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December 14, 2017, 07:23:39 PM
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where can I found whitepaper?
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December 14, 2017, 07:47:49 PM
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Any projections on token behaviour after ico? I don't remember seeing it on the site.
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December 14, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
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where can I found whitepaper?

The whitepaper for the TGE can be found on the following link: http://bit.ly/2B0e6fd

It can also be found at the top of our website: https://x8currency.com/

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December 14, 2017, 08:37:17 PM
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If you invest in limited, can you invest in crowdsale then too?
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December 14, 2017, 08:40:40 PM
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Any projections on token behaviour after ico? I don't remember seeing it on the site.
There are no projections on the site, but there is a blog post about the price estimates and different factors behind it. https://www.ionectar.com/business-model-of-the-x8-utility-token/

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December 14, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
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If you invest in limited, can you invest in crowdsale then too?
Of course, anyone who goes successfuly through the KYC process can.

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December 14, 2017, 09:30:00 PM
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So i see connection between X8X and X8C. What will be the X8X price from you company after the ico?
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- Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Thursday, 4th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 6th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET

WHat is mean Limited in this case?
Limited to a certain number of participants, or limited to a certain amount of funds?
The limited whitelist presale means individual contribution will be limited. The limits will be announced before the presale.

Oh thanks for pointing that out, I'm quite confused about that as well anyway why did you decide to limit the number of participants who can join the pre-sale? Don't you think that will restrict this project from being available to a larger market? It's always a known fact that conducting a pre-sale is a way for a project to get introduced to the cryptocurrency world, it's both a fundraising and a promotional campaign, that's why a lot of projects offers bonuses and discounts to gain a lot of attention from the cyprocurrency community. So by limiting the number of participants, that will make this project quite isolated to other cyprocurrency enthusiasts and it will be hard for this project to be known by a lot of people if only a few can participate because most likely if people are not part of the community then they will just most likely forget about the project and move on to the next, don't get me wrong I like this idea but I just think that it's not the best move especially now that you're just starting to gain an audience.

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December 14, 2017, 10:52:51 PM
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So i see connection between X8X and X8C. What will be the X8X price from you company after the ico?
After the  TGE X8X stored for institutional reserve will be sold at 0.1€ per token. If the market price at the time of selling is higher, they will be sold at market price.

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December 14, 2017, 10:57:00 PM
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- Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Thursday, 4th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 6th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET

WHat is mean Limited in this case?
Limited to a certain number of participants, or limited to a certain amount of funds?
The limited whitelist presale means individual contribution will be limited. The limits will be announced before the presale.

Oh thanks for pointing that out, I'm quite confused about that as well anyway why did you decide to limit the number of participants who can join the pre-sale? Don't you think that will restrict this project from being available to a larger market? It's always a known fact that conducting a pre-sale is a way for a project to get introduced to the cryptocurrency world, it's both a fundraising and a promotional campaign, that's why a lot of projects offers bonuses and discounts to gain a lot of attention from the cyprocurrency community. So by limiting the number of participants, that will make this project quite isolated to other cyprocurrency enthusiasts and it will be hard for this project to be known by a lot of people if only a few can participate because most likely if people are not part of the community then they will just most likely forget about the project and move on to the next, don't get me wrong I like this idea but I just think that it's not the best move especially now that you're just starting to gain an audience.
The whitelist is not limited in participants. The contribution of the first phase is. It is in our interest to achieve wide dispersion of the X8X token. With that aim we will also set the limits of the limited whitelist presale. Also, there is more to come in terms of making the token known in the following days and weeks:)

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December 14, 2017, 11:00:50 PM
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KYC BEGINS AND TGE TIMELINE FINALISED

