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November 28, 2017, 03:50:05 PM
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Now that it has surged that high, its either it continue increasing or crash. It will increase depending on how many investors are still willing to buy and invest despite the high price. It will crash, once holders stop holding and return the coins int he market after cash out.
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November 28, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
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They are regulating crypto exchanges and block large amounts of cash, now I can only get enough money for one simple jumping round, if I try to cash out more, they will not allow me. if people could sell their Bitcoins, price wouldn't be $9878.

Yes, several regulatory agencies which includes the United States and Europe are waging an all out war on crypto currencies and they are launching their attacks through the exchanges and all other points of  money transmission.


Why is this happening, or why are they trying to do this to me?

Please be advised that this is not a war on crypto currencies, but a war on the people as they fear a mass exodus from the financial system. A mass exodus would be a loss of centralized control of the money supply and of the people through sweat equity.

Their aim is to try and slow adoption and its overall use by attacking all the exit points such as the exchanges and money transmitters. Such regulatory bodies include, the IMF (International Monetary Fund), SEC (the Securities and Exchange Commission), and the U.S Internal Revenue Service.

Their other chief objective is to make an example out of you by either trapping you in the old financial system or locking you out of it. If they can trap you in their system then they can either extort you, jail you, fine you, or sue you. If they can lock you out of the system, then they'll seize any asset as evidence under suspicion that is directly connected to your name, freeze your accounts, and they'll even send a Financial Crimes Enforcement Unit after you by use of your registered address on file that's with the bank.

Why would they be going after Bitcoin Now? Can't they just shut it down?

They've realized that they cannot simply shut down Bitcoin or impact such a strong and resilient distributed network, they've tried for years and Bitcoin became stronger and more immune to their attacks as a result. However, they can go around the asset its self by blocking as many centralized exits as possible.

Once Bitcoin reaches an evaluation-price of at least $10,000 or more then -- I would highly advice for you to have another plan available because that will trigger the International Money Laundering Act. Most local to medium sized banks are only allowed to ensure deposits of up to $20,000.00, and are required to report deposits of up to  $10,000 and over to the IRS. If amounts of $5,000.00 are suddenly transferred after a $10,000 +  deposit then it triggers bank security policies, and you're in trouble, real deep shit.

You would be subject to seizure which is known as Civil Asset Forfeiture, which constitutes funds that can be legally seized under the presumption of illegal money transmission.

So, what kind of trouble are we talking about?

At this point ( depending on where you are) the bank would have submitted all your information to either the FBI or Interpol,  or at least all the information you submitted to them when you first opened the account. If you opened the account online then the bank has your IP address and had submitted that information too. An investigation takes place on all data and meta data gathered, two weeks later an all- out and unholy raid from Hell is performed on your address location, which is hopefully not your place of residence.

Now listen really close – Police officers don’t simply visit your home as they used to, they’re not the kind and friendly men and women that many government supporters believe. Under these circumstances, it’s every man for himself. They’ll rip your door down, take black boots to anyone’s ass they see in sight,  strip you of your humanity, berate you, beat you, mace you, slam you to the floor and shove their knees into your face, call you boy , fagot, fucker and they’ll even spit on you. A perceived white collar crime that went unanswered is the worse, being raided on a presumption is even worse.  If you have young children in the house they’ll slap them around , mace them, and even shove their fingers up their ass; they’ll literally beat the snot out of them, and torture you into a state of delirium so that you do something that will give them a reason to kill you, anything,  just so that they can kill you.

This is horrible! Tell me why again? If they seized my bank account because of a few Bitcoins why would they want to come after me?

Because the assumption of a major crime is the worse, especially one that went unanswered without legal intervention; it gives them time to imagine the worse about you, to build the worse case imaginable on their terms. Its all about money, the modern courtroom is a money racket designed to rob you of sweat equity.

