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April 17, 2018, 03:36:05 PM
Last edit: April 18, 2018, 01:11:11 AM by frodocooper
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I agree. There is something brewing out there. There have been some interesting events already, but a game changer is bound to happen.

Big names and big experience are coming to the mining realm and upsetting this psuedo Monopoly Bitmain has been enjoying.



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April 17, 2018, 03:47:21 PM
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Is anyone having issues with the T1's running way hotter than the S9's? Any input? Thanks.

No mine run cool on efficiency setting.

Have you tried the 4-15 firmware update?

it has 3 speeds for settings and fans.

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April 17, 2018, 03:55:37 PM
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Is anyone having issues with the T1's running way hotter than the S9's? Any input? Thanks.

No mine run cool on efficiency setting.

Have you tried the 4-15 firmware update?

it has 3 speeds for settings and fans.

Okay...I will give it a try. What settings have you kept for the fan...high medium or low? Are you getting close to 16T for the efficiency setting? Thanks.
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April 17, 2018, 04:03:59 PM
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90.11W/TH on my test on efficiency settings. This is on 240v/MyRig PSU, on the beta firmware. Pretty good!

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April 17, 2018, 06:06:58 PM
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I don't get these HalongMining haters:

1) We have one of the world biggest chip manufacturers (Samsung) entering the miners race
2) 100% legal by Innosilicon confirming they are in partnership with Halong
3) Confirmed lowest W/GH on the market after the firmware update
4) Shipping date respected from Halong even for series 0 equipment
5) Price of  Bitmain gear drown down significantly because of healthy competition
6) Finally a realistic chance to break evil monopoly on mining gear

Instead of jumping up and down Halong did all this in a few months, I see constant nagging and whining and bad energy. What more do you want?
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April 17, 2018, 06:33:14 PM
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I don't get these HalongMining haters:

1) We have one of the world biggest chip manufacturers (Samsung) entering the miners race
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Instead of jumping up and down Halong did all this in a few months, I see constant nagging and whining and bad energy. What more do you want?
This is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence) , mostly related to all the propaganda about ASICboost in the past. And now even you increase the blowback but further spreading rumors about Samsung entering coin mining market, when they were just a contract foundry for a fab-less design boutique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_by_the_sword,_die_by_the_sword
 
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/you_can%27t_make_an_omelette_without_breaking_eggs

Some people really went into alternate, schizoid mental state trying to comprehend the ASICboost propaganda and all the nonsensical related calculations of supposed profitability or supposed lack of profitability.

With all the superstitious thinking in the coin mining business all I can do is post the picture of a shrine to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Barbara , patron saint of miners.



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April 17, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
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I don't get these HalongMining haters:

1) We have one of the world biggest chip manufacturers (Samsung) entering the miners race
2) 100% legal by Innosilicon confirming they are in partnership with Halong
3) Confirmed lowest W/GH on the market after the firmware update
4) Shipping date respected from Halong even for series 0 equipment
5) Price of  Bitmain gear drown down significantly because of healthy competition
6) Finally a realistic chance to break evil monopoly on mining gear

Instead of jumping up and down Halong did all this in a few months, I see constant nagging and whining and bad energy. What more do you want?
Samsung has 'been in the miner chips' biz for several years - not new. They made the 14nm chips for BW.com. What is new is they're now taking more clients since TSMC can't supply all needed.

What 'we' want is the the miners to work on ALL pools - not just ones that have their code tweaked to accept Little Dragon's AB design that Halong is using. Nothing at all was said about this until 3 months after sales started. Folks purchased them under the impression they would work on ALL pools - not just a very select few.

Then there is Halong and Little Dragon Technology LLC's (holder of the AB patent) intense secrecy as to who actually owns/runs them. Hell they won't even give a City/Provence/street address for contact. All they give is their Lawyers:
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April 17, 2018, 06:50:58 PM
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What 'we' want is the the miners to work on ALL pools - not just ones that have their code tweaked to accept Little Dragon's AB design that Halong is using. Nothing at all was said about this until 3 months after sales started. Folks purchased them under the impression they would work on ALL pools - not just a very select few.
The real question is: what is preventing pools from adding the support for ASICboost? The official Core Bitcoin client always accepted blocks that were mined with boosting. The recent change was just to remove warning about unexpected forks or version numbers or some such. The required code change is pretty much trivial.

Personally, I see quite a few people felling ashamed that they gotten themselves drawn into the ASICboot propaganda and counter-propaganda. This just increases the inertia of the adoption of it.

Certainly, on the pool side the patents don't apply.

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Then there is Halong and Little Dragon Technology LLC's (holder of the AB patent) intense secrecy as to who actually owns/runs them. Hell they won't even give a City/Provence/street address for contact. All they give is their Lawyers:

More or less standard operating procedure when developing a product that could be subject to contested patent. It appears that your familiarity with patent system is only at the head-end: how to get a patent and hang it on the wall. You don't appear to show any familiarity with the ass-end: how to extract the royalties from unwilling competitor and how to defend yourself against litigation trying to turn your precious framed certificate into a roll of toilet paper.

