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September 05, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
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Site profit decreased a little bit, is it the good time to invest now?

It's a good time to invest if the overall investment decreased.

Just-dice keeps popularizing the new "investor's fallacy" Tongue

Any time is equally good or bad for investing. It's just random.
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September 05, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
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Wrong. If overall investment decreases, your piece of the cake gets bigger.
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September 05, 2013, 04:14:32 PM
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Wrong. If overall investment decreases, your piece of the cake gets bigger.

You also share a higher percentage of risk.
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September 05, 2013, 04:49:59 PM
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... that leads to higher profit (statistically)
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September 05, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
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Has just-dice just got extorted for 11.0372 BTC?

No, we don't pay to stop DDoS.

Apparently the 11 BTC transaction predates the demand, so that should be sufficient proof.

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September 05, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
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Has just-dice just got extorted for 11.0372 BTC?

No, we don't pay to stop DDoS.

Apparently the 11 BTC transaction predates the demand, so that should be sufficient proof.

OK, thanks for replying, so it appears that he withdrew his own BTC to that address to make it look like you paid him.
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September 05, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
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... that leads to higher profit (statistically)

Unless people gamble less ...
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September 06, 2013, 04:17:05 AM
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I finally got a chance to look into this.  At first it puzzled me.  Who sends so many coins to my 'online storage' over and over again?  Mostly the only two wallets that send coins there are the JD cold wallet (which is a single address) and the JD hot wallet.

1JzHCtJTG4LoPP2ks7mzPw5VwSmMpVvHpL isn't in the JD hot wallet:

Code:
$ bitcoind validateaddress 1JzHCtJTG4LoPP2ks7mzPw5VwSmMpVvHpL
{
    "isvalid" : true,
    "address" : "1JzHCtJTG4LoPP2ks7mzPw5VwSmMpVvHpL",
    "ismine" : false
}

Then it struck me.  JD accepts deposits to inputs.io.  When the inputs.io account gets "too big", I send the whole BTC part of the balance to either the hot wallet or the online storage, depending on how much is in the hot wallet.

That's what you're seeing here.  1JzHCtJTG4LoPP2ks7mzPw5VwSmMpVvHpL is an address in the inputs.io hot wallet, not JD.

So I figure all you've discovered is that both JD and the DDoS-er have used inputs.io...

Here's a screenshot of the inputs.io 'details' popup for the first transaction you link to - you can see the txid and amount match:



I guess the next step, should you want to pursue this, would be to contact inputs.io and see if they're interested in tracking this further.

Edit: as for the payments from the hot wallet to that address, they were all made by the same player.  He had the unusual play pattern of depositing to the site using inputs.io, and very soon after winning, would withdraw, always to the same address.  It turns out that address was his inputs.io deposit address.

None of this connects the player with the DDoS address of course.  inputs.io is a shared wallet.  Coins I send to it go into a big pool, and will be given to a random person in the future when they withdraw.  All we can conclude from this is that Just-Dice, the Just-Dice player, and the DDoS guy all use inputs.io.

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September 06, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
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Congratz on learning the new excel (2013?). Nice charts, but still we missed those 250 betting whales back then....

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September 06, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
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Congratz on learning the new excel (2013?). Nice charts, but still we missed those 250 betting whales back then....

Yes, I did not analyze daily volatility as Doog does that this is looking at approximate investing only and the effect of USD BTC price, different imo.
Anyway , JD is still a premier solution for investing coins with high liquidity. See BTC-DICE? They are down now.  Cool

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September 07, 2013, 04:36:08 AM
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http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/177353

This userscript will remove the betting buttons and personal gambling stats. so in the end you only see information that could be relevant to investors.



optionally instead of loading the userscript you could create a bookmark and use that, with the following contents:

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javascript:$('.bets, .wagered, .myprofit, .container, .button_group, fieldset').hide();$('#all').hide();$('#chat').show()

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September 07, 2013, 05:58:13 AM
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Congratz on learning the new excel (2013?). Nice charts, but still we missed those 250 betting whales back then....

Yes, I did not analyze daily volatility as Doog does that this is looking at approximate investing only and the effect of USD BTC price, different imo.
Anyway , JD is still a premier solution for investing coins with high liquidity. See BTC-DICE? They are down now.  Cool

Yes, but what happened to btc-dice.com? The translation i get from the home page is :

"Notice: website at 17:41 on September 4 was invaded, all site data and wallets data security, you need time to sort and reprocess the seed encryption algorithm.

Websites need to be modified in many places, the progress of technology to carry out a little slow, the site also need to push on the line day after time, please be patient.

(There are questions please email: btcdice2013@gmail.com or btc-dice@qq.com)"
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September 07, 2013, 09:36:50 AM
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how can i get the daily data of jd,such as the bets, the wagered?

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September 07, 2013, 12:45:24 PM
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     1.26% or something was my profit, pulled my coins (about 1 week). Nice project and good work doog. I'll be keeping an eye on this for another investment, but currently I want to get out of BTC, i think coins are groing to take a brief hit.
   

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September 07, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
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how can i get the daily data of jd,such as the bets, the wagered?

there's links in the Stats tab to total wagered per day & biggest bets, wins, and losses, for other data ask doog

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September 07, 2013, 02:26:19 PM
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from 2013 08 12 it's a 10% house fee, posted in both threads a week before

10% fee on withdrawals? or what is it?
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September 07, 2013, 02:30:58 PM
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      They gotta make a living some how :p
   

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September 07, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
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      They gotta make a living some how :p
   

Yea, it's around 193 btc, 25 100 USD at the moment a month for dooglus based on 14 day avg wagered and USD/BTC at 130 usd if one's only conting his housecut of 10% of the profit.
He probably also has 3000+ btc or so investments in the bankroll, then thats another 103 btc, 13 400 USD a month, so all in all Dooglus is probably at an expected profit of around 296 btc/38 500 USD a month now, pretty decent i would say....

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      They gotta make a living some how :p
   

Comic Sans MS... Nooo.... (I really hate that font... and whoever teacher in my school uses it a powerpoint)

doog: we've crossed the 1000kBTC bet... any plan on the UI update and logo and advertising....... The last update was like decades ago - - (did it even...)

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September 08, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
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