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December 18, 2017, 04:56:15 PM
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will this one handle 4x r9 290 or 4x r9 390?
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It's not the best PSU you could find. Go for Delta DPS-1200 (any modification that has only +12V output is good).
PicoPSU - 180/250 W
Breakout - at least with 3 oz copper, look for it to have beefy connectors
I won't advise any cables, many of them are crap, especially the cheap ones.

Is this the same as the standart dps-1200? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-700-1200W-Power-Supply-DPS-1200ABA/331650462356?hash=item4d37e87294:g:Fq8AAOSwZ4dZMEdk
there are many variations dps-1200fb, dps-1200TB etc. Are all the same? also the breakout board fits all of them or there is specific designed breakout board for each variation?
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December 18, 2017, 06:15:12 PM
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there are many variations dps-1200fb, dps-1200TB etc. Are all the same? also the breakout board fits all of them or there is specific designed breakout board for each variation?
Stick with DPS-1200FB, it's the most suitable PSU for your needs, IMO. There is plenty of breakout boards available for this model.

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December 18, 2017, 08:09:44 PM
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About the first mod every reference 290(x) owner should do:



After that is done and you still want more you need to start playing with bios.

It will never be a powersaver but still a very profitable card to mine with.

 About the first "mod" any high-end blower model card with a bloody DVI connector should do is to pull that bloody airflow blocking mounting plate OFF (if it's in a riser rig and doesn't use the mounting holes part).

 Helps a lot on 1080 blower models too, though my ASUS 1080ti blower card doesn't have a DVI connector and doesn't really need the mod.

 Also helped noticeably on the one Sapphire "mining" card I got that had the congested "original" type mounting plate instead of the later models that opened up that mounting plate.


 "Cannot find any AMD adapters" is probably a DRIVER crash that took more than a fractional second to "recover".




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December 18, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
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Hi guys, I am looking to get some more gpus for mining.
Currently I have 5x r9 390x, 1x 1080ti , 1x gtx980 and 5x r9 380.
r9 290 4GB caught my attention because is pretty cheap on ebay and powerful,  I read that has about 380 sol/s with overclocking in zec/zen/btg, is this true?
The same hashrate I get also on my overclocked gtx980 so I am in a dilemma what gpu to get because also gtx980 is about the same price used but sucks in ethereum mining,so I'll have to stick with equihash algorithm.

Can I achieve this hashrate with any r9 290 or some brands are voltage locked?

also has anyone measured  how much is exactly the power draw from an overclocked r9 290?
I am looking to get the asus b250 mining expert to fill all 19 gpu slots with r9 290s but how many PSU will I need and how much wattage each? can I use this one? https://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-BladeCenter-Netzteil-2450W-High-Efficiency-C7000-500242-001-488603-001/372154727230?hash=item56a6267b3e:g:df0AAOSw0W5aH~Kt


 R9 290 is generally going to make you more money mining ETH, where it is a legitimate 29-30 Mhash card but will easily pull 250-300 watts per card to get to that hashrate in most cases.
 I'm not sure what kind of power usage they have mining ZEC as I never had mine doing that for more than a very short period of time during the EARLY ZEC days last year.

 3 of those Bladecenter PS should be plenty, if you can find the right breakout boards for them to make them usable.

 2 would probably be viable, they should be able to handle about 8 cards each PCI-E AND riser - depends on how big an ATX supply you use to run the MB itself and how many of the cards the ATX supply can run.


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December 18, 2017, 10:57:50 PM
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ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
This error has nothing to do with the internet connection. Check for driver issues.

"Cannot find any AMD adapters" is probably a DRIVER crash that took more than a fractional second to "recover".

That message, is throughout all of my logs. All the time. :/ Right now it's running 8 hours straight after completely disabling any windows updates from registry. Previously I had it, "ask me when to download". But that "ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters" message is still there all the time. Tomorrow if it keeps running overnight I''m gonna go back to the blockchain drivers. I'm also gonna pull an Ethernet cable to make my connection 100% stable.
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December 18, 2017, 11:32:42 PM
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I'm using 16.11.5 drivers for 290 series@W10, they just don't like drivers later than that. Basic DDU + reinstall should help, MSI afterburner also needs some settings to be enabled.

@QuintLeo Yes that plate is annoying, wonder why someone who disassembles ref cooler doesn't get rid of it. I mean, you can always put it back...
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December 19, 2017, 12:04:24 AM
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I'm using 16.11.5 drivers for 290 series@W10, they just don't like drivers later than that. Basic DDU + reinstall should help, MSI afterburner also needs some settings to be enabled.

