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June 30, 2013, 12:15:49 PM
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Please use the title formatting described when posting new links here. Adapt if needed, use your own judgement. Please always include date and source.

Maybe someone can sticky this, I don't think people read the posting guidelines...

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June 30, 2013, 03:23:07 PM
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Please use the title formatting described when posting new links here. Adapt if needed, use your own judgement. Please always include date and source.

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June 30, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
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Please use the title formatting described when posting new links here. Adapt if needed, use your own judgement. Please always include date and source.

Maybe someone can sticky this, I don't think people read the posting guidelines...

The suggested format shouldn't have a hyphen between DATE and SITE.

i.e., should be:

YYYY-MM-DD SITE - HEADLINE

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  2013-06-30 Forbes.com - Awesome Bitcoin Article


And for those wondering why [having date as YYYY-MM-DD] is a big deal, ... if the posts are formatted this way, then a link can be used to see new articles sorted chronologically:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=77.0;sort=first_post;desc


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June 30, 2013, 10:28:04 PM
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Please use the title formatting described when posting new links here. Adapt if needed, use your own judgement. Please always include date and source.

Maybe someone can sticky this, I don't think people read the posting guidelines...

The suggested format shouldn't have a hyphen between DATE and SITE.

i.e., should be:

YYYY-MM-DD SITE - HEADLINE

example
  2013-06-30 Forbes.com Awesome Bitcoin Article


And for those wondering why this is a big deal, ... if the posts are formatted this way, then a link can be used to see new articles sorted chronologically:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=77.0;sort=first_post;desc

Posts need not be formatted that way for said link to work.
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July 06, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
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People don't read the sticky. Instead, you should force people to read the guideline when they are about to post. Annoying yes, but I hate having to chase around a handful of people who don't care about the date format and don't fix it.

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July 06, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
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People don't read the sticky. Instead, you should force people to read the guideline when they are about to post. Annoying yes, but I hate having to chase around a handful of people who don't care about the date format and don't fix it.
Why are you a moderator in this area yet?
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July 11, 2013, 07:38:37 PM
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Why are you a moderator in this area yet?

I am no mod.

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July 11, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
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Why are you a moderator in this area yet?

I am no mod.
I meant aren't.
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July 15, 2013, 12:46:25 AM
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I am now a mod, but I have no way to force people to read the guideline.

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July 17, 2013, 09:34:38 AM
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I am now a mod, but I have no way to force people to read the guideline.

Thanks god you have no way to force people to do anything.

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July 19, 2013, 09:52:51 PM
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I am now a mod, but I have no way to force people to read the guideline.

Thanks god you have no way to force people to do anything.

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This guy seems to care only about proper formatting and not the content of the posts. If it was possible to kill people over the internet I would be very afraid to post anything here.

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September 05, 2013, 09:02:36 AM
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People don't read the sticky. Instead, you should force people to read the guideline when they are about to post. Annoying yes, but I hate having to chase around a handful of people who don't care about the date format and don't fix it.

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October 26, 2013, 03:41:22 AM
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People don't read the sticky. Instead, you should force people to read the guideline when they are about to post. Annoying yes, but I hate having to chase around a handful of people who don't care about the date format and don't fix it.

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October 26, 2013, 12:46:29 PM
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Why are articles getting deleted which clearly are not dups...

And other justificatiins being... I dont like the creative title? Which is the same as the article and that comments are off topic...  what is this kindergarten class?

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October 26, 2013, 12:52:32 PM
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Why are articles getting deleted which clearly are not dups...

And other justificatiins being... I dont like the creative title? Which is the same as the article and that comments are off topic...  what is this kindergarten class?

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Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse

The title was creative. It was edited to refelect the real title.

About deletions, well, the Press board just lost about 400 threads because Ephebus decided to edit all his threads with an article about dog eating vietnamese in an incredibly assholish move, so they were removed/trashed. Most probably the article you say it's not a dupe now, was a dupe 12 hours ago.

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October 26, 2013, 01:08:13 PM
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Why are articles getting deleted which clearly are not dups...

And other justificatiins being... I dont like the creative title? Which is the same as the article and that comments are off topic...  what is this kindergarten class?

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Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/24/bitcoin-exchange-collapse-glbse

The title was creative. It was edited to refelect the real title.

About deletions, well, the Press board just lost about 400 threads because Ephebus decided to edit all his threads with an article about dog eating vietnamese in an incredibly assholish move, so they were removed/trashed. Most probably the article you say it's not a dupe now, was a dupe 12 hours ago.

Bummer. That explains it.  Maybe someone should look into a way to lock the OP after some time period for this section?




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October 31, 2013, 03:25:31 AM
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The date format is an ISO standard, I think. I use that date format in my office and instruct everyone to use it as well.

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October 31, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
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The date format is an ISO standard, I think. I use that date format in my office and instruct everyone to use it as well.


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December 10, 2013, 06:28:04 AM
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What's the deal with all these posts with the date in brackets, so that they no longer sort with posts that don't? Has everyone just collectively stopped giving a shit?

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December 10, 2013, 12:14:56 PM
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What's the deal with all these posts with the date in brackets, so that they no longer sort with posts that don't? Has everyone just collectively stopped giving a shit?

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January 05, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
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Making this thread sticky didn't achieve the intended result.

Making kiba a moderator (for a while) didn't achieve the intended result.

Maybe an SMF mod that rejects new threads whose title does not match the format?
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January 05, 2014, 07:53:46 PM
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Making this thread sticky didn't achieve the intended result.

Making kiba a moderator (for a while) didn't achieve the intended result.

Maybe an SMF mod that rejects new threads whose title does not match the format?

