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August 06, 2020, 07:42:22 PM
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MOSCOW, July 31 - RIA Novosti. Vladimir Putin signed a law that will allow transactions with digital financial assets (DFA) from 2021, but will ban cryptocurrencies as a means of payment in Russia.

https://ria.ru/20200731/1575229960.html

And who are going to challenge this law? There could be someone inside Russia that is influential in the crypto sphere, but I doubt they will make a U-turn.

I used Google Translate.
Interestingly how this law will make the banks and exchanges workflow have regulations tied to the central bank. This just seems like a lazy way for Russia to seize control over some digital currency whilst making sure they're not completely out of the loop.

If you ask me this plan won't be successful since I expect crypto users to not put up with this nonsense and diminish the purpose of cryptocurrency altogether. There are many ways around this, having Putin sign something doesn't mean the end of it all. Russia does have a large crypto user base so we can rely on some of them to not be subjugated to this system.





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August 07, 2020, 11:48:54 AM
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Dear ladies and gentlemen, since at the referendum the people of the Russian Federation "made a positive decision" in favor of the current head of state, the power in the country will be concentrated in the hands of Putin and beyond. Thus, there is no reason to believe that the attitude towards cryptocurrency will change in the next few years.
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August 08, 2020, 11:02:06 PM
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Dear ladies and gentlemen, since at the referendum the people of the Russian Federation "made a positive decision" in favor of the current head of state, the power in the country will be concentrated in the hands of Putin and beyond. Thus, there is no reason to believe that the attitude towards cryptocurrency will change in the next few years.

Well by now we already know that Putin wanted to remain in Power. Thus, an oppressive regime won't simply allow their people to have economic freedom without them overlooking everything. So with crypto, Russians can for some time will use it to hide their wealth and there's where this all the so called Russian regulation will come in and that is why I said that Russia or at least the people behind their government is anti-bitcoin or anti-crypto.

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August 12, 2020, 03:31:07 AM
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Dear ladies and gentlemen, since at the referendum the people of the Russian Federation "made a positive decision" in favor of the current head of state, the power in the country will be concentrated in the hands of Putin and beyond. Thus, there is no reason to believe that the attitude towards cryptocurrency will change in the next few years.

Well by now we already know that Putin wanted to remain in Power. Thus, an oppressive regime won't simply allow their people to have economic freedom without them overlooking everything. So with crypto, Russians can for some time will use it to hide their wealth and there's where this all the so called Russian regulation will come in and that is why I said that Russia or at least the people behind their government is anti-bitcoin or anti-crypto.
I think that such events will soon begin in Russia, similar to what is happening now in Khabarovsk, that the current government will no longer have time for further regulation of the cryptocurrency.
The signed law appears to be one of the best options possible under the current Russian leadership, although at the same time it is one of the worst among all states.
The law prohibits the direct use of cryptocurrency as a means of payment, however, there are many payment cards that allow you to pre-exchange cryptocurrency for a ruble and pay with a ruble. In this case, the current version of the law will not be violated.

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September 06, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
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Something I do not trust this law. They will change everything by 2021. They don't know how to regulate cryptocurrency at the moment, so they create different laws.

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September 06, 2020, 07:56:16 PM
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They can't totally ban crypto as people will doubt about their digital securities in blockchain. Sooner or later, they will change again their stand in terms of crypto dealings. There are so many Russians here who are into crypto, so I am sure they are also waiting to have good news from their government.
They might not completely ban but they can make every Russian investors life a living hell by shutting down all the local exchanges and then impose heavy tax on cryptocurrency transactions.

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Why not? if they see the crypto will be a threat to their financial stability and could be used by criminals, can hide their wealth and not pay tax, then a country like the government of Russia can issue it. And I really doubt that under Putin, they will suddenly change their stance. It's authoritarian, and most countries with this kind of government wanted to get control of everything.
These are the excuses any government who is planning to ban anything will come up with. If you regulate cryptocurrency then no one will hide their wealth rather everyone will be transparent with their transaction and pay the taxes according to the profit they make just like the stock market.
When it comes to authoritarian government which country is liberal, you cannot name many countries that are free to do anything and every country does have an authoritarian government and they impose things in the name of countering terrorism or any other excuses.
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September 09, 2020, 01:25:09 PM
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Do you guys think this will effect the price of BTCSad

I mean most transactions are under the table and the dark web anyways right, banning it under RU really doesn't mean much unless they have actual physical stores that are accepting payments through BTC.
It will not have an impact at all, so many countries are banning Bitcoin but banning never had an impact in Bitcoin's price, hacking and whales dumping like the recent one, where miners dumped their shares are the causes of Bitcoin drop, but it will help if Russia is more lenient in Cryptocurrency because Russian can trade freely and regulate that will results to legit transactions.

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September 09, 2020, 06:03:07 PM
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Ok, so here it goes,

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MOSCOW, July 31 - RIA Novosti. Vladimir Putin signed a law that will allow transactions with digital financial assets (DFA) from 2021, but will ban cryptocurrencies as a means of payment in Russia.

https://ria.ru/20200731/1575229960.html

The question is why does it take too long for Putin to sign this law, Lol. We all know that they have a hard line stance against crypto, I'm expecting this signing and implementation much earlier.

