ASICMINER Blade announcment predictions.

[hamiltino]

What are your predictions, of the new pricing and specs of the Block Erupter Blade that's being announced shortly?

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[TheSwede75]

Still 10 or perhaps 20 GH/s priced at around 1.5-2 BTC per GH/s

[rammy2k2]

Where did they announced new blade?

[hamiltino]

friedcat mentioned it in the official blade thread.

[lithiumfinn]

http://wenku.baidu.com/view/ede0631876c66137ee06192f.html

New hardware starts on page 76.

2 blades, a 10Gh/s and 5Gh/s on July 10th. No price mentioned as far as I can tell.

[hamiltino]

Are they in anyway more efficient?

[rammy2k2]

http://wenku.baidu.com/view/ede0631876c66137ee06192f.html

So was this deemed as not accurate?

New hardware starts on page 76.

2 blades, a 10Gh/s and 5Gh/s on July 10th. No price mentioned as far as I can tell.

buah ... was hoping for higher speeds ...

[Foofighter]

thanks for the info!

[Paladin69]

10GH still @ a price that is 1/4th the cost to develop so he can make more for himself.

[rammy2k2]

Yea, as far as i understood translating from chinese, there will be same 10 GH blade (with some improved stuff) and a 5 GH blade, called "Mini Blade".
Honestly i was hoping for a new blade with higher speed ...

[ScaryHash]

At current prices of ~44 btc per blade, assuming 10.3 Gh/s per blade, starting at 25 million difficulty, an ASICMINER blade won't make ROI for a 33 weeks (assuming 12.5 % difficulty rise per month).

Any bitcoin calculator will tell you that.

If they cut the cost in half, it will still take you 4 months to make your money back, using above "conservative" assumptions for difficulty increase.

Not sure if it will be worth it.

[twitami1]

Four months to make an ROI!! OMG! I am gonna go try something else with a faster ROI like...umm, errr, well....maybe, no that wont do it....umm...

[Flashman]

26.290 Gigahash blades with custom water block requiring decarbonated Perrier flowing 2000 litres per minute at a temperature of exactly 14.9C

87.334 BTC each

[MagicMike523]

I heard power consumption will be decreased.  The original blades are 8.3 Watts per Giga Hash, so lets hope that gets cut in half.  

That would put a 10GHash blade at 41 watts and a half blade at 20.5 watts.  A 20watt 5ghash miner with built in controller is absolutely perfect for my purposes.

I hope the price comes down quite a lot too.  But I'm not holding my breath

[Gomeler]

I heard power consumption will be decreased.  The original blades are 8.3 Watts per Giga Hash, so lets hope that gets cut in half.  

That would put a 10GHash blade at 41 watts and a half blade at 20.5 watts.  A 20watt 5ghash miner with built in controller is absolutely perfect for my purposes.

I hope the price comes down quite a lot too.  But I'm not holding my breath

Power consumption is not going to drop like that. They are using the same chips and unless they can decrease the voltage to dramatically increase efficiency and then use more chips, they won't see a magical efficiency gain. They might gain a few % optimizing the power conversion.

[dogie]

If anyone wants blades today that exist in hand, pm me :p

[rammy2k2]

26.290 Gigahash blades with custom water block requiring decarbonated Perrier flowing 2000 litres per minute at a temperature of exactly 14.9C

87.334 BTC each

wtf are u talking abt ?

[Flashman]

Adult stuff, go tidy your room.

[klondike_bar]

Id like to see at least 750Mhash/BTC with immediate availability, 1Ghash/BTC would be better

[sikman]

I still can't believe people paid around 50BTC for one unit with ROI projection towards NEVER BREAKING EVEN, I still think he will rape you all for 25-30BTC and people will still buy them, even at that price there a boat anchor with no resale value after sep/oct

[derr777]

I agree.. He'll try to get 25-30 (read: too much). Theres still a large number of people on this very forum who will probably pay 35  for one, even though i can just about prove that would be a poor investment.  Their numbers are dwindling a bit, but being good at math is, ironically, not a prerequisite for someone who brute forces sha256 hashes.

[klondike_bar]

I expect the same 10GHash boards, perhaps a v2.0 with lower power draw or better overclocking.  I would pay up to 20BTC for it to deliver within 2weeks, expecting to break even within about 5-6 months.

please keep in mind that electricity costs vary greatly. I pay about $0.095/KWH in ontario, Quebec residents see as low at $0.05, and ive seen people on BTC-talk complain about breakeven time using $0.25/KWH.

[lithiumfinn]

I agree.. He'll try to get 25-30 (read: too much). Theres still a large number of people on this very forum who will probably pay 35  for one, even though i can just about prove that would be a poor investment.  Their numbers are dwindling a bit, but being good at math is, ironically, not a prerequisite for someone who brute forces sha256 hashes.

And the rest clamor for a preorder spot with no solid release date.

[DPoS]

I agree.. He'll try to get 25-30 (read: too much). Theres still a large number of people on this very forum who will probably pay 35  for one, even though i can just about prove that would be a poor investment.  Their numbers are dwindling a bit, but being good at math is, ironically, not a prerequisite for someone who brute forces sha256 hashes.

you forget that some of those folk might of made 10000x ROI already from early mining..   dicking around in a casino with house money is not uncommon

[Flashman]

Really, I don't think you can blame friedcat much for the pricing, he did the "price discovery" auctions and they went where they went. (Thanks morons ) Though it was certainly great for AM shareholders to get basically 2 years expected return up front. Even if he's selling as "cheap" as needed for a 6 month ROI, he's able to replace the hardware, or remake it in half that time, so still great news for the shareholders.

please keep in mind that electricity costs vary greatly. I pay about $0.095/KWH in ontario,

Yah I was calculating at ~10c for Ontario here, then realised it averages closer to 8, because we get 4.5 days worth of the lowest rate per week, with 7-7 and the weekends.