Even when people know the format they don't care.
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January 27, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
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does anybody enforce this? can I "report" threads for not (exactly) following the rules? With the most blatant violations I already do but hey, don't want to be the grammar nazi here

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January 28, 2014, 12:47:36 AM
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The last time we tried to get someone to enforce this he was given mod status and  then went nuts and then had it taken away.
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January 31, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
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The last time we tried to get someone to enforce this he was given mod status and  then went nuts and then had it taken away.

I try to keep an eye on this forum, but lately I've been extremely busy and don't have much time. I've seen it is really becoming a mess, but the lack of time... Need to spend a couple days looking at it page by page and fix it. See if I can make it this weekend.

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January 31, 2014, 11:10:13 AM
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The last time we tried to get someone to enforce this he was given mod status and  then went nuts and then had it taken away.

I try to keep an eye on this forum, but lately I've been extremely busy and don't have much time. I've seen it is really becoming a mess, but the lack of time... Need to spend a couple days looking at it page by page and fix it. See if I can make it this weekend.

Most of the time, I'm active reading news, making notes and doing research. Is there anything that I can help with Moderation in News section?

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February 07, 2014, 04:49:30 PM
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Admins, please increase the max subject line length for this subforum.

I understand why it is rather short, so people don't spam with it, but it's pretty much impossible to follow the post format with only a few dozen characters.

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August 29, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
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Making this thread sticky didn't achieve the intended result.

Making kiba a moderator (for a while) didn't achieve the intended result.

Maybe an SMF mod that rejects new threads whose title does not match the format?

First it started(? maybe continued) with people ignoring the lack of brackets in the POST FORMAT and making it [POST FORMAT].  Then we got to ignore the "notability" standard.

This week it looks like the "SITE" portion is being completely ignored.  With some even not including the date.

Pretty soon this will just be a clone of the Discussion section.

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August 29, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
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Making this thread sticky didn't achieve the intended result.

Making kiba a moderator (for a while) didn't achieve the intended result.

Maybe an SMF mod that rejects new threads whose title does not match the format?

First it started(? maybe continued) with people ignoring the lack of brackets in the POST FORMAT and making it [POST FORMAT].  Then we got to ignore the "notability" standard.

This week it looks like the "SITE" portion is being completely ignored.  With some even not including the date.

Pretty soon this will just be a clone of the Discussion section.

Either somebody cleaned up or it's not that bad after all.

Just have more mods with clear missions. If you have some new dude nobody knows and he promises to delete all threads on the main page that don't honor the rules, you can easily check if he's doing his work correctly and people will respect the rules quickly, too. No need to be picky about nominating a rule-enforcer mod.

Edit: ok if all include a common date format, omitting the brackets, maybe we should change the rule? title length limitation is most likely a common reason for using omiting stuff.

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August 29, 2014, 09:35:05 PM
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Making this thread sticky didn't achieve the intended result.

Making kiba a moderator (for a while) didn't achieve the intended result.

Maybe an SMF mod that rejects new threads whose title does not match the format?

First it started(? maybe continued) with people ignoring the lack of brackets in the POST FORMAT and making it [POST FORMAT].  Then we got to ignore the "notability" standard.

This week it looks like the "SITE" portion is being completely ignored.  With some even not including the date.

Pretty soon this will just be a clone of the Discussion section.

Either somebody cleaned up or it's not that bad after all. Just have more mods with clear missions. If you have some new dude nobody knows and he promises to delete all threads on the main page that don't honor the rules, you can easily check if he's doing his work correctly and people will respect the rules quickly, too. No need to be picky about nominating a rule-enforcer mod.

I did just look and all the posts date dates included brackets and all but one or two had no site portion, just the headline. :-)

It just seems silly to have rules that are ignored.

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September 08, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
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I'd like to see Press board more useful. We should be able to check press news sort by date.
When I sort by subject I see older threads post format is YYYY-MM-DD, but after late 2013 it turned to [YYYY-MM-DD]. Should people use this format now?
There are also 5 pages long threads with no date. I don't want to spam reports for obvious subject differences, but we should do something about it.
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September 14, 2014, 01:37:09 PM
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I'd like to see Press board more useful. We should be able to check press news sort by date.
When I sort by subject I see older threads post format is YYYY-MM-DD, but after late 2013 it turned to [YYYY-MM-DD]. Should people use this format now?
There are also 5 pages long threads with no date. I don't want to spam reports for obvious subject differences, but we should do something about it.

People just stopped reading the format and no one seems to be moderating the section so for the past 18 months it has been pretty much anything goes. Likewise, many of the links are not "notable" but just spammy links to non-notable sites that are reprinting other people's news.

This section at one point was useful, but now you have 5-10 copies of the same article, just repackaged on different sites and so it is not super-useful to actually find new information.  It is useful if you want to send traffic to your web site.  ;-)
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October 15, 2014, 01:51:02 PM
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Again, I propose to change OP from POST FORMAT: YYYY-MM-DD SITE - HEADLINE to POST FORMAT: [YYYY-MM-DD] SITE - HEADLINE.
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October 28, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
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Again, I propose to change OP from POST FORMAT: YYYY-MM-DD SITE - HEADLINE to POST FORMAT: [YYYY-MM-DD] SITE - HEADLINE.

OR people just follow the format already established. Easier and backwards compatible.

Likewise many of these articles are not "notable".
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November 03, 2014, 01:36:38 PM
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Just an idea:
why don't we just skip the whole "YYYY-MM-DD" part in subjects and just write a small SMF mod that puts TODAY() in said format in the subject line automatically.
Obviously, that would lead to "off-date" news, when you post yesterday's news article today, but it'd still be an improvement.
Also, maybe the mod should also replace existing "YYYY-MM-DD" strings at the beginning of a subject line, or else we'd have duplicates Wink

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