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July 01, 2013, 08:29:17 PM
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Looking to sell it at mtgox -20%. Need these asap.

Heres all the feedback I have relating to bitcoins, it's not much, but its a start.
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/alpha523/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222173.msg2345405#msg2345405
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=221419.msg2334737#msg2334737
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July 01, 2013, 08:48:02 PM
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Im interested message me
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July 01, 2013, 08:58:16 PM
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We have reached a deal, but need escrow

Also my OTC profile

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Blazedout419

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July 01, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
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If needed I can escrow, under 3 BTC transactions are free, tips are welcomed but not necessary. Check my reputation thread and my escrow service OP too if interested, both found in my signature.

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July 01, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
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Buyer was sent to bitmit to purchase using their escrow system.
Item can be found here: https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/43197-150-amazon-gift-card
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July 01, 2013, 09:09:00 PM
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That escrow is fine.. I have never used bitmit so no clue how that works.
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July 01, 2013, 09:11:30 PM
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If you are down for using this gentlemen for escrow lets do it, if not I am sure you can find someone else to make a deal.
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July 01, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
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Contacting King right now for escrow
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July 01, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
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Yup I can do it. What is the specific trade ? So I can write a short contract and send to both parties.

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July 01, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
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My 1.3 BTC for his Amazon $150
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Short contract sent to both parties. Check PMs.

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July 01, 2013, 09:26:43 PM
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1.3 BTC sent to the escrow address. If the amount was 1.34 please send the additional .04.

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Sent...
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July 01, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
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1.34 rec'd in escrow address. Would recommend waiting for a confirmation, but up to the buyer. Let me know when to release.
https://blockchain.info/address/14LSkw49ELkKZB24KM59tYiev4Hpz8BKJh

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July 01, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
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This gift card claim code has been redeemed to another account.

The amount on this gift card has already been applied to another account.
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July 01, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
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Wrong code maybe?
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July 01, 2013, 09:40:47 PM
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Wrong code maybe?

Just fyi, I was sent the code but did not use it. I told him to send that to you.

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July 01, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
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Right....
Well that code is no good... glad i use escrow.  Thinking i should stick to OTC trades..
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July 01, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
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@Alpha what is going on? Why did the code not work?

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July 01, 2013, 09:54:17 PM
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Sigh..
I guess send me coins back.. what a waste of time.
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July 01, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
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Keep that .04 for the saving me part!
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July 01, 2013, 09:55:21 PM
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Sigh..
I guess send me coins back.. what a waste of time.

Please wait an hour or two to do so. We have to give him time to reply. He wouldn't have been serious about trading if he hadn't agreed to using an escrow.

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Alright
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July 01, 2013, 09:59:04 PM
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Alright

Please check your PM.

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July 01, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
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This guy now trying to scam me after sending a bad Amazon code..
I do much larger deals than this all the time in OTC and would not risk my rep for a tiny 1.34 BTC deal.. I just finished a 10 BTC deal not 3 hours ago. 
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July 01, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
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http://gyazo.com/f07cec23f41552e0873b5ca7aae47834 - Shows the code that I sent to myself.
http://gyazo.com/758ba448d7c288828b26a6efbceb5294 - order invoice
http://gyazo.com/1c8be21db972250f0a1cf55f4707c71b - proof it was redeemed.

http://gyazo.com/fc1b8db3c5f1a359bd536f8514b60fd6 - Me trying to get the giftcard back.

Sorry for ever making the deal with the user, and i am very sorry for the complications to you king, i know that you just wanted to help people out.
Lesson learned: NEVER make deals with new members on the forums. No matter what there feedback elsewhere says.
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July 01, 2013, 10:35:08 PM
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Have them tell you what email used it then... it was not mine i can guarantee that.
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July 01, 2013, 10:36:05 PM
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http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Blazedout419

I trade for much larger stuff all the time... no way id scam a pathetic 1.34 BTC you are full of shit
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July 01, 2013, 10:38:21 PM
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Have them tell you what email used it then... it was not mine i can guarantee that.
This is what I asked him to do. I also asked him if he can get live chat to tell us what time it was used. As well as the amazon account under the connected email.