And to them money is always worth more than you are. It doesn’t matter if you’re guilty or innocent. Have you ever heard the saying, lawyers make the laws?  It’s true, if you’re rich you’re innocent until proven guilty. If not – then you’re always guilty, if they can’t make money from you then you’re disposable. And when you’re middle-class you pay them for wasting their time, you plead guilty when innocent and either pay the fine or go to jail. And when you’re homeless you go straight to jail. They even have illegal jails in the courtroom where they can stick you in without anything to eat.

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And if you never received a notice (which you’ll never get because the banks keep quiet) then you’ll never have a chance to plead your case – unless you have a lawyer to intervene and he’ll eloquently describe to you the situation, the best lawyer will say .. “GET YOUR A$$ OUT OF THAT HOUSE!”  

"Only a good lawyer knows that it’s easier to defend a Freeman than one who is presumed guilty."

How do I completely avoid this kind of head ache?

If you have a significant amount of capital in Bitcoin or any form of Crypto Asset I would suggest you get it out of your Legal name and IP address as soon as possible. Have a private wealth management lawyer  create a secure wealth management plan by using a series of legal entities such as corporations, trusts, and LLCs in the Bitcoin Friendly state of Nevada. On June 5th  The state of Nevada had passed senate Bill 398 which blocks local state government entities from taxing all Blockchain transactions.   And legitimate repositioning of assets from you to an irrevocable trust is perfectly legal and makes for the perfect wealth transfer vehicle to safeguard assets.

The strategy is quite simple, legal, and painless. Your assets are owned by a subchapter S. Corporation or a Limited Liability Company and in turn the shares of the Sub S or membership units of the LLC are owned by the irrevocable trust, it's the fortress of Exclusive Asset Protection. The key to the transfer is the exchange of equal value in return for the asset, or the receipt of a fair market value for the asset transferred.

The re-positioning of assets means that you will no longer own them. If you don't own assets, no one will want to sue you; no one will want to track you; no one will want to know your name. You don't have to go offshore. Nevada’s Blockchain Asset protection through senate Bill 398 will legally defend and support your asset protection system.

A Re-loadable Wirex Bitcoin debitcard card in place of a bank account can be created for such an entity for disbursement of shares to allow you the freedom, control , and security you deserve when managing a lucrative asset. With the option to withdraw or load funds from any domestic or International location you’ll rest easy knowing you’ve got the right structure to help mitigate any situation.

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November 28, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
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Now that it has surged that high, its either it continue increasing or crash. It will increase depending on how many investors are still willing to buy and invest despite the high price. It will crash, once holders stop holding and return the coins int he market after cash out.
Bitcoin rapidly increasing high and reach $10k, there are many rumors and fudsters about it but it continue to increase. Yes in this current situation the outcomes is always may up and dump in cryptocurrency. So, the point is let's be ready on the next story about bitcoin.
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November 28, 2017, 05:11:40 PM
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They are regulating crypto exchanges and block large amounts of cash, now I can only get enough money for one simple jumping round, if I try to cash out more, they will not allow me. if people could sell their Bitcoins, price wouldn't be $9878.

But if they can easly buy bitcoin so it's may be also easy to cash them out. I didn't try to withdraw a large amount of bitcoin but i didn't expect to face some difficulties.
Even with about 10.000$ in the actual market, Bitcoin still considered as an undervalued currency with its large adoption by big players in the market.

I agree with this. Firstly, there shouldn't be any problems with cashing out Bitcoin. If you can't do it on one exchange go to another one. There are many of them and I'm sure there are no agreement whatsoever on blocking large amounts, so I don't understand what digaran is talking about. Secondly, yes, Bitcoin is still undervalued. There are much more people in the world who would buy BTC only if they knew what it is. Unbelievable but true, many rich people still have no idea.

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November 28, 2017, 05:14:05 PM
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Huge psych barrier to pass and for what its worth it was passed on KRN exchanges not American ones with the USD pairing. Let's hold off yet because even if it touches at 10k it may retract quite good giving the recent surge up as well as the barrier. Both signs to me signal a correction is incoming how big I don't know.

