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Author Topic: [ANN] Bminer: a fast Equihash/Ethash/Tensority miner for CUDA GPUs (9.0.0)  (Read 43820 times)
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February 04, 2018, 02:42:05 PM
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could you add the list of device in the next release? for eg. I want to run some device in zec, some device in zen. Thanks you
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February 04, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
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- Flypool reports 24h hashrate right there in the graph. It's the rightmost orange dot or the value reported at the top for average, e.g. https://i.gyazo.com/2026ef989969e01c7003d854512bedc5.png (the orange dot is better because you can read it with 2 decimals more or less, the value at the top only gives you a single decimal)

Thanks for pointing that out... now if only they had pools for ZEN and ZCL.

To all of you: Please STOP using Luckpool. You're aware that it gives a full coin to the block finder (that "jackpot" shit they have), and reduces the payout for everyone else, right (block finder gets 1 ZEN, everyone else shares only 10 ZEN instead of 11 ZEN)? This advantages the large miners. You will lose profits with it unless you have a large hashrate larger than the majority and if you don't mine for very long periods uninterrupted. you. Some of us aren't. Some of us care about frauds being exposed.

Yeah, I knew that my average payout would effectively be reduced by 9% (1 block out of 11) but I chose them because - up until very recently, anyway - they had the shortest time to find a new block and my experience thus far, particularly with PPLNS pools, is that if there is too long between blocks you get royally screwed on your earnings. The most egregious example of this is VTC on give-me-coins where the time to find a block varies from 30 hours to over 100; you can literally mine there for days with no increase to your balance, leave the pool for something more productive and then it finds a block, say, 20 hours later and you still get nothing because the PPLNS window has closed.

So I figured an almost guaranteed loss of 9% was better than, say, randomly getting nailed for a 100% loss.

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February 04, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
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@MagicSmoker - It doesn't really matter what you mine as long as it's similarly profitable (just sell it on the exchange and buy what you want). Even if not, two days with a single card makes almost no difference, especially if the primary interest is in getting a more accurate test result which could help you improve your profits far more than that in the future. Mining zec is quite all right. Give Flypool a try I say Wink

As for luckpool: 2 MH/s is still measly. Interesting that you prefer an almost sure loss of 9% but are at the same time bothered (like I am) about 5% difference in miner performance ... or perhaps you dislike scammers as much as I do Smiley

I'll be busy the coming week, but will eventually release that proxy to allow more accurate comparisons of miners without wasting profits. I'm even thinking of having the proxy upload anonymous results on a public space at github for everyone to see (it will all be open source). If anyone is skimming, they need to be exposed. This community has been taken advantage of far too much.
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February 04, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
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@MagicSmoker - It doesn't really matter what you mine as long as it's similarly profitable (just sell it on the exchange and buy what you want). Even if not, two days with a single card makes almost no difference, especially if the primary interest is in getting a more accurate test result which could help you improve your profits far more than that in the future. Mining zec is quite all right. Give Flypool a try I say Wink

As for luckpool: 2 MH/s is still measly. Interesting that you prefer an almost sure loss of 9% but are at the same time bothered (like I am) about 5% difference in miner performance ... or perhaps you dislike scammers as much as I do Smiley

I know, I know - the whole point to what I am doing with these two cards right now is co I can avoid underutilizing my one real mining rig (which is still not all that impressive on account of the GPU shortage - just 6x GTX 1060). As for luckpool, I was holding out some hope that I would eventually win a block myself (yet I scoff at playing the lottery... go figure).

But I do loathe scammers, and I especially loathe paying to be someone's beta tester. Check back through my posts to this thread for evidence of that...  Grin


I'll be busy the coming week, but will eventually release that proxy to allow more accurate comparisons of miners without wasting profits. I'm even thinking of having the proxy upload anonymous results on a public space at github for everyone to see (it will all be open source). If anyone is skimming, they need to be exposed. This community has been taken advantage of far too much.

This sounds exceptionally useful. Something like TCPView except filtering out all of the traffic that isn't related to the miner and tallying up the results?