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July 01, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
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Perfect
I will bet you anything he says "oh they wont do that"
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July 01, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
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I am trying to be as impartial here as possible. Neither of you I sense is lying however something is up, ugh. 50/50 chance someone gets scammed cause of my decision.

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My current amazon balance.. look at past gift amounts all traded for coins.
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July 01, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
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Contacted amazon live support. This is what the result was when I asked where the card was redeemed. http://gyazo.com/082a76c33073af11a84b40eb528fc1be
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July 01, 2013, 11:14:02 PM
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Contacted amazon live support. This is what the result was when I asked where the card was redeemed. http://gyazo.com/082a76c33073af11a84b40eb528fc1be


his email is blazeout419 and not blazedout419?

fishy!
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July 01, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
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Once again. Here is all the screenshots that I have taken and sent to King.
http://gyazo.com/f07cec23f41552e0873b5ca7aae47834 - Shows the code that I sent to myself.
http://gyazo.com/758ba448d7c288828b26a6efbceb5294 - order invoice
http://gyazo.com/1c8be21db972250f0a1cf55f4707c71b - proof it was redeemed.

Isnt looking good. http://gyazo.com/fc1b8db3c5f1a359bd536f8514b60fd6
They aren't going to refund it.

http://gyazo.com/3b06e07b7403e09ccae6218660c54d41
http://gyazo.com/8ae59b4e4ce453f59fc2692e6e12f1de
http://gyazo.com/ce182add903e076a2366dfe063f2fc43

http://gyazo.com/082a76c33073af11a84b40eb528fc1be
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July 01, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
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Contacted amazon live support. This is what the result was when I asked where the card was redeemed. http://gyazo.com/082a76c33073af11a84b40eb528fc1be


his email is blazeout419 and not blazedout419?

fishy!
Just posting what amazon said.
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I am having the OP download skype to share screen and repeat the asking of who used the code and such via live chat with Amazon.

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July 01, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
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No my email is not Blazedout anything
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Nice try though my Amazon email is my personal email same i registered these forums with. 
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Blazed, I shared screen with alpha and the Amazon representative said it was used on that account. The representative told me it was used at 5:36 PM, about 5 or 6 minutes after the code was sent to you via PM. Looking at the users computer and programs, nothing indicated this person changed photos or did anything illegimately. I checked their amazon account and tabs nothing suspicious, I did not say anything when I studied this. I understand you have your reputation but the evidence here points to the OP being truthfully. I am allowing you 15-30 minutes to provide any evidence you have if anything. After which I will be releasing the escrow. Please do not have ill will towards me, I have tried to be as impartial as I can in this. In the future should I ever choose to escrow again, I will do skype calls sharing screens or literally just ask for account info and add the funds myself so that I am the only one who sees the code n whether or not its legit. I am sorry to both parties for this and I wish you both the best.

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July 01, 2013, 11:57:08 PM
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The email that used the code used the code at 5:36, if the OP had been smart enough to create an amazon account and add the funds to scam u and make it look like that, they would have added the funds BEFORE sending the code. This was not the case. The funds were added after the code was sent.

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hmmm

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July 01, 2013, 11:58:04 PM
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hmmm

This has been my evening...fun. Sigh, all I tried to do was help.

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July 02, 2013, 12:01:57 AM
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hmmm

This has been my evening...fun. Sigh, all I tried to do was help.

I wondered why you were offering escrow with activity 112... I read some of your posts and Oldsport rings a bell in more ways than one. Prolly a coincidence...

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July 02, 2013, 12:05:41 AM
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hmmm

This has been my evening...fun. Sigh, all I tried to do was help.

