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November 22, 2017, 09:12:13 AM
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Thank you, you are the only one that try to explain your point of view and ask serious question.
Thekool1s is a stupid guy. He posted a picture and I stopped reading from that point.
theultralite bla bla bla bla make your own forum...who forced him to read my message?
Being a member of this forum we can participate in conversations and state our own opinions. Just like you did in your OP. Now the question is will people like it or not? But that depends on the discretion of the person commenting and the not the person reading. If someone has a view respect that and you may have your own view but that does not mean that others will agree with you.

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Probably most of you don't fully understand what I mean because a few months ago I was like you. I Never had thought that I could be involved in this thread. I am a legendary member tagged from Lauda that never had any discussion, never sell or bought account, never scam people.
I highly doubt this. Most of the threads in this section of the forum are made by butthurt signature spammers, scammers and shady people trying to run potential scams. Also account sellers and potential criminals. If none of that happened to you then why are you here?


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Now I feel disgusted, I feel the sensation of something deeply unfair. I feel I have no way to defend myself because the only things you can do is write to DT1 members.
So I thought about asking to every bounty manager to put ~Lauda. It could be an alternative way of defend against Lauda.
Thats the decision of the bounty manager. Its their choice and not something you can enforce upon people.
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I did a lot of research and asked to a lot of user tagged by Lauda.

I hate scammers and users that have multi accounts too, but here we are beyond the limit: a member tagged because Lauda hates bitcoincash, another member tagged for the intention to do something and not for something really proven.

If tomorrow Lauda decides to tag someone because she doesn't like the nickname, you don't really have a procedure to recover your trust status because "trust is not moderated"
You are getting it wrong. At one time when I was new to the forum and was doing signature campaigns for the first then I also had this idea that Lauda was neg tagging everyone he thinks he can. It gradually turned out that this was not the case and that I was also wrong. It seems that without the DT2 members this forum would be a shitload of scammers.

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Remember that Lauda isn't Mother Teresa or a charity organization. She told that she spent a lot of her time doing this for free but if you think how is important reputation I see a conflic of interest (I see an avatar selling something).

I asked to a lot of moderators about some case and all of them told me that they didn't tagged those people but they aren't surprise that Lauda did.

I discovered that Lauda was removed from staff member because she did an extortion/blackmail  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761133.20

Probably the exclusion from the staff member cause her to be angry with the entire world. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1761133.20

This is the post where she is red tagging anyone that supports Bitcoin Cash. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420291.0

And this is the incredible thread. I can't believe:Lauda, Sold bitcointalk accounts, Giving neg for others for same reason. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410318.0

To be honest I think that 99% of people tagged by Lauda deserve that negative trust, the problem is if you are in that 1%.

I prefer an unpunished guilty rather than an innocent punishment and Lauda doesn't act in this direction.

My two cents.

This proves nothing but that you are butthurt and are willing to throw everything that has happened in this section at people whose work you dont know.
If you really have something to prove that you are innocent then put in front of the public and come out with your original account. If they are solid then steps will be taken.

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November 22, 2017, 10:09:33 AM
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You do realise that just because I was to put ~Lauda it won't change your trust rating. It would just make it not visible to me. Even if all the managers did this, you would still be negged...

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November 22, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
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~snip~

Your claims are weak.
If not, then you shouldn't have posted from a new account.
It could be more wise if you had posted from the main account which has been neg trusted.
We all are posting in this thread on the basis what we can see and understand. If you had posted from the main account then we could be able to see why you received neg trust.

Now regarding the judgement,
You are asking to create another system to judge DT members decision, as DT member's system has been created to judge all the forum members activities.
If you are sure enough that the neg trust you have received is very unfair, then you can post at investigation board for a solution and if there is no solution coming out then you can contact Theymos to solve the issue. I do not know if this process will work or not and how Theymos will react on the issue.

As you have said that Lauda's 99% decision was correct and 1% is questionable.
I only want to say in this matter, that we are humans and humans make mistakes.
I believe in second chance. so if you think you fall in that 1% and want a second chance then proof it to the DT 1 & 2 members.
I also believe that DT members also believes in second chance and they are the ones who can only help you on your issue. Of course it all depends on how serious is your crime.
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November 22, 2017, 11:56:13 PM
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Well ladies and gentlemans, I really do not promote BCH or whatever, you can see it in my history, I am more XRP fanboy. But I personally believe that BCH is better choice for several reasons.

And I got negative trust, for just what I think: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg25045924#msg25045924  Roll Eyes Not that I care much about this trust thing (I even do not know what it for?), but:

- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
- Why not ...

I think Lauda has just personal big issues against BCH, which most BTC purist will ignore and promote, but well, wake up guys. You will not stop or change people mind by putting "trust" to minus, because in reality trust has no value in this form where every second is a bot.

Stop this muppet show, do not insult / disrespect others believe.
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November 23, 2017, 02:58:30 AM
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But I personally believe that BCH is better choice for several reasons.
Have you dumped all your bitcoin?
Have you margin traded for BCH?
Have you converted all your FIAT into BCH? (save living expenses)

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November 23, 2017, 08:36:14 AM
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Well ladies and gentlemans, I really do not promote BCH or whatever, you can see it in my history, I am more XRP fanboy. But I personally believe that BCH is better choice for several reasons.