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February 05, 2018, 03:51:49 AM
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@MagicSmoker - It doesn't really matter what you mine as long as it's similarly profitable (just sell it on the exchange and buy what you want). Even if not, two days with a single card makes almost no difference, especially if the primary interest is in getting a more accurate test result which could help you improve your profits far more than that in the future. Mining zec is quite all right. Give Flypool a try I say Wink

As for luckpool: 2 MH/s is still measly. Interesting that you prefer an almost sure loss of 9% but are at the same time bothered (like I am) about 5% difference in miner performance ... or perhaps you dislike scammers as much as I do Smiley

I'll be busy the coming week, but will eventually release that proxy to allow more accurate comparisons of miners without wasting profits. I'm even thinking of having the proxy upload anonymous results on a public space at github for everyone to see (it will all be open source). If anyone is skimming, they need to be exposed. This community has been taken advantage of far too much.

make sure you add your crypto address so we can drop you some donations. this is something i'm surprised no one has done yet and would love to see ACTUAL numbers.

pre-thanks!
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February 05, 2018, 04:08:34 AM
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Interesting, i didn't think until now there would be much interest. I had coded the entire proxy quite a while ago, and have been using it internally in our farm. It's a pretty general stratum proxy that works for most equihash pools and some ethereum ones, probably others too. Will just need to add per-client stats. then you connect one rig running dstm, another running bminer, another running ewbf, etc (and whatever else you want) and have running stats stats over a set of predefined windows, or since connection time.

We'd have to think about how to prevent "fake stats" (sad...). Open source normally means anyone can submit bogus data and I wouldn't want the miner's buddies to make some miner look better than it actually is. Some form of validation would be desirable. Maybe do it invite-based at first to folks here who are interested before opening it to the public. Or issue auth keys (sort of like unique invites).
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February 05, 2018, 07:23:17 AM
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realbminer,
Can you please add some parameter to disable updates check when bminer starts? This ip seems to be blocked by my isp for some reason, and every time I launch miner or it restarts, it spends some time trying to connect to updates server.
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February 05, 2018, 11:22:37 AM
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make sure you add your crypto address so we can drop you some donations. this is something i'm surprised no one has done yet and would love to see ACTUAL numbers.

pre-thanks!

Aww, thanks, but no tips are necessary. I was going to build a 6x 1080 rig with these 2 1080s, but these were all I could buy before prices went full retard so I decided to use them to do a bunch of head-to-head comparisons of miners and pools while waiting to get 4 more.

Because of the comments @cryotoyes made about Luckpool not being the best choice for this test (or, really, the best choice of pool at all...) I'm going to repeat the comparison Yet Again, except mining ZEC on Flypool. It turned out that what @cryptoyes warned about occurred - that luck on a per-share basis, as well as variable difficulty, can skew the results enough to render them pointless.

In this case, the average hashrate reported on the pool side was 547 for bminer and 532 for dstm, or 2.8% higher for bminer. However, dstm earned slightly more ZEN, at 0.10776779 for dstm vs. 0.10643226 for bminer, of 1.25% more for dstm. Both of these metrics can't be true unless dstm got slightly more difficult shares and/or had slightly better luck at solving them.

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February 05, 2018, 12:38:19 PM
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well @MagicSmoker you was asking about other poll sadly for equilash algo there are not soo many good one each have they'r flow & issue but best is to find what it best for you & your mining power

Personal i wish nanopool to implement more coin coz from all my mining experience i think is one of most stable, reliable & with good info about statistic but well this is my personal preference, flypool is same good one but they came in my second preference

What is important is to have a good steady Hpower (preferable to not encourage pool hopper or horde algoritm jumper), steady amount miner & good ping for your mining rig (this is most important)

few other pool what i use:
- suprnova is fine but ocminer it have a very nasty api / web interface what bring info / statistic what can't be use at all
- miningpoolhub it have bad & good thing in same time a extremly customize amount of cash out, in what type you want to cash out (auto exchange), api is a little better but with some big delay sometime ... what i not like is fact it encourage horde jumping algoritm & if you want to be a focus miner to a specific coin when big pack of jumper came it can ruin your work if you are a small miner

away find what is best for your needs, what me or other say it can be subjective perspective

p.s. sorry for off topic speaking other way about bminer feedback Smiley
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February 05, 2018, 06:34:15 PM
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Приветствую! Русскоязычные есть в этой ветке?
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February 05, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
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Okay, comparison #3 started about 20 minutes ago concurrently mining ZEC on Flypool using a fixed difficulty of 10000 (by using the switch "-p 10000").