I wondered why you were offering escrow with activity 112... I read some of your posts and Oldsport rings a bell in more ways than one. Prolly a coincidence...

What? I am not related to Oldsport in any way?

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How about KingOfSports and alpha523 explain lying about the email address first before sending alpha523 his money back?
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How about KingOfSports and alpha523 explain lying about the email address first before sending alpha523 his money back?


What the hell? I am so confused.

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July 02, 2013, 12:08:10 AM
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The email that used the code used the code at 5:36, if the OP had been smart enough to create an amazon account and add the funds to scam u and make it look like that, they would have added the funds BEFORE sending the code. This was not the case. The funds were added after the code was sent.

explain this? what does this even mean...

it takes about 10 seconds to make an amazon and gmail account. you could ask what the IP addresses were of the users who redeemed the code, if they'll give it to you.

but again if there is collusion between escrow and whoever ends up on the benefit side of this, all of it can be faked.

never mind the obvious redflag of someone giving you $150 for $120 because it is needed "asap" ... laugh.






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July 02, 2013, 12:09:37 AM
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How about KingOfSports and alpha523 explain lying about the email address first before sending alpha523 his money back?
https://i.imgur.com/AtnBY5Z.png

What the hell? I am so confused.


LOL ok. Again, it is obvious that there is no "provability" here. Wamp wamp.
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What the hell? I am so confused.

I wonder why you are so confused? If someone called me a scammer I'd be angry not confused...

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July 02, 2013, 12:10:25 AM
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Literally whoever I side with, I am going to be accused of being a scammer. Not kidding here I am about to flip a coin and fucking just send it to that person. ALL I HAVE EVER TRIED TO DO WAS HELP PEOPLE AND NOW IM GETTING CALLED OUT FOR IT.THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT. SERIOUSLY FUCK BITCOIN. after this I am so done with this forum and all, all I tried to do was help, prevent someone from getting scammed, but no even the scammers use escrow. Seriously whoever is lying here I hope you rot in hell for other things youve done in life. Seriously, lying over $150, one of you is.

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Literally if both parties agree I'll do a random on random.org I cant take it anymore i Cant. No matter what I do people will accuse me of scamming. This stupid transaction has ruined any rep I have because the loser will file scam accusation and all u people who think i sound like someone else or whatever will follow up on it, both parties have decent evidence thus screwing me cause I have no decision.

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That's better - more convincing with the anger rather than being confused - I see you know who Oldsport is tho'...

[EDIT] when you pick your next character - drop the sport - just sayin

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That's better - more convincing with the anger rather than being confused - I see you know who Oldsport is tho'...

The only thing I know about fucking Oldsport is him and Viceroy go at it on this forums, and that oldsport got caught scammming or something and still talks here on that account. Literally can someone provide me a choice here that doesn't ruin any rep besides a flip of a coin? There is no indisputable evidence for either side that proves either one innocent or guilty.

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That's better - more convincing with the anger rather than being confused - I see you know who Oldsport is tho'...

[EDIT] when you pick your next character - drop the sport - just sayin

I bet on sports as a profitable hobby hence the kingofsports...now please can someone provide analysis to this or make the option for me

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July 02, 2013, 12:19:40 AM
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I have decided I have no decision. I cannot make one. I want to split the coins, flip a coin or have a 4th party take over this escrow. I can;t do this and never will escrow again.

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Just give me my coins back.. I have given proof that i did not use the code.
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No i do not want to lose half my coins to a scammer for no reason... I DID NOT USE THE CODE
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Give the guy his coins back - keep your rep - simple as

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July 02, 2013, 12:21:17 AM
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I want my full 1.34 BTC back to:
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Wtf. I aleeady did the code at 20% off now I get this crap.
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How do i get this guy the scammer tag?
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I'm fed up with scammers on here - luckily it's only 1 and a bit BTC - if he doesn't get his coin back then this is going to scammers thread

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Also just got my coins back from KingofSports..

