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Author Topic: [ANN][ICO] Sphere - Decentralized Social Networking >200,000 users  (Read 46899 times)
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April 13, 2018, 01:33:00 AM
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lol @ this coin definitely a shit dead coin.. where's this "social network".. sigh another one bits the dust and takes peoples money.
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April 13, 2018, 03:36:58 AM
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One week after Sphere ICO ended. Can you guess what Exchange #SAT token will be listed first? LOL
IDEX, Etherdelta and other decentralized exchanges
or Kucoin, Binance, CoinEx and other Centralized exchanges?


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April 13, 2018, 11:40:11 AM
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One week after Sphere ICO ended. Can you guess what Exchange #SAT token will be listed first? LOL
IDEX, Etherdelta and other decentralized exchanges
or Kucoin, Binance, CoinEx and other Centralized exchanges?

That is quite easy to get listed on EtherDelta or IDEx but to be listed on Binance or Kucoin, that is different.
At this time, We can help #SAT to be listed on CoinEx by voting here https://www.coinex.com/vote/promotion?project=9&channel=twitter
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April 13, 2018, 01:12:44 PM
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This is my review of Sphere Social. Which is at https://sphere.social

Summary: Token. Weak ethic. NOT decentralized.

The good:

• Token can be exchange for services within Sphere Social (SS). In the unlikely event that it’s successful. I do not trust and will not invest in SS though.

The bad:

• Sphere Social (SS) is NOT really fully decentralized. They try to fool you into believing that they are decentralized. To do so they use the popular word “decentralized” all over their whitepaper. In fact SS is mostly CENTRALIZED. They claim that they are decentralized because they offer reward tokens. Which they call Social Activity Tokens (SAT). Tokens are not to confuse with a full decentralized Social Network. Sorry but those are two different things. Read on for other red flags. In other words, SS are misleading and deceiving you. This shows they have a weak ethic. When most users figure this out the value of their token will crash and users will leave. To the benefit of really decentralized Social Network. Such as https://DiasporaFoundation.org or https://Minds.com


• NOT distributed. And NOT federated. Read more about the definition of distributed and federated networks at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_social_network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_(information_technology)

• Sphere tried to mislead you and deceive you into beleiving that blockchain and distributed storage are the same thing. Extract from Sphere whitepaper v1.7.4 on page 19: “a decentralized social media platform that stores multimedia and other data on a secured blockchain rather than on traditional servers.” Source at https://sphere.social/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Sphere_Whitepaper_v1.7.4.pdf

Their claim is unethical because by definition a “blockchain” is a cryptographically secured ledger that can be permissionless and decentralized. A blockchain is NOT to confuse with a distributed storage of social multimedia and other data. In Sphere's claim above, notice that they tried to mislead you and deceive you into believing that "blockchain" and "distributed storage" are the same thing. They are not.

The above is one of the many unethical claims in the Sphere whitepaper. Did you spot the other unethical claims?

An ethical claim would be: “Sphere stores multimedia and other data on a secured decentralized storage rather than on traditional secured centralized storage. And store its SAT tokens in on a secured blockchain.” Assuming that those are their real intentions.

Maybe the Sphere founders are not familiar with the most widely recognized definition of blockchain? For investors, buyers, and users interested to not getting scam by unethical abuse of words such as “blockchain”, “decentralized”, “cryptocurrency”, “token”, a good start is to educate yourself. For example Corbett Report did an informative video about the nuances in the jargon. Very good to watch. They are good and bad crypto currencies. Educate yourself to not get scam by the bad ones. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhUn7nh33Q

• Potentially NOT secure. Because the code is not available publicly. So it can not be review by the public. In other words, there is a risk of abuse. The software code is NOT open source. So weak security. And high risk of abuse by people with immature behaviors. Compare to https://DiasporaFoundation.org or https://Minds.com code which are open source and can be review by all.

• Owned by the for-profit corporation Sphere Network LTD. Which was recently created on 13 September 2017. With correspondence address at Otonomos (Uk) Ltd, 1 Fore Street, London, United Kingdom, EC2Y 9DT.

According to legal records, this for-profit corporation is controlled by only two people. They are Mr Andrew Khong and Mr Tuong Pham. 25 to 50% each. Both are residents of the USA. Source at https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10961486

SS advertised that you are 100% in control of your content. That's false. As stated above, only two people have full controls of all your SS content, including censorship. Others have limited and partial decision-making control over your content.

This means that SS is primarily Money-Servant. Not People-Servant. In other words, Sphere is not owned by a not-for-profit community. Usually a corporation first priority is to hoard money. Not serve you and protect your privacy.

• Bad choice of name. Because there is already a Sphere Social network. That's gonna create confusion. The other network was founded in 2008 http://www.the-sphere.com

Wiki page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sphere_(social_network)

• Their primary front-end website at https://sphere.social seems to be partly powered by Wordpress. As you know SS back-end software is NOT open source. But SS use the open source project Wordpress for their primary front-end website. And do NOT give credit to the Wordpress community. SS's behaviors are awkward and self-centered.

• Not friendly with United States and Singapore citizens. If you try to register they greet you with a email asking you to confirm that you’re not a citizen from those countries. Source at https://www.minds.com/media/803754670359556096
So the two owners of SS are citizens of USA, but they do not welcome other citizens of USA to use SS. That is really suspicious.