@QuintLeo Yes that plate is annoying, wonder why someone who disassembles ref cooler doesn't get rid of it. I mean, you can always put it back...

I installed Sapphire Trixx instead of MSI afterburner because I was thinking maybe that program was the problem. :/
Why don't use use the blockchain ones?
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December 19, 2017, 08:37:51 AM
Last edit: December 19, 2017, 09:34:31 AM by bassistas
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there are many variations dps-1200fb, dps-1200TB etc. Are all the same? also the breakout board fits all of them or there is specific designed breakout board for each variation?
Stick with DPS-1200FB, it's the most suitable PSU for your needs, IMO. There is plenty of breakout boards available for this model.

ok, so I am ready to order all the appropriate parts but as far as I understand, to make each of my rig work I need: a separate cheap 300w standard atx psu (about $20) just for the motherboard, a DPS-1200FB ($69) the cheapest I can find now on ebay (which is actually the DPS-1200FB-1, dont know if its the same) https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-1200W-Power-Supply-578322-B21-579229-001-570451-001-570451-101-DPS-1200FB-1/232579507890?hash=item3626d1a6b2:g:81IAAOSwqiVaHttv to power 4x r9 290/390 gpus on each rig, a breakout board ($8.19) and the pci-e cables ($29.99) . Or instead of the standard atx psu, a pico psu adapter ($49) to power the motherboard from the server psu. Am I correct?
So, if I sum it all, the cost isn't so low as I  initially thought.  Its roughly  $127. On newegg I can find some 1200W standard atx psus for the same amount of money and I will also have warranty. So whats the point to go for the server psu? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2J53KH0075
I need to setup about 16-17 rigs with 4x gpus each. So I am looking to keep the psu cost as low as possible but also to have reliability. Maybe there are some good server psu alternatives that are even cheaper and will do the job just fine or this is the cheapest I can go for my use?

For example I just found this monster on ebay for less cost than the DPS-1200FB. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-M1000e-Server-2700W-Switching-Power-Supply-E2700P-00-TJJ3M/302565706413?epid=21005587000&hash=item4672524aad:g:sDUAAOSw8UZaMw92
With this one I could feed 2 or 3 rigs at the same time, But are there any breakout boards for this? I cant find any
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December 19, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
Last edit: December 19, 2017, 04:19:32 PM by RealKariverson
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Yesterday the rig worked for 12 hours straight. New record, but still something happened while I was asleep.

04:55:12:889   1188   ETH: Share accepted (94 ms)!

04:55:12:889   1188   new buf size: 0
04:55:12:920   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:12:920   180c   em hbt: 0, fm hbt: 47,
04:55:12:920   180c   watchdog - thread 0 (gpu0), hb time 328
04:55:12:936   180c   watchdog - thread 1 (gpu0), hb time 140
04:55:12:936   180c   watchdog - thread 2 (gpu1), hb time 171
04:55:12:936   180c   watchdog - thread 3 (gpu1), hb time 343
04:55:12:936   180c   watchdog - thread 4 (gpu2), hb time 46
04:55:12:952   180c   watchdog - thread 5 (gpu2), hb time 250
04:55:12:952   180c   watchdog - thread 6 (gpu3), hb time 234
04:55:12:952   180c   watchdog - thread 7 (gpu3), hb time 47
04:55:12:952   180c   watchdog - thread 8 (gpu4), hb time 47
04:55:12:967   180c   watchdog - thread 9 (gpu4), hb time 282
04:55:12:967   180c   watchdog - thread 10 (gpu5), hb time 297
04:55:12:967   180c   watchdog - thread 11 (gpu5), hb time 78
04:55:13:749   1188   ETH: checking pool connection...
04:55:13:749   1188   send: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

04:55:13:842   1188   got 248 bytes
04:55:13:842   1188   buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0xdebce9c6359ad9a76860c3d61eeacfa9468dec29c19096eb8575a3b49123be79","0x9d2e3fc27256471aefd0ac060863e72fa7ca01ae239f872242f7c9797c1eb775","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x4898b9"]}

04:55:13:842   1188   parse packet: 247
04:55:13:842   1188   ETH: job is the same
04:55:13:842   1188   new buf size: 0
04:55:17:530   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:18:077   2248   recv: 60
04:55:18:093   2248   srv pck: 59
04:55:19:718   2248   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:19:718   2248   srv bs: 0
04:55:19:734   2248   sent: 190
04:55:22:343   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:23:765   1188   ETH: checking pool connection...
04:55:23:765   1188   send: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

04:55:24:578   1188   send: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"eth_submitHashrate","params":["0x7ce67c5", "0x000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000006b073ac5"]}

04:55:26:672   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:32:797   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:33:782   1188   ETH: checking pool connection...
04:55:34:688   1188   send: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

04:55:41:814   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters
04:55:48:362   1188   ETH: Stratum - socket send failed 10054, disconnect
04:55:59:738   180c   ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters

This is my bat. file:

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal 0xD2F39eC8d4161019428395a8136793BC4E3c9C33.Rig1 -epsw x

BTW my meter came. Corsair link wattage indication is pretty accurate!