Dear X8 project supporters and fans!
We are happy to announce that the X8 project has successfully implemented the KYC procedure in cooperation with the provider, which is capable of delivering services in accordance with Swiss FINMA guidelines on the matter.
This solution means that the X8 project further increases the standard, strengthening the Swiss base which has already been established. This solution meets strict requirements and ensures the best position for the project and the necessary level of business compliance for it to engage with institutions as well.
The procedure will take participants through a guided video verification of personal documents and will require each one to fill in and upload the required AML forms in the pdf format during the procedure. X8 project will raise funds during the pre-sale and crowdsale in line with Swiss KYC/AML requirements and will be one of the first TGEs to meet this level of transparency and compliance with all existing rules and regulations.
Because of these relatively high requirements, which also in turn makes the X8X Utility Token a better and more valuable token, we decided to give our contributors enough time to complete the KYC in full within a comfortable time period. Furthermore, based on legal advice we received in regard to recent Ethereum congestion, this will help the project to protect contributors and reduce the risk of not being able to contribute if potentially another or a similar Ethereum congestion event takes place during the TGE stages. As a result, we are presenting the extended timeline for the TGE.
 
X8X TGE Timeline:
 
 - Whitelist registration is ongoing
 - KYC instruction video and text will be published on Sunday, 17th Dec
 - KYC for registered Whitelist members starts live on Monday, 18th Dec
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Thursday, 4th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 6th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - 2-day break
 - Unlimited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Monday, 8th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Unlimited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Wednesday, 10th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - 2-day break
 - Crowdsale starts on Friday, 12th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Last Registration/KYC open date: 20th Jan 2018
 - Crowdsale ends on Monday, 22th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 

This is the final timeline of the TGE of the X8 project. Details and instructions will be provided and published on the existing X8 project channels.
We invite you to join us in the TGE and to obtain your X8X tokens!
Looks like interesting project, since projects are requiring Know your clients (KYC) and Anti-Money Laundering (AML) because consumer protection was really clear. Do have any updates after this for this week?

I hope that this project will become attractive to the eye of more investors.
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Looks like interesting project, since projects are requiring Know your clients (KYC) and Anti-Money Laundering (AML) because consumer protection was really clear. Do have any updates after this for this week?

I hope that this project will become attractive to the eye of more investors.

Stay tuned. There are some exciting things coming up shortly;)

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December 15, 2017, 08:40:08 AM
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What is the technology behind the x8c? You say it is working already, but there is no x8c??
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December 15, 2017, 10:47:04 AM
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What is the technology behind the x8c? You say it is working already, but there is no x8c??

The technology behind X8C is called ARM AI. There is a special whitepaper just about it available: https://x8currency.com/wp-content/uploads/X8-and-ARM-Technology-whitepaper.pdf
This technology is also already available for institutions or HNWIs but not embedded in a token on blockchain.

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December 15, 2017, 12:15:27 PM
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LEGAL ASPECTS OF X8X
What is a Utility Token? Is X8X really a Utility Token? Where are the arguments?

For too long, the question of the legal status of cryptocurrencies was neglected or even ignored.
Lately, with the USA establishing better control and China even banning crypto until further notice,
the crypto world has begun to acknowledge that rules and legislation have to be studied carefully
and legal measures have to be undertaken. It is not only the case that ICOs have to subordinate
to the laws of the country where their issuing company is established, but they have to become
responsible towards their investors and explore the legal aspects of their crypto token
in those countries where investors live and pay taxes.

There were several attempts to unite the standards for the legal status of Digital Assets (“DAs”),
but for now countries around the globe treat DAs quite differently. Although we can make some
general conclusions or summaries, we should not expect all tax, law enforcement and regulatory
entities to share the same view or position.

A generally accepted view, based on many articles, legal advice and reports divides digital crypto DAs into 3 groups:

1. Cryptocurrencies
2. Utility Tokens
3. Tokenized Securities

There is no strict definition of each group and there are some assets, that share similarities with more than just one group.

Cryptocurrencies
Similar to fiat currencies such as the Euro and the US Dollar, the main purpose of cryptocurrencies is to carry value and enable
transactions of value possible. That does not mean, that other crypto assets represent no value. The argument is in substance, in the main purpose.