If you like watching paint dry then you will surely love to check on the status of the miners:

dstm: https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1aoQJwvJqYT32xHVpYezWBxKuxPSwaJB1h
bminer: https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1dU7Gve41A3b4mxL7a3oVAnBLsF9kMgDgA

I created these two addresses just for this test so they are starting from 0.

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February 05, 2018, 07:34:25 PM
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Can you share your batch file for bminer on flypool? I cant get it to work on flypool for some reason. Also, what cards are you using?

http://www.changer.com/?refid=218450
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February 05, 2018, 08:11:03 PM
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hi mate,

i dont get the miner to start if i want to deactivate my 1st GPU. I have 5GPUs in my Rig.
is it the -devices value?


This dont work:


@echo OFF

REM Change the following address to your Zcash taddr.

SET ADDRESS=t1RZpCpUurCoijUcaydfagdffhgadfsdf

SET USERNAME=%ADDRESS%.w

SET POOL=eu1-zcash.flypool.org:3333

SET SCHEME=stratum

START "Bminer: When Crypto-mining Made Fast" bminer.exe -uri %SCHEME%://%USERNAME%@%POOL% -api 127.0.0.1:1880 -devices value 1,2,3,4





please can someone send me an example?




**Solved... dont type in "value" **

START "Bminer: When Crypto-mining Made Fast" bminer.exe -uri %SCHEME%://%USERNAME%@%POOL% -api 127.0.0.1:1880 -devices 1,2,3,4
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February 05, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
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Can you share your batch file for bminer on flypool? I cant get it to work on flypool for some reason. Also, what cards are you using?

Here ya go:

bminer -no-timestamps -uri stratum://t1dU7Gve41A3b4mxL7a3oVAnBLsF9kMgDgA.eleusis2:10000@us1-zcash.flypool.org:3333

Obviously change the ZEC address and worker name. This fixes difficulty at 10000, too (theoretically, anyway).

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February 06, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
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make sure you add your crypto address so we can drop you some donations. this is something i'm surprised no one has done yet and would love to see ACTUAL numbers.

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Aww, thanks, but no tips are necessary.

i think he was talking to me Smiley

I was going to build a 6x 1080 rig with these 2 1080s, but these were all I could buy before prices went full retard so I decided to use them to do a bunch of head-to-head comparisons of miners and pools while waiting to get 4 more.

Because of the comments @cryotoyes made about Luckpool not being the best choice for this test (or, really, the best choice of pool at all...) I'm going to repeat the comparison Yet Again, except mining ZEC on Flypool. It turned out that what @cryptoyes warned about occurred - that luck on a per-share basis, as well as variable difficulty, can skew the results enough to render them pointless.

In this case, the average hashrate reported on the pool side was 547 for bminer and 532 for dstm, or 2.8% higher for bminer. However, dstm earned slightly more ZEN, at 0.10776779 for dstm vs. 0.10643226 for bminer, of 1.25% more for dstm. Both of these metrics can't be true unless dstm got slightly more difficult shares and/or had slightly better luck at solving them.

What you just experienced is the "lovely" PPLNS payout scheme (each block is different in length and each miner gets different shares in) ... like I said, you really should stop looking at payouts - when doing such short term tests, and with such low hashrates.