Will never attempt a trade here again lesson learned.. If anyone who is not a scammer ever wants to trade I am always in #bitcoin-OTC
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Call your credit card company and reverse it. I have refunded the person with the most rep, there is no way to prove anything in this. Both parties have no evidence, either party couldve created email. I am done with escrows done with it all, file scam accusations idc im done. Literally I've lost hope in bitcoin users after this. Itll never be successful long term with people using it like this. Whoever lied go to hell.

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Also thank you nottm28 for helping me out and being honest... obviously that is rare around here.
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July 02, 2013, 12:29:35 AM
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I'm fed up with scammers on here - luckily it's only 1 and a bit BTC - if he doesn't get his coin back then this is going to scammers thread

your just a troll that honestly had no business here. People like you make me sick. I hate scammers but I hate people who get involved in business that is not theirs.

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I'm fed up with scammers on here - luckily it's only 1 and a bit BTC - if he doesn't get his coin back then this is going to scammers thread

your just a troll that honestly had no business here. People like you make me sick. I hate scammers but I hate people who get involved in business that is not theirs.

Just don't like to see people ripped off - like a lot of people on here - old sport

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Also thank you nottm28 for helping me out and being honest... obviously that is rare around here.

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Further proof:


It was used to buy Kindle accessories. And alpha523 is the one with a Kindle fetish here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237342.msg2510813#msg2510813

How do i get this guy the scammer tag?

Just make a thread in the Scam Accusations section
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
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July 02, 2013, 12:34:10 AM
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Can we get this scammer a tag then?
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July 02, 2013, 12:38:33 AM
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Can we get this scammer a tag then?

Coins were repaid - not a scam this time - no tag required

[EDIT] lessons learned I hope

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July 02, 2013, 12:40:42 AM
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Can we get this scammer a tag then?

Coins were repaid - not a scam this time - no tag required

Only because an escrow was used. The OP did make false accusations and TRIED to get the coins.

Blazedout419 Just make a thread in the Scam Accusations section.
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July 02, 2013, 12:41:32 AM
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Can we get this scammer a tag then?

Coins were repaid - not a scam this time - no tag required

Only because an escrow was used. The OP did make false accusations and TRIED to get the coins.

Blazedout419 Just make a thread in the Scam Accusations section.

Best to be safe than sorry Smiley

[EDIT] and in this case I think escrow = buyer

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Blazed, I shared screen with alpha and the Amazon representative said it was used on that account. The representative told me it was used at 5:36 PM, about 5 or 6 minutes after the code was sent to you via PM. Looking at the users computer and programs, nothing indicated this person changed photos or did anything illegimately. I checked their amazon account and tabs nothing suspicious, I did not say anything when I studied this. I understand you have your reputation but the evidence here points to the OP being truthfully. I am allowing you 15-30 minutes to provide any evidence you have if anything. After which I will be releasing the escrow. Please do not have ill will towards me, I have tried to be as impartial as I can in this. In the future should I ever choose to escrow again, I will do skype calls sharing screens or literally just ask for account info and add the funds myself so that I am the only one who sees the code n whether or not its legit. I am sorry to both parties for this and I wish you both the best.

What does "shared screen" mean here, the timing seems off.

you were talking to the amazon rep and saw them do this in real time? http://gyazo.com/082a76c33073af11a84b40eb528fc1be ?

Because if you actually saw that, then I'd believe it. Because we have other (more screenshots, easily faked) evidence where reps do not say that.

It's just odd that you claim this very early on in the dispute but then for some reason backpedal when someone else asks the same question and gets a different answer.

I know if i actually talked to a representative, which answer they'd give me.


I'm also interested in how someone else can say "I bought order #12345" and not have to be logged in on the account that actually purchased it to get someone's email address out of amazon. That seems ... fishy ... also. I've checked and here is the email address of the person who redeemed it? Really?

Yikes.

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