It can be arguable as to what is the actual intrinsic value of cryptocurrencies, although some make a very
 quick conclusion: “The true value of a cryptocurrency is in the trust of its owners and users.” If trust is lost,
deliberately or accidentally, cryptocurrencies usually lose all value and exchange rates plummet rapidly.
The opposite conclusion is not necessary true, cryptocurrencies with extremely good records and valuation
do not necessarily own public trust, as market speculation can still dictate the fate of exchange rates.

Cryptocurrencies usually have the ambition to become a payment vehicle, which means that owners
can buy other monetary or physical assets with these cryptocurrencies. Therefore, it is expected for t
hese cryptocurrencies to have a broad pool of owners, large enough to create its own economy, where
people trade goods and assets. Nevertheless, cryptocurrencies can have very unique digital encryption
techniques to reach consensus on approved transactions, often inextricably linked with the process of
issuance. Some of these mechanisms (e.g. staking) can bring some cryptocurrencies very close to the definition of securities.

Generally, if a DA shares most of its features with fiat currency then you are probably looking at a cryptocurrency.

Utility Tokens
Nomen est omen. These DAs are mainly used for utilization of a service. You can imagine them as a
ticket or counter, that allows an owner to use a certain number of service functionalities, to gain certain
data, acquire better insight or upgrade. Therefore these tokens carry value, but usually the issuer is
quite indifferent or agnostic towards its trading value. The DA issuer should not be in a conflict of interest.
A utility token must be freely available to all potential users of the respected service or utility. Groups of users
can be smaller, usability can be pegged to a limited number of service providers.

But, what about the number of DAs in circulation? Can these utilities become securities, if you remove,
destroy or permanently lock or keep a certain amount of DAs, thus decreasing the number of DAs in circulation?
It is not definitive, lawyers tend to study a DA’s model closely before making any conclusion. Even buy-back
plans and programs, where an issuer returns some of the profit to a DA’s owners can be problematic, although
some (EU) legislations would classify these DAs as profit-sharing contracts.

The issuer of such a DA would not consider his ICO as an “investment opportunity”, but rather as a
“contributions to the cause”. Many startup companies found issuing their own DAs a very convenient
method to raise funds to build their infrastructure and ecosystems. The main purpose of distributing
their DAs is to grow a community of potential service users.

Tokenized security
As for the USA, the Securities and Exchange Commision (“SEC”) announced a general test that decides,
if a DA should be considered as a security. The definition is reduced to simple questions, that make up the Hovey test:

● Is it an investment of money or assets?

● Is the investment of money or assets in a common enterprise?

● Is there an expectation of profits from the investment?

● Does any profit come from the efforts of a promoter or third party?

If the business model of the DA offers affirmative answers to these questions, the DA should d
efinitely be treated as a Security and thus comply with wider legislation. It does not mean, that
this DA is illegal, it just has to be registered with and overviewed by the SEC.

If you look for an ultimate confirmation, you should observe investor activity. If the profits arise
and are distributed without the need of investor to actively cooperate or contribute with knowledge,
actions or informations, then the DA is most likely a tokenized security.


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December 15, 2017, 05:18:27 PM
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Guys you seem you pulled it off-a real utility token. Hope that counts for somethig in the future. Thanx for posting anyway.
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December 15, 2017, 05:35:35 PM
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Okay, I am signed up to X8X whitelist. I will wait until 6th january. Now is ETH price growing up, maybe you can drop the criterion of 1ETH per minimal investment. You can get more "small" investors. why do not you allow them the possibility to contribute?
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December 15, 2017, 06:24:33 PM
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- Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Thursday, 4th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 6th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET

WHat is mean Limited in this case?
Limited to a certain number of participants, or limited to a certain amount of funds?
The limited whitelist presale means individual contribution will be limited. The limits will be announced before the presale.