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November 28, 2017, 05:33:29 PM
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"What if hedge funds buy bitcoin as an investment?"
"What if investors use bitcoin as a store of value?"
"What if bitcoin is used primarily as a currency?"
Bitcoin is not yet used primarly as a currency, and not much investors use bitcoin as a store of value. But in the actual market, the exchange boost the bitcoin price to the moon with new records every day. What's next with this crypto madness?  Can we still discuss bitcoin as a Bubble?

Share your ideas about Bitcoin in the actual Market.

Bitcoin is not a bubbles yet and in years to come  $100,000 maybe the next target. We should be thankful for blockchain discovered as this has the potential of making investors millionaires and I believe that is were we are going. One of the leading hedge funds manager said of recent that "before December 2018 Bitcoin may be above  $40,000" and I seriously believe in this projection.
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November 28, 2017, 05:45:59 PM
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"What if hedge funds buy bitcoin as an investment?"
"What if investors use bitcoin as a store of value?"
"What if bitcoin is used primarily as a currency?"
Bitcoin is not yet used primarly as a currency, and not much investors use bitcoin as a store of value. But in the actual market, the exchange boost the bitcoin price to the moon with new records every day. What's next with this crypto madness?  Can we still discuss bitcoin as a Bubble?

Share your ideas about Bitcoin in the actual Market.


The futures market that is upcoming could bring stability to the price of Bitcoin. Many people see this type of investment as a negative because when you buy, you aren’t really buying Bitcoins. However, one positive is more stability but another positive is that it may make Bitcoin more legitimate in the eyes of many skeptics that see Bitcoin as a black market currency for illegal activities.
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November 28, 2017, 05:54:09 PM
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I think next one is 15k$. LOL. But I think it'll take few months for Bitcoin price to reach to 15k$ cause I think that in next few days there will be a big dump in Bitcoin price because of the whales trying to buy some more low price Bitcoin before it's the last time they see Bitcoin price under 10k$ Smiley)

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November 28, 2017, 05:56:59 PM
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I think next one is 15k$. LOL. But I think it'll take few months for Bitcoin price to reach to 15k$ cause I think that in next few days there will be a big dump in Bitcoin price because of the whales trying to buy some more low price Bitcoin before it's the last time they see Bitcoin price under 10k$ Smiley)

Yeah, common corrections do come after strong showings like this. Hopefully right after that first correction we bust through 10,000. I don't see 15k being too far off if the growth continues like it has been for the past few months. I find it amazing how the China FUD has led to this -- I would have assumed that bitcoin would have been dead! Just makes you think how much further this darn coin can go.

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November 28, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
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I have one good thought about the bitcoin if it is used as store value by the investors and new crypto lovers.
Well, anything that has value and which is stored for long time will gain more dominance with the time leading to higher rates of bitcoin. The value for it will increase, because as the time will be passing more bitcoin must be in circulation. But as the investors will be having bitcoins locked away those number would be uncounted and thus the price will rise automatically to take them out. May be this speculation could be true because that’s what happening right now.
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November 28, 2017, 06:09:33 PM
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Currently bitcoins have entered the investment assets of the business.
Forget it for dreaming bitcoins will going become as a primarily currency. Everyone also knows that with bitcoins price as going to moon . We don't have to think complicated to make profit, just buying and holding, in some weeks or few month you will get much passive profit without doing anything. This is what interest in bitcoins nowadays.
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November 28, 2017, 06:43:10 PM
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Some analysts, like Ronnie Moas, see Bitcoin rising to the $15,000 – $20,000 value by 2020. However, there are some analysts that believe that the key digital cryptocurrency will hit the $1 million level. Yet, which of the predictions are right – you never know.
The Limited supply of bitcoins may push the prices high and at the same time any crackdown by govt will take the price crumbling !