And I got negative trust, for just what I think: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg25045924#msg25045924  Roll Eyes Not that I care much about this trust thing (I even do not know what it for?), but:

- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
- Why not ...
Honestly speaking the new altcoin BCH has simply "copied" everything from BTC and the so-called devs have been promoting it to the "real bitcoin". The crypto world is not happy about it neither do they seem legit. On the other hand there have been other altcoins with legit devs and real code behind their blockchains. To me and to most people here BCH is a pump and dump and I am sure it will continue like that.


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I think Lauda has just personal big issues against BCH, which most BTC purist will ignore and promote, but well, wake up guys. You will not stop or change people mind by putting "trust" to minus, because in reality trust has no value in this form where every second is a bot.

Stop this muppet show, do not insult / disrespect others believe.
It not about personal issues but about making the community aware of the issues behind something. In this forum there is a shitload of scammers spammers and shitposters shilling away like anything at any and every shitcoin they can find. Let it be any shitcoin airdrop or any shitcoin bounty.
Thanks to DT members shitcoins like DeepOnion and BCH are getting purged soon.

You are free to believe what you want - but if you are promoting some scam or potential scam then get ready to face the red paint Or like I have often said - make you own forum and preach about Lauda and DT members there at your own will.

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November 23, 2017, 11:10:39 AM
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Well ladies and gentlemans, I really do not promote BCH or whatever, you can see it in my history, I am more XRP fanboy. But I personally believe that BCH is better choice for several reasons.

And I got negative trust, for just what I think: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg25045924#msg25045924  Roll Eyes Not that I care much about this trust thing (I even do not know what it for?), but:

- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
- Why not ...
Honestly speaking the new altcoin BCH has simply "copied" everything from BTC and the so-called devs have been promoting it to the "real bitcoin". The crypto world is not happy about it neither do they seem legit. On the other hand there have been other altcoins with legit devs and real code behind their blockchains. To me and to most people here BCH is a pump and dump and I am sure it will continue like that.


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I think Lauda has just personal big issues against BCH, which most BTC purist will ignore and promote, but well, wake up guys. You will not stop or change people mind by putting "trust" to minus, because in reality trust has no value in this form where every second is a bot.

Stop this muppet show, do not insult / disrespect others believe.
It not about personal issues but about making the community aware of the issues behind something. In this forum there is a shitload of scammers spammers and shitposters shilling away like anything at any and every shitcoin they can find. Let it be any shitcoin airdrop or any shitcoin bounty.
Thanks to DT members shitcoins like DeepOnion and BCH are getting purged soon.

You are free to believe what you want - but if you are promoting some scam or potential scam then get ready to face the red paint Or like I have often said - make you own forum and preach about Lauda and DT members there at your own will.

Bitcoin as-well considered as a scam, but this is not the topic about BTC vs rest of the world.

As you wrote "promoting", I did not promote, I explained that every one who holds BTC received equivalent amount of BCH, no scam here, it just community decision with what solution to go. If you long term HODLER than you safe in whatever decision, will be made. If someone writes it scam, I can write otherwise. If BTC would start addressing problems it have, than my opnion would be in favor of it. If both will eventually evolve and find their markets, fine by me. But than it means that Lauda has very big personal issues, and everyone who was shouting "scam", well I guess nothing will be left just to shout same things, for just to be stubborn.

And yes I will not make new forum, I will do this job here.

And if I face red trust, just for something that does not proved as scam, than this person will face red trust from as shill on opposite side, fair game.

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November 23, 2017, 06:04:58 PM
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- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
Completely different scenario.
Ethereum isn't the issue if a scammy ICO appears, the ICO its self is. People that shill said ICO will get negative trust. Just like people that try to mislead the vulnerable into thinking that something other than Bitcoin is Bitcoin deserve negative trust.

- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
Because no one is trying to mislead anyone and claim otherwise. You, when you say that BCH is Bitcoin, are.
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November 23, 2017, 06:20:30 PM
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But watching the OP and seeing the complete "rant" they are trying to boast over Lauda is the next level of "shamelessness" when they say that they should be forgiven for buying/selling of accounts. This way, people may ask back to be unbanned if they are caught copy-pasting, right? You're fighting a fight you will never win because you're wrong at your place. Lauda is one of the best persons here (based on my personal experience) who did everything in the interests of forum to keep it beautiful, but people like you are the ones who don't just ruin it for yourself but others too. Buying/selling of accounts creates too much mess because you really don't know the intention of buyer (if they want to scam by asking for a loan or putting up a scam ico or whatsoever)/seller (who may sell you an already negged/hacked account).

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November 23, 2017, 09:05:36 PM
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- Why not give Ethereum believers negative trust, because it is a way to create a scam ICOs
Completely different scenario.
Ethereum isn't the issue if a scammy ICO appears, the ICO its self is. People that shill said ICO will get negative trust. Just like people that try to mislead the vulnerable into thinking that something other than Bitcoin is Bitcoin deserve negative trust.

- Why not XRP believers give negative trust, because it is "centralised", "bank owned" asset
Because no one is trying to mislead anyone and claim otherwise. You, when you say that BCH is Bitcoin, are.

Well, if you drag something out of context, than you can blame me, like I can drag quote from your post: "BCH is Bitcoin"; and say that you promote. If you read what I wrote, you will see that I do not promote, but have my stand point. So, do not twist.
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