[JimiQ84]

maybe new blades will have better heat dissipation and even casing... let's wait few more days :-)

[yxxyun]

the new blade is 5g 10g 20g. don't know price now

and the 10g blade can't over clock

[Bitcoinorama]

the new blade is 5g 10g 20g. don't know price now

and the 10g blade can't over clock

I'm going to take a wild guess at 10BTC, 20BTC and 40BTC, but I'm willing to be surprised...

[mvidetto]

I'll take a gander at overpriced and waste of money...

[CoinHoarder]

I hope they have similar prices to 1 BTC Block Erupter USBs. I broke even on those with ~145% ROI in about three days. Pretty sure I could do the same thing with the blades... good ole Ebay.

And everyone says you'll for sure lose your money if you buy ASICMINER equipment... you just gotta think outside of the box people and it can be profitable.

[jspielberg]

the new blade is 5g 10g 20g. don't know price now

and the 10g blade can't over clock

I'm going to take a wild guess at 10BTC, 20BTC and 40BTC, but I'm willing to be surprised...

I was thinking the exact same: 2BTC/GHs

[rammy2k2]

there wont be any 20 GH ones, as far as i readed the chinese presentation there will be 5 GH and 10 GH ...

[HTML5 Gordon]

Will be interesting to see how they price these.  I have a feeling they will be fairly expensive - like ~15BTC for the 5Gh and close to 30BTC for the 10Gh.  I guess we'll know fairly soon.  Here's hoping they surprise me.

[rammy2k2]

Will be interesting to see how they price these.  I have a feeling they will be fairly expensive - like ~15BTC for the 5Gh and close to 30BTC for the 10Gh.  I guess we'll know fairly soon.  Here's hoping they surprise me.

i hope the same

[pikeadz]

I hope they have similar prices to 1 BTC Block Erupter USBs. I broke even on those with ~145% ROI in about three days. Pretty sure I could do the same thing with the blades... good ole Ebay.

And everyone says you'll for sure lose your money if you buy ASICMINER equipment... you just gotta think outside of the box people and it can be profitable.

Your buyers have 45 days to chargeback the purchase with Paypal, and even longer with their credit cards.  And if the credit card is reported as stolen, indefinitely.  If you haven't been scammed selling on ebay yet, you're lucky.

[Flashman]

I hope they have similar prices to 1 BTC Block Erupter USBs. I broke even on those with ~145% ROI in about three days. Pretty sure I could do the same thing with the blades... good ole Ebay.

And everyone says you'll for sure lose your money if you buy ASICMINER equipment... you just gotta think outside of the box people and it can be profitable.

Well if you're gonna do it like that, most profitable ASIC so far..... KNC, infinite % profit on selling unpaid pre-orders

[ScaryHash]

I hope they have similar prices to 1 BTC Block Erupter USBs. I broke even on those with ~145% ROI in about three days. Pretty sure I could do the same thing with the blades... good ole Ebay.

And everyone says you'll for sure lose your money if you buy ASICMINER equipment... you just gotta think outside of the box people and it can be profitable.

Your buyers have 45 days to chargeback the purchase with Paypal, and even longer with their credit cards.  And if the credit card is reported as stolen, indefinitely.  If you haven't been scammed selling on ebay yet, you're lucky.

Lol. Been selling on Ebay for years. You just have to know how to do it. You have to plan ahead, and plan on attempting to be charged back by scammer.

If you are planning on selling any high value items that you think people will charge you back for, make a new free checking account, get it paypal verified ahead of time, when the money clears, take the money out and and close the account if necessary.

Rinse and repeat.

[DPoS]

I hope they have similar prices to 1 BTC Block Erupter USBs. I broke even on those with ~145% ROI in about three days. Pretty sure I could do the same thing with the blades... good ole Ebay.

And everyone says you'll for sure lose your money if you buy ASICMINER equipment... you just gotta think outside of the box people and it can be profitable.

Your buyers have 45 days to chargeback the purchase with Paypal, and even longer with their credit cards.  And if the credit card is reported as stolen, indefinitely.  If you haven't been scammed selling on ebay yet, you're lucky.

Lol. Been selling on Ebay for years. You just have to know how to do it. You have to plan ahead, and plan on attempting to be charged back by scammer.

If you are planning on selling any high value items that you think people will charge you back for, make a new free checking account, get it paypal verified ahead of time, when the money clears, take the money out and and close the account if necessary.

Rinse and repeat.

Will paypal try to extract from your other accounts since it seems now they would attach everything to your ebay account right?

Do you make multiple paypal accounts? 

[rammy2k2]

please stop the ebay offtopic

[Polyatomic]

I'm thinking another USB  type miner from AsicMiner.

[innovation]

New Blade - 10Ghash/s
Mini Blade - 5 Ghash/s

[rammy2k2]

New Blade - 10Ghash/s
Mini Blade - 5 Ghash/s

we already know that, price is the question

[notlist3d]

I predict its held a little till bitcoin goes up. 

[bobboooiie]

I predict its held a little till bitcoin goes up. 

Great logic! (Not) . They can wait with bitcoins on their pocket rather then blades. If btc crashes to some small value, you have a lot of useless HW that no one will buy.