Oh thanks for pointing that out, I'm quite confused about that as well anyway why did you decide to limit the number of participants who can join the pre-sale? Don't you think that will restrict this project from being available to a larger market? It's always a known fact that conducting a pre-sale is a way for a project to get introduced to the cryptocurrency world, it's both a fundraising and a promotional campaign, that's why a lot of projects offers bonuses and discounts to gain a lot of attention from the cyprocurrency community. So by limiting the number of participants, that will make this project quite isolated to other cyprocurrency enthusiasts and it will be hard for this project to be known by a lot of people if only a few can participate because most likely if people are not part of the community then they will just most likely forget about the project and move on to the next, don't get me wrong I like this idea but I just think that it's not the best move especially now that you're just starting to gain an audience.
The whitelist is not limited in participants. The contribution of the first phase is. It is in our interest to achieve wide dispersion of the X8X token. With that aim we will also set the limits of the limited whitelist presale. Also, there is more to come in terms of making the token known in the following days and weeks:)

Sorry mate but I'm quite confuse what do you mean the contribution of the first phase? Does this refer to the amount of funds that each participants may contribute? Or does this refer to something else?. That's good to know, I'm glad we're on the same wavelength with this one, it's always best to reach as many people as possible because you never know how many from a crowd of people is willing to invest and to take part in this project. Can I ask why set limits? Is this favorable to the project in any way? And how can these limits benefit the investors?. That's great that you already got some marketing plans for this project, a good marketing always comes a long way, so what are your plans? Will you eventually have a bounty? And do you have like teams assigned to do the promotion for this project?

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- Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Thursday, 4th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
 - Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 6th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET

WHat is mean Limited in this case?
Limited to a certain number of participants, or limited to a certain amount of funds?
The limited whitelist presale means individual contribution will be limited. The limits will be announced before the presale.

Oh thanks for pointing that out, I'm quite confused about that as well anyway why did you decide to limit the number of participants who can join the pre-sale? Don't you think that will restrict this project from being available to a larger market? It's always a known fact that conducting a pre-sale is a way for a project to get introduced to the cryptocurrency world, it's both a fundraising and a promotional campaign, that's why a lot of projects offers bonuses and discounts to gain a lot of attention from the cyprocurrency community. So by limiting the number of participants, that will make this project quite isolated to other cyprocurrency enthusiasts and it will be hard for this project to be known by a lot of people if only a few can participate because most likely if people are not part of the community then they will just most likely forget about the project and move on to the next, don't get me wrong I like this idea but I just think that it's not the best move especially now that you're just starting to gain an audience.
The whitelist is not limited in participants. The contribution of the first phase is. It is in our interest to achieve wide dispersion of the X8X token. With that aim we will also set the limits of the limited whitelist presale. Also, there is more to come in terms of making the token known in the following days and weeks:)

Sorry mate but I'm quite confuse what do you mean the contribution of the first phase? Does this refer to the amount of funds that each participants may contribute? Or does this refer to something else?. That's good to know, I'm glad we're on the same wavelength with this one, it's always best to reach as many people as possible because you never know how many from a crowd of people is willing to invest and to take part in this project. Can I ask why set limits? Is this favorable to the project in any way? And how can these limits benefit the investors?. That's great that you already got some marketing plans for this project, a good marketing always comes a long way, so what are your plans? Will you eventually have a bounty? And do you have like teams assigned to do the promotion for this project?

I expect in first phase some bonuses or lower price per token that it will be in ICO period.
I think they have no any bounty for now.
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December 15, 2017, 10:13:13 PM
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Okay, I am signed up to X8X whitelist. I will wait until 6th january. Now is ETH price growing up, maybe you can drop the criterion of 1ETH per minimal investment. You can get more "small" investors. why do not you allow them the possibility to contribute?

The actual individual hard cap limits for the limited whitelist phase will be announced one day prior to the start of the TGE. Thus, the minimum contribution has not been fixed yet. The 1 ETH amount is only a reference.

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