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July 08, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
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i ordered a pre-order for batch 1  from bitbars.net  . i know it's a long shot but heck if it comes threw it will be badAZZ

Are you seriously that stupid?  THAT IS A SCAM

Did you also send money to Nigeria to get your million dollar "inheritance"?  I bet you did.  Let me guess - you are still waiting on it ...
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July 08, 2013, 03:54:47 PM
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i ordered a pre-order for batch 1  from bitbars.net  . i know it's a long shot but heck if it comes threw it will be badAZZ

Are you seriously that stupid?  THAT IS A SCAM

Did you also send money to Nigeria to get your million dollar "inheritance"?  I bet you did.  Let me guess - you are still waiting on it ...

He gave them his address/phone number too apparently. Have fun with your identity theft I guess.  Undecided
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July 08, 2013, 04:00:31 PM
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The problem is that what is holding Scrypt back is not what was holding SHA-256 back. You can throw more and more processors at SHA-256 and come out with more and more hashrate. This is simply not true for Scrypt. Scrypt requires more processors combined with a higher and higher memory bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD place a lot of money into memory R&D to that end, more than any person interested in a Scrypt ASIC can currently field.

Basically, a Scrypt ASIC will not hash faster than a GPU, because you're not going to put >GDRR5 memory on an ASIC. However, a Scrypt ASIC could work as a standalone unit, which would be beneficial for someone who wants a lot of them. Other than that, there is no real benefit to designing a Scrypt ASIC for anyone interested in cryptocurrency.

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July 08, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
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i ordered a pre-order for batch 1  from bitbars.net  . i know it's a long shot but heck if it comes threw it will be badAZZ

Are you seriously that stupid?  THAT IS A SCAM

Did you also send money to Nigeria to get your million dollar "inheritance"?  I bet you did.  Let me guess - you are still waiting on it ...

Hey bro .. its a scam because why? So many people said BFL was a scam and now i am mining at 50 g/h with my BFL miner. I was one of the first to order with BFL. Risk was high but my money roll today is a lot fater . Bitbars.net has already sold out of batch 1 3000 something orders. So i am guessing i am not the only one rolling the DICE  Grin
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July 08, 2013, 09:12:46 PM
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i ordered a pre-order for batch 1  from bitbars.net  . i know it's a long shot but heck if it comes threw it will be badAZZ

Are you seriously that stupid?  THAT IS A SCAM

Did you also send money to Nigeria to get your million dollar "inheritance"?  I bet you did.  Let me guess - you are still waiting on it ...

Hey bro .. its a scam because why? So many people said BFL was a scam and now i am mining at 50 g/h with my BFL miner. I was one of the first to order with BFL. Risk was high but my money roll today is a lot fater . Bitbars.net has already sold out of batch 1 3000 something orders. So i am guessing i am not the only one rolling the DICE  Grin

It's just a silly scam run by Trucoin - was the butt of a whole lot of jokes on here a few weeks ago.  If you were dumb enough to preorder, your money is gone.  Sorry.

(note his first scam was to sell a $7.95 gold bar USB drive, a widely available common retail item, for $100 claiming it was some kind of special bitbar vault)

(note#2 just because a web site says there are 3000 orders does not make that true.  My guess, friend, is you are the first person naive enough to place an actual order)
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July 08, 2013, 09:24:35 PM
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FPGA = Re-programmable
ASIC = Not

Read through the thread in my signature, there is a decent amount of discussion on the subject.

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July 08, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
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The problem is that what is holding Scrypt back is not what was holding SHA-256 back. You can throw more and more processors at SHA-256 and come out with more and more hashrate. This is simply not true for Scrypt. Scrypt requires more processors combined with a higher and higher memory bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD place a lot of money into memory R&D to that end, more than any person interested in a Scrypt ASIC can currently field.

Basically, a Scrypt ASIC will not hash faster than a GPU, because you're not going to put >GDRR5 memory on an ASIC. However, a Scrypt ASIC could work as a standalone unit, which would be beneficial for someone who wants a lot of them. Other than that, there is no real benefit to designing a Scrypt ASIC for anyone interested in cryptocurrency.

You are forgetting about the power costs.

Since ASIC's are so much more efficient than using a GPU, they use a lot less energy.

Say an ASIC and a 7970 both hashes at 700KH/s, but the ASIC uses only 80 watts while your 7970 uses 300 watts.

