, everyone seemed to very much support this update but could further changes to the reward base hurt confidence down the track?

I think the perception was that the code was "unfinished / broken" you have both increased the stake making the system interesting and fixed many flaws.

from a reward perspective its seems like a "fire and forget" type aspect as growth is increasing?

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September 26, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
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Does anyone know the RPC command for CAP's version of stake4charity/autosaving? Thanks Smiley

It is autosavings.
"help" will give you all rpc commands.
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autosavings <BottleCapsaddress> <percent> [min amount] [max amount]

Also version 2.2 is available which has it embedded in the gui.

ha - red face from me i missed this totally - Tranz I have a couple of generic questions for you before I add this to my "Oracle investment journal."

I will Pm you its very general info.

Cool. Let us know when it is complete!

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September 26, 2014, 10:40:17 PM
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from a reward perspective its seems like a "fire and forget" type aspect as growth is increasing?

I agree, many people work very hard to combine, split, start and stop the wallet. I rather just turn it on and let it do its thing. It seems to do it well!

Overall I am pleased with the growth of the money supply, the users, and the price.

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September 28, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
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I have made a small quality of life change to CCE. Post links have been changed to get links on most pages.

This means that information in the explorer is now linkable:

Example:

http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/block?block=658750
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September 29, 2014, 02:44:39 AM
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High PoS Coin IRC Society

So I've been watching Hyperstake (HYP) and noted that they have a fairly active community going on in their IRC. Unlike the usual junk altcoins vying to "replace BTC" before crashing in value as "investors" move on to the next coin, high PoS coins can exist in harmony since they all provide different features and risk/return profiles to the cryptocurrency *asset* market.

Right now, I'm trying to see if there is interest in having a joint IRC channel for such coins. I'm looking to involve established coins with at least semi-active developers.

Feel free to reply and/or PM me with suggestions as well as anything that you'd be willing to offer, help with, or spearhead. I don't mind topping off tipbots, games, and other aspects, but I'm looking to have something that the community runs and is interested in doing. Thanks and happy staking Smiley
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September 29, 2014, 04:40:34 AM
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I've installed wallet (last update) and would like to download whole blockchain, but it is not sync.
My .conf is:

Code:
listen=1
addnode=50.137.233.14         
addnode=69.10.44.115           
addnode=192.64.86.238
addnode=69.85.86.195
addnode=199.180.115.100
addnode=199.180.115.125

What should I do?
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September 29, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
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I've installed wallet (last update) and would like to download whole blockchain, but it is not sync.
My .conf is:

Code:
listen=1
addnode=50.137.233.14         
addnode=69.10.44.115           
addnode=192.64.86.238
addnode=69.85.86.195
addnode=199.180.115.100
addnode=199.180.115.125

What should I do?

I never add nodes in my conf and always connect quite easily. Right now I am connected to these nodes so maybe that's helpful:

Peer IP: 72.78.100.7
Peer IP: 155.210.52.121
Peer IP: 108.61.10.90
Peer IP: 71.175.81.45
Peer IP: 69.64.50.226
Peer IP: 54.244.118.104
Peer IP: 62.210.122.161
Peer IP: 24.249.152.169
Peer IP: 62.116.254.204
Peer IP: 107.170.113.225
Peer IP: 24.253.228.92
Peer IP: 128.199.135.188

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September 29, 2014, 08:11:21 AM
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I've installed wallet (last update) and would like to download whole blockchain, but it is not sync.
My .conf is:

Code:
listen=1
addnode=50.137.233.14          
addnode=69.10.44.115            
addnode=192.64.86.238
addnode=69.85.86.195
addnode=199.180.115.100
addnode=199.180.115.125

What should I do?

I had the same problem few days earlier. I deleted whole files from bottlecaps folder (except wallet.dat) and then started the client and it start downloading blockchain properly.
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September 29, 2014, 08:14:53 AM
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BTW We got some real movement on cryptsy:)
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September 29, 2014, 05:18:33 PM
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I've installed wallet (last update) and would like to download whole blockchain, but it is not sync.
My .conf is:

Code:
listen=1
addnode=50.137.233.14         
addnode=69.10.44.115           
addnode=192.64.86.238
addnode=69.85.86.195
addnode=199.180.115.100
addnode=199.180.115.125

What should I do?

I never add nodes in my conf and always connect quite easily. Right now I am connected to these nodes so maybe that's helpful:

Peer IP: 72.78.100.7
Peer IP: 155.210.52.121
Peer IP: 108.61.10.90
Peer IP: 71.175.81.45
Peer IP: 69.64.50.226
Peer IP: 54.244.118.104
Peer IP: 62.210.122.161
Peer IP: 24.249.152.169
Peer IP: 62.116.254.204
Peer IP: 107.170.113.225
Peer IP: 24.253.228.92
Peer IP: 128.199.135.188

Good luck! 

Thanks! That did the trick Smiley
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September 29, 2014, 05:24:00 PM
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I've installed wallet (last update) and would like to download whole blockchain, but it is not sync.
My .conf is:

Code:
listen=1
addnode=50.137.233.14         
addnode=69.10.44.115           
addnode=192.64.86.238
addnode=69.85.86.195
addnode=199.180.115.100
addnode=199.180.115.125

What should I do?

I never add nodes in my conf and always connect quite easily. Right now I am connected to these nodes so maybe that's helpful:

Peer IP: 72.78.100.7
Peer IP: 155.210.52.121
Peer IP: 108.61.10.90
Peer IP: 71.175.81.45
Peer IP: 69.64.50.226
Peer IP: 54.244.118.104
Peer IP: 62.210.122.161
Peer IP: 24.249.152.169
Peer IP: 62.116.254.204
Peer IP: 107.170.113.225
Peer IP: 24.253.228.92
Peer IP: 128.199.135.188

Good luck! 

Thanks! That did the trick Smiley


This was mentioned before, but it looks like it needs to be mentioned again:

http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/peerinfo

Will show all the nodes connected to the explorer coin daemon.  Smiley

This page is on all the explorers at CCE.
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