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April 17, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
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So let me get this straight....you are comparing an underclocked dragonmint against a full speed s9. Seems like a flawed test from the get go. I can probably go find 100 machines in my DC right now that will match that efficiency if i cherry pick them, and probably a lot more if I used a firmware that allowed me to underclock.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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April 17, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
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I don't get these HalongMining haters:

1) We have one of the world biggest chip manufacturers (Samsung) entering the miners race - They are not new to chip making for this space.
2) 100% legal by Innosilicon confirming they are in partnership with Halong - An email saying they are partnering with them is far from legally binding information about the company itself.
3) Confirmed lowest W/GH on the market after the firmware update - So far everyone showing they hit efficiency targets are using econo mode. At the advertised hash rate it still isnt getting the job done.
4) Shipping date respected from Halong even for series 0 equipment - They were late with some shipping, but not enough to complain about.
5) Price of  Bitmain gear drown down significantly because of healthy competition - Price of bitmain gear is based on ROI, not the competition.
6) Finally a realistic chance to break evil monopoly on mining gear - How is Halong magically breaking this so called monopoly when you can buy miners from Avalon, Ebang, Bitfury, BW, and others already? Halong is one of many.

Instead of jumping up and down Halong did all this in a few months, I see constant nagging and whining and bad energy. What more do you want?

You choose to see what you want to see.

1. The lack of disclosure on the legality of the company is still a thing.
2. The fact that their miners are a rip off of bitmains design and Innos controllers shows they are not all that innovative.
3. The fact that you can literally only mine to 2 BITCOIN only pools was never disclosed. There are other coins a sha256 miner should be able to mine, but the fact that this miner was restricted to bitcoin only was not revealed until MONTHS after presale.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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April 17, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
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Then there is Halong and Little Dragon Technology LLC's (holder of the AB patent) intense secrecy as to who actually owns/runs them. Hell they won't even give a City/Provence/street address for contact.\

There is an address that is accessible through public means! I hinted at it nearly a week ago in this thread. It doesn't give much information aside from potential upcoming models/names. The prominent figures are Yoshi and Drak, and probably other investors. Innosilicon confirmed their partnership with Halong. That, along with their ongoing deliveries, is legitimate enough for me. While I can see the perspective of people limited on where they can mine, I'm hopeful more pools adopt support for AB.

I'm personally a pretty happy customer so far with my experience with Halong. I'm eager to see what their next moves are, with regards to general releases and next iterations of hardware (and firmware!)

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April 17, 2018, 08:02:48 PM
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Is anyone having issues with the T1's running way hotter than the S9's? Any input? Thanks.

No mine run cool on efficiency setting.

Have you tried the 4-15 firmware update?

it has 3 speeds for settings and fans.

Where did you get a link/download for a new firmware?
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April 17, 2018, 08:35:23 PM
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Is anyone having issues with the T1's running way hotter than the S9's? Any input? Thanks.

No mine run cool on efficiency setting.

Have you tried the 4-15 firmware update?

it has 3 speeds for settings and fans.

Where did you get a link/download for a new firmware?

this is the 4-15 firmware

https://download.halongmining.com/testing/t1_20180415_075807.swu

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April 17, 2018, 08:37:38 PM
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Is anyone having issues with the T1's running way hotter than the S9's? Any input? Thanks.
They're designed to run at 70-75 degrees. What's yours running at?

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April 17, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
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Thank you!



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One of my five prefers the mid speed setting. The other four are on low speed



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April 18, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
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One of my five prefers the mid speed setting. The other four are on low speed
Note there's a bug in that testing firmware whereby values are stored after an efficient run are then used in balance mode altering where balanced mode ends up. There should be a new testing firmware out soon which squeezes a tiny bit more efficiency out. I'll post a link when it's available. The efficient mode will drop power usage further but sacrifice hashrate a bit too as it tries to find the optimum efficiency point.

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April 18, 2018, 11:02:17 AM
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Latest firmware:

https://download.halongmining.com/testing/t1_20180418_054846.swu

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April 18, 2018, 02:41:13 PM
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These miners have surprisingly exact same design and exact same technical specifications as the Dragonmint altcoin miners.  Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3345156.0

Innosilicon equals Halong Mining.

Ref.,
in some car brands and models, including the VW Up that I have,
VW Up, Seat Mii, Skoda Citigo. Three different car brands,
but this is the exact same vehicle.

Different brand name, but the product is same.

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These miners have surprisingly exact same design and exact same technical specifications as the Dragonmint altcoin miners.  Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3345156.0

Innosilicon equals Halong Mining.

Ref.,
in some car brands and models, including the VW Up that I have,
VW Up, Seat Mii, Skoda Citigo. Three different car brands,
but this is the exact same vehicle.

Different brand name, but the product is same.


I was about to post the same; these newly released Blake miners have the exact same specs as the Halong counterparts.  Never mind the fact that they look the exactly the same, too.

At this point I wonder if Inno is going to spin off their crypto business.  They build other electronic devices as well, perhaps this is a move to "realign" both brands.

I shot them an email to pick their brain, we'll see if they respond!
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