• Weak ethic. Because they tried to fool their user into believing that they are decentralized. This is false. They are primarily centralized.


How to not get scam?

A good start is to educate yourself. For example Corbett Report did an informative video about the nuances in the jargon. Such as blockchain, cryptocurrencies, and decentralize. Very good to watch. They are good and bad crypto currencies. Educate yourself to not get scam by the bad ones. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhUn7nh33Q


I wrote my review as a volunteer. Which was not paid by Minds, Diaspora, or anyone.

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Are your tired of censorship with Facebook, YouTube, Twitter? You might be interested in the censorship-free and open source Minds at https://www.minds.com/register;referrer=Francewhoa

can someone speak more on minds.com or show where a thread for it is I can not find it talked about on bitcointalk except for here
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April 13, 2018, 01:18:04 PM
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• Sphere Social (SS) is NOT really fully decentralized.

Sphere MOD written about this on their telegram group. Sphere platform will be decentralized at future.
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April 13, 2018, 08:38:35 PM
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When I read ‘bout this project, I’m sure this is a potential project whether this project provides for the bounty hunter? I’m looking for not finding rules for bounty
ICO is over and obviously the bounty too.

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April 14, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
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There is only 5 days left for this ICO. The team really should be in this thread promoting and answering questions. But maybe it will be better for us investors if they dont. Less money in should mean more will be burnt, so out portions will be a larger chunk right?
less money in, means less fund for development and marketing, gone are the days where you make your token scars to increase value now we need a lot of investors to hold and trade a token to create volume in an exchange.

Less money in, more pressure on the team to make more out of less. If you are overfunded you can also become lazy and negligent. It's not a question that you can easily answer in terms of right or wrong. There is certainly something like a minimum amount to make this happen, but many projects collect too much these days. Would you disagree?

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April 14, 2018, 01:52:37 PM
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Any update about the current activity of Sphere?When I visit their official website, only you can see is "Token sale is ended".  Can anyone provide a legit and useful link about the last movement of this, thank in advance! Best of luck team Sphere, hoping anything is doing well and smooth.

We apologize, but we aren't sure what you mean by this. How can we help?

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April 14, 2018, 01:56:58 PM
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Can’t wait for the start of ICO. So interesting ideas coming from your team! Wink


The ICO is over.

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April 14, 2018, 06:25:59 PM
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When will our blog bounties be added to our sphere ( sat ) totals in our sphere wallet ?

I just read back a page or two and found the answer...

They are doing manual payouts and it may take some time ..

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April 14, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
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When will our blog bounties be added to our sphere ( sat ) totals in our sphere wallet ?

I just read back a page or two and found the answer...

They are doing manual payouts and it may take some time ..
Yeah, it might take up a while until the end of April.

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April 14, 2018, 08:54:03 PM
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Delisting from KuCoin (April 26 10:00 UTC)
https://coindar.org/en/event/spherepay-say-delisting-from-kucoin-7818
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April 15, 2018, 01:01:15 AM
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Now that the ICO is finish what would be the next step for the team and please don`t say that your going into a vacation, hope your priority is development rather than getting listed on an exchange.

Having an exchange isn't that bad. If someone finds out about Sphere and wants to get some tokens their should be a way to exchange them.

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April 15, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
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Delisting from KuCoin Exchange 24 hour trade volume on Kucoin: $27,197,348

Delisting with 27 million $ volume per day?
What is the reason?
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Delisting from KuCoin Exchange 24 hour trade volume on Kucoin: $27,197,348

Delisting with 27 million $ volume per day?
What is the reason?

Lol, It was a different token I guess! Sphere is not yet in Kucoin if I'm not mistaken. Smiley
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Delisting from KuCoin Exchange 24 hour trade volume on Kucoin: $27,197,348

Delisting with 27 million $ volume per day?
What is the reason?

You are just talking for no reason. Let's assume you are seriously interested in Sphere, then you would have noticed that Sphere isn't on there. Why are you coming here to spread the news that are actually wrong?

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April 15, 2018, 06:43:57 PM
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Delisting from KuCoin Exchange 24 hour trade volume on Kucoin: $27,197,348

Delisting with 27 million $ volume per day?
What is the reason?

wrong news i think, ico is over but not the token distribution nor the exchange listing as far as i know?

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April 16, 2018, 02:37:25 AM
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Delisting from KuCoin Exchange 24 hour trade volume on Kucoin: $27,197,348

Delisting with 27 million $ volume per day?
What is the reason?

wrong news i think, ico is over but not the token distribution nor the exchange listing as far as i know?

I guess it will follow soon although there is a lot of things going on right now in the exchange businesses. Regulatory issues etc.
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April 16, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
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someone ask few days ago how many sat tokens will be burn?
still no answer?
one week after ico and no news about how many tokens will be distributed?
20%? 30%? 50%?
how many?
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April 16, 2018, 12:11:09 PM
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someone ask few days ago how many sat tokens will be burn?
still no answer?
one week after ico and no news about how many tokens will be distributed?
20%? 30%? 50%?
how many?

We won't have a concrete number until we're done distributing tokens. The amount of tokens we burn depends on how many tokens will be distributed. Any other number would be just a general guess.

This is because many users wish to hold their tokens instead of withdrawing, so that could cut the distribution numbers down considerably.

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