That will save me around $25 a month per ASIC (it's $0.16/kWh where I live)

If I get 12 ASIC's, I'll hash at around 8.4MH/s and save $300 a month.

That's quite a lot when added over the lifespan of my mining rig.

 
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July 08, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
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The problem is that what is holding Scrypt back is not what was holding SHA-256 back. You can throw more and more processors at SHA-256 and come out with more and more hashrate. This is simply not true for Scrypt. Scrypt requires more processors combined with a higher and higher memory bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD place a lot of money into memory R&D to that end, more than any person interested in a Scrypt ASIC can currently field.

Basically, a Scrypt ASIC will not hash faster than a GPU, because you're not going to put >GDRR5 memory on an ASIC. However, a Scrypt ASIC could work as a standalone unit, which would be beneficial for someone who wants a lot of them. Other than that, there is no real benefit to designing a Scrypt ASIC for anyone interested in cryptocurrency.

You are forgetting about the power costs.

Since ASIC's are so much more efficient than using a GPU, they use a lot less energy.

Say an ASIC and a 7970 both hashes at 700KH/s, but the ASIC uses only 80 watts while your 7970 uses 300 watts.

That will save me around $25 a month per ASIC (it's $0.16/kWh where I live)

If I get 12 ASIC's, I'll hash at around 8.4MH/s and save $300 a month.

That's quite a lot when added over the lifespan of my mining rig.

Not to mention it should be a lot quieter!  Smiley
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July 08, 2013, 09:29:41 PM
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The problem is that what is holding Scrypt back is not what was holding SHA-256 back. You can throw more and more processors at SHA-256 and come out with more and more hashrate. This is simply not true for Scrypt. Scrypt requires more processors combined with a higher and higher memory bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD place a lot of money into memory R&D to that end, more than any person interested in a Scrypt ASIC can currently field.

Basically, a Scrypt ASIC will not hash faster than a GPU, because you're not going to put >GDRR5 memory on an ASIC. However, a Scrypt ASIC could work as a standalone unit, which would be beneficial for someone who wants a lot of them. Other than that, there is no real benefit to designing a Scrypt ASIC for anyone interested in cryptocurrency.

You are forgetting about the power costs.

Since ASIC's are so much more efficient than using a GPU, they use a lot less energy.

Say an ASIC and a 7970 both hashes at 700KH/s, but the ASIC uses only 80 watts while your 7970 uses 300 watts.

That will save me around $25 a month per ASIC (it's $0.16/kWh where I live)

If I get 12 ASIC's, I'll hash at around 8.4MH/s and save $300 a month.

That's quite a lot when added over the lifespan of my mining rig.

Not to mention it should be a lot quieter!  Smiley

+1

Plus no messy wires from PSU's and you don't have to get anyone to rewire your house unless you plan to start a huge ASIC farm.

 
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July 08, 2013, 09:31:43 PM
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i ordered a pre-order for batch 1  from bitbars.net  . i know it's a long shot but heck if it comes threw it will be badAZZ

Are you seriously that stupid?  THAT IS A SCAM

Did you also send money to Nigeria to get your million dollar "inheritance"?  I bet you did.  Let me guess - you are still waiting on it ...

Hey bro .. its a scam because why? So many people said BFL was a scam and now i am mining at 50 g/h with my BFL miner. I was one of the first to order with BFL. Risk was high but my money roll today is a lot fater . Bitbars.net has already sold out of batch 1 3000 something orders. So i am guessing i am not the only one rolling the DICE  Grin

It's just a silly scam run by Trucoin - was the butt of a whole lot of jokes on here a few weeks ago.  If you were dumb enough to preorder, your money is gone.  Sorry.

(note his first scam was to sell a $7.95 gold bar USB drive, a widely available common retail item, for $100 claiming it was some kind of special bitbar vault)

(note#2 just because a web site says there are 3000 orders does not make that true.  My guess, friend, is you are the first person naive enough to place an actual order)

Yea i have researched this truCoin . Turns out it was a girl. Wonder if that's the person who called me to confirm my order "jess" .Seems like this trucoin was a bag of dicks most of the time but sometimes had some valid thoughts. Oh well i am only out  65 LTC No worries but it would be the tits if the device shows up at my door
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July 08, 2013, 10:35:30 PM
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.... but it would be the tits if the device shows up at my door

Absolutely!
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