And who are going to challenge this law? There could be someone inside Russia that is influential in the crypto sphere, but I doubt they will make a U-turn.

I used Google Translate.

Lol! What else you can expect from a hardcode communist country?? Do they have a good reason to allow freedom to their own people?

That was very much expected! The only question was when and now we've got the timeline for the application of the law. Even though Russian Central Bank once said, that it is impossible to ban cryptocurrency but now the government will do it through a stringent law which has provisions of punitive actions!

Expect black market transactions to rise from Russia now!
It is unlikely that now Russia should be classified as a communist country. Although Putin wants to restore the USSR, in practice, he wants to create an empire more than the USSR. Now Russia looks more like a monarchy than a republic, as written in its constitution.
The adopted law on digital assets clearly demonstrates the absence of the power of the people there. This law deprives the people of the right to use cryptocurrency as a means of payment, although in all civilized states this right remains with their citizens.

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Ok, so here it goes,

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MOSCOW, July 31 - RIA Novosti. Vladimir Putin signed a law that will allow transactions with digital financial assets (DFA) from 2021, but will ban cryptocurrencies as a means of payment in Russia.

https://ria.ru/20200731/1575229960.html

The question is why does it take too long for Putin to sign this law, Lol. We all know that they have a hard line stance against crypto, I'm expecting this signing and implementation much earlier.

And who are going to challenge this law? There could be someone inside Russia that is influential in the crypto sphere, but I doubt they will make a U-turn.

I used Google Translate.

Lol! What else you can expect from a hardcode communist country?? Do they have a good reason to allow freedom to their own people?

That was very much expected! The only question was when and now we've got the timeline for the application of the law. Even though Russian Central Bank once said, that it is impossible to ban cryptocurrency but now the government will do it through a stringent law which has provisions of punitive actions!

Expect black market transactions to rise from Russia now!
It is unlikely that now Russia should be classified as a communist country. Although Putin wants to restore the USSR, in practice, he wants to create an empire more than the USSR. Now Russia looks more like a monarchy than a republic, as written in its constitution.
The adopted law on digital assets clearly demonstrates the absence of the power of the people there. This law deprives the people of the right to use cryptocurrency as a means of payment, although in all civilized states this right remains with their citizens.
I am Russian and do not yet understand how this law will work.
Next year we will look at practice.
If we talk about bitcoin, then it is not popular in Russia.
A lot of people don't know how to use it.
 In cryptocurrency communities, payments are made in cryptocurrency.
The black market is highly developed in large cities.
In Russia, the popular currency for payment for the past 30 years has been the dollar. Although it is prohibited by law, most of the sales of cars, apartments, etc. between individuals are paid in dollars. All friends save their savings in dollars and euros. So if bitcoin gains popularity, then there will be no problems.

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September 12, 2020, 11:03:51 PM
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In Russia, the popular currency for payment for the past 30 years has been the dollar. Although it is prohibited by law, most of the sales of cars, apartments, etc. between individuals are paid in dollars. All friends save their savings in dollars and euros. So if bitcoin gains popularity, then there will be no problems.

So since dollar transactions are already forbidden, and yet people in your country are still doing it, if this anti-bitcoin law ever comes to pass, then we can assume people will also turn a blind eye to it. It doesn't matter whether bitcoin needs to gain popularity to overcome this law, you just have the case of a small group of adopters using bitcoin, defying the law vs. a majority of people using dollars, also defying the law.

How lax is the enforcement of the anti-dollar transactions law in Russia? I think there would be public resentment if a lot of the people doing this activity get arrested for it.

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September 13, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
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In Russia, the popular currency for payment for the past 30 years has been the dollar. Although it is prohibited by law, most of the sales of cars, apartments, etc. between individuals are paid in dollars. All friends save their savings in dollars and euros. So if bitcoin gains popularity, then there will be no problems.

So since dollar transactions are already forbidden, and yet people in your country are still doing it, if this anti-bitcoin law ever comes to pass, then we can assume people will also turn a blind eye to it. It doesn't matter whether bitcoin needs to gain popularity to overcome this law, you just have the case of a small group of adopters using bitcoin, defying the law vs. a majority of people using dollars, also defying the law.

How lax is the enforcement of the anti-dollar transactions law in Russia? I think there would be public resentment if a lot of the people doing this activity get arrested for it.
The minimum fine is 1000 rubles (14 dollars), if it is proved that you are engaged in illegal business activities, 75% of the amount will be confiscated (this is very difficult to prove in court). Therefore, I have not heard that any of the individuals were punished. Everyone understands that it is dangerous to keep savings in rubles, they can depreciate at any time.

I do not want to lie, but from memory I saw interesting statistics in which 60-70% of criminal cases on economic crimes fall apart at the stage of investigation or violators receive acquittals in court.

Therefore, the actual situation in Russia is very different from what is written in the news Smiley

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