Also I downloaded the new version of claymore. They say it fixes some stuff. Hope it helps.


- fixed critical issues in remote management feature (attacker could crash miner even in read-only mode).
- now miner supports up to #299 epoch.
- in rare cases ADL API calls can hang, now watchdog checks it as well.

Also, my old HP mouse died somehow. From the cold?

I watched some more tutorials on how to setup claymore. I saw one guy that set the variables on system variables on windows. I did that too now. I downloaded and installed the beta drivers again. And I started it again 20 minutes ago. The "ADL: Cannot find any AMD adapters" thingy that was all over the place in all the logs, now it's gone. Haven't seen it once in these 20 minutes. I have a good feeling about this now.
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December 19, 2017, 05:50:03 PM
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So, if I sum it all, the cost isn't so low as I  initially thought.  Its roughly  $127. On newegg I can find some 1200W standard atx psus for the same amount of money and I will also have warranty. So whats the point to go for the server psu? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2J53KH0075
Server PSUs are the best choice when you are able to DIY and source cheap components. A fully DIY wired PSU w/Pico will cost ~85-100$ in material (DPS-1200FB), labor cost - YMMV.
Frankly DIY seems to be not your case, so better stick with ATX power supplies.

You'll find cheap breakout boards only for DPS-1200FB and the likes. Because they are Chinese.
There exist breakout boards for beefier power supplies - DPS-2000BB, IBM 2980W, etc. They cost >40 USD.
Link: http://www.gekkoscience.com/products/IBM2K_board.html

I will reiterate - if you feel unsure to modify server PSUs, go for decent ATX PSUs.

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So, if I sum it all, the cost isn't so low as I  initially thought.  Its roughly  $127. On newegg I can find some 1200W standard atx psus for the same amount of money and I will also have warranty. So whats the point to go for the server psu? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2J53KH0075
Server PSUs are the best choice when you are able to DIY and source cheap components. A fully DIY wired PSU w/Pico will cost ~85-100$ in material (DPS-1200FB), labor cost - YMMV.
Frankly DIY seems to be not your case, so better stick with ATX power supplies.

You'll find cheap breakout boards only for DPS-1200FB and the likes. Because they are Chinese.
There exist breakout boards for beefier power supplies - DPS-2000BB, IBM 2980W, etc. They cost >40 USD.
Link: http://www.gekkoscience.com/products/IBM2K_board.html

I will reiterate - if you feel unsure to modify server PSUs, go for decent ATX PSUs.

modification is not a problem, I have also a friend who is electronics technician and he can do the work for me for free. The problem is that pico psu is as expensive as a separate cheap psu for the motherboard and also the pci-e cables/plugs for the breakout boards also cost a lot. Do you also have any source where I can get just the 6+2 plugs and the wires separately cheaper than the ready made ones from ebay? For 17 rigs this will cut down a lot of the cost.
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December 19, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
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modification is not a problem, I have also a friend who is electronics technician and he can do the work for me for free. The problem is that pico psu is as expensive as a separate cheap psu for the motherboard and also the pci-e cables/plugs for the breakout boards also cost a lot. Do you also have any source where I can get just the 6+2 plugs and the wires separately cheaper than the ready made ones from ebay? For 17 rigs this will cut down a lot of the cost.
To be clear what means DIY'ing a server PSU: you have to cut wire into into cords, crimp all terminals (and solder - for better contact), slap on 6/6+2 connectors and solder the cabling to PSU's output, or use breakout with terminal blocks.
Parts can be bought cheap from: China (terminals, connectors, PicoPSU) and the electrical supply store (wire).

Time wise, it takes from 2 to 8 hours to fully DIY one PSU, depending on the options. I understand your friend wants to help you, but modding 17 PSUs - that's rather part-time job, than friendly help  Grin
Doing everything wisely decreases the total cost by a good margin.

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Good news. Tonight the rig did not shut down. It's still going. Almost 24 hours now. So hopefully I did solve the problem!! Cheesy ETH price keeps going up. I must expand soon :p
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