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November 28, 2017, 06:52:25 PM
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Some analysts, like Ronnie Moas, see Bitcoin rising to the $15,000 – $20,000 value by 2020. However, there are some analysts that believe that the key digital cryptocurrency will hit the $1 million level. Yet, which of the predictions are right – you never know.
The Limited supply of bitcoins may push the prices high and at the same time any crackdown by govt will take the price crumbling !
All do have the possibilities but talking already on $1M price per bitcoin is already an unrealistic thing to happen and imagine what would be the total cap when its price is like that? For sure it will surpass any local fiat currencies which isnt a possible thing on where government would let this thing to happen. for now we did able to break 10k then whats next then it would be 11k and further more.

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November 28, 2017, 07:04:19 PM
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I bet it will grow to 15k in the next 2 months
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"What if hedge funds buy bitcoin as an investment?"
"What if investors use bitcoin as a store of value?"
"What if bitcoin is used primarily as a currency?"
Bitcoin is not yet used primarly as a currency, and not much investors use bitcoin as a store of value. But in the actual market, the exchange boost the bitcoin price to the moon with new records every day. What's next with this crypto madness?  Can we still discuss bitcoin as a Bubble?

Share your ideas about Bitcoin in the actual Market.


Everything can happen in the future of Bitcoin but one thing is for sure now it is not a bubble, it is going up and up like there is no tomorrow, this is the first time in the history of Bitcoin that it increased for more than $4,000 in just 1 month.

For some people that still think that it is a bubble then let them be but the bubble that they are saying is going bigger that I think will go stronger and popping it will become impossible.

I see Bitcoin now as an asset that has a capability of appreciation over time and spending it like a digital currency on a daily basis is not a choice for me. Hodl your Bitcoins!.
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I don't know what will happen if bitcoin reached 10k but i know there will be a huge selling going on after bitcoin reached 10k so, i'll be expecting a price crash in early 2018 but i still want to bitcoin to keep on rising to be honest bitcoin is now a fastest growing asset in the world imagine in just 10 months, bitcoin grew 1000% from the price of bitcoin in early 2017 which is around 1000 from that time
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November 28, 2017, 09:46:57 PM
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"What if hedge funds buy bitcoin as an investment?"
"What if investors use bitcoin as a store of value?"
"What if bitcoin is used primarily as a currency?"
Bitcoin is not yet used primarly as a currency, and not much investors use bitcoin as a store of value. But in the actual market, the exchange boost the bitcoin price to the moon with new records every day. What's next with this crypto madness?  Can we still discuss bitcoin as a Bubble?

Share your ideas about Bitcoin in the actual Market.


OP, you raised so many questions at a time, though very nice ideas but I would respond to two of them.

What next with bitcoin after hitting $10,000 is that, personally, I expect a retracement and my reason is simply instinct being that it has been on a long bullish journey .

The second response is the last part of your questions. Yes, it is still seen as a bubble by economists.
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November 28, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
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Bitcoin hasn't been around for many years, yet it may be fair to say its price has a tendency to peak towards the end of the year during the holidays. This could be due to seasonal demand, black friday & christmas sales. If the consensus price reaches $10k (bitcoin is trading as high as $18,500 on some african exchanges) it could stay $10k throughout 2018. A big part of the equation is how many users bitcoin has, how many users it will gain and how many users it is engineered to handle.

The respective price surge and bitcoin bandwagon hoppers appear to be drowning out notions of btc being a bubble at the moment. There is a danger bitcoin could become a bubble if its value becomes disproportionate to its fundamental metrics. One thing which reduces the likelihood of it becoming a bubble is its price hike being driven more by demand than market manipulation or gimmicks. A case could be made for bitcoin's rising value being fueled by fundamental market forces. This could imply the massive spike in value is sustainable and will continue into 2018.
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November 28, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
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Thank you Elegion for your well thought out and through answer. It is definitely a lot to think so it would be best to be safe. Would a hardware wallet be the best way to avoid many of these issues and get the coins off the exchanges? How would one scrub records from the exchanges or keep the exchanges from releasing the info to the government. I believe that personal confidentiality is very important and I would not be part of any exchange that doesn't respect that principle.

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November 28, 2017, 11:17:07 PM
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There are really nice news. In fact when overcoming such significant amounts, the asset usually rises sharply. We are waiting for 11.000$ as soon as possible.
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