I guess I really need to finish that proxy

EDIT: 10k difficulty is too high for a single card ... you'd introduc more variability like this. You want frequent shares, but not too frequent. Lower diff such that the average share submission time you see reported by the miner is around 5 seconds if you have a good ping to flypool (< 50 ms) or 10 seconds if your ping to flypool is closer to 100 ms
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February 06, 2018, 12:51:46 AM
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Whats requirements system for this to run? I have it successfully running on one PC, but on a different PC it doesn't even start. It throws no errors, so I don't know where to even begin....

                                                                               
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February 06, 2018, 01:10:16 AM
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What you just experienced is the "lovely" PPLNS payout scheme (each block is different in length and each miner gets different shares in) ... like I said, you really should stop looking at payouts - when doing such short term tests, and with such low hashrates.

I guess I really need to finish that proxy

EDIT: 10k difficulty is too high for a single card ... you'd introduc more variability like this. You want frequent shares, but not too frequent. Lower diff such that the average share submission time you see reported by the miner is around 5 seconds if you have a good ping to flypool (< 50 ms) or 10 seconds if your ping to flypool is closer to 100 ms

Alright, let's cut to the chase: how much hashrate do I need to deploy for a valid test in your opinion, and how long do I need to run it for on Flypool? Because as of right now it appears I am wasting my time and electricity when I don't want to mine ZEC in the first place.

Note that the minimum difficulty on flypool appears to be 8000 now, so setting it to 10k wasn't really a stretch, and you did say that fixed difficulty would give more accurate results.

Ping time is 16ms, so very good.
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February 06, 2018, 01:20:14 AM
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What you just experienced is the "lovely" PPLNS payout scheme (each block is different in length and each miner gets different shares in) ... like I said, you really should stop looking at payouts - when doing such short term tests, and with such low hashrates.

I guess I really need to finish that proxy

EDIT: 10k difficulty is too high for a single card ... you'd introduc more variability like this. You want frequent shares, but not too frequent. Lower diff such that the average share submission time you see reported by the miner is around 5 seconds if you have a good ping to flypool (< 50 ms) or 10 seconds if your ping to flypool is closer to 100 ms

Alright, let's cut to the chase: how much hashrate do I need to deploy for a valid test in your opinion, and how long do I need to run it for on Flypool? Because as of right now it appears I am wasting my time and electricity when I don't want to mine ZEC in the first place.

Note that the minimum difficulty on flypool appears to be 8000 now, so setting it to 10k wasn't really a stretch, and you did say that fixed difficulty would give more accurate results.

Ping time is 16ms, so very good.

I explained just above, in the EDIT, what you should do if you want to go forward with this test. Also, Flypool says they default to 2000 difficulty. Aim for 5-10 seconds share submission time, so lower the difficulty, start the miner, and time the first 5 minutes. If you get fewer than 30 submitted shares, decrease difficulty. If you get higher than 60, increase difficulty. Once you're done, fix it for both dstm and bminer, and let it rip for 24h. Don't forget that stales matter as they aren't paid, so make a note of the number of stale shares at the end (there were reports that bminer has a high stale share rate). High hashrate is useless if accepted share rate isn't improved.

And to remove your frustration, I'm happy to sponsor you for 24h worth of mined Zen with 2x1080Ti. Send me your zen address.

You asked about how much hashrate: as much as possible given you can't make the time window longer than 24h at Flypool ...

EDIT: you should also ensure that the two rigs/cards give the same hashrate with the same miner (i.e. there is no variability between rigs).
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February 06, 2018, 01:52:41 AM
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is this miner legit?
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February 06, 2018, 03:00:39 AM
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Okay, comparison #3 started about 20 minutes ago concurrently mining ZEC on Flypool using a fixed difficulty of 10000 (by using the switch "-p 10000").

If you like watching paint dry then you will surely love to check on the status of the miners:

dstm: https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1aoQJwvJqYT32xHVpYezWBxKuxPSwaJB1h
bminer: https://zcash.flypool.org/miners/t1dU7Gve41A3b4mxL7a3oVAnBLsF9kMgDgA

I created these two addresses just for this test so they are starting from 0.


Just a thought... What if one card performs better than the other? (Silicon lottery). Will you interchange miners for those cards on your next experiment?
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