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December 09, 2017, 01:26:04 PM |
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Well you should always trust a trusted source, well I don't know much about the survey you read about if its true or not but if it is then offcourse its preety scary!
Yeah it's seems like just a fakenews or nothing but just fakenews. Because there's no proof that they are holding it even a pictures right? Well i definitely would rather sell all my bitcoins if this is true that they owns 40% of bitcoin total supply sell. We all know bitcoin is too expensive right now hehe
They based their assumption on this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.htmlTalking about addresses (not wallets not indivduals) 1556 addresses 0.01% hold 20.3% another 107 hold 17.72% 95.88% of all coins reside in 2.82% of total used adresses. Does not seem like a true fact. First off all, we have not mined all Bitcoin, Second, there is no way of knowing who owns those wallets, third, even if, it is actually more fair, than the wealth distribution in a real world ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Is it? According to the OECD in 2012 the top 0.6% of world population (consisting of adults with more than 1 million USD in assets) or the 42 million richest people in the world held 39.3% of world wealth. 0.62% of addresses in BTC hold 87.22% of the total coins. And now the funny part.... Do you know that most 0.3% of the world population holds all Bitcoins ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? This aside , I've already said that the article is based on addresses and addresses are not people. One can hold the funds of thousands and 100 can be owned by the same.
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December 09, 2017, 01:36:43 PM |
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Well, it is an open secret that top 1000 wallets are holding most of the Bitcoins and even if we think that it is bad for the idea of decentralisation, we must understand that it is the reward for those people who adopted it in early and they took more risk than that of us so I would not blame them in any way. On the other hand, I do see tremendous room for the growth and hence we all are early adopters of it in my opinion. I am also expecting a correction in the price after institutional investor's decision to liquidate their capital.
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December 09, 2017, 04:08:37 PM |
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This number is undoubtedly less; many of these wallets may be owned by the same person, and are being quarantined from each other for matters of security. Bitcoin is centralized for this reason, despite its centralized nature. the concept of centralization applies to all faucets of a thing. yes, the trustless design and use of consensus make bitcoin operationally decentralized, but other factors, like this or the mining situation, are points of centralization that are just as damaging. a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. so any point of centralization is a point of failure, or an attack vector.
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December 10, 2017, 02:11:40 AM |
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Well you should always trust a trusted source, well I don't know much about the survey you read about if its true or not but if it is then offcourse its preety scary!
Yeah it's seems like just a fakenews or nothing but just fakenews. Because there's no proof that they are holding it even a pictures right? Well i definitely would rather sell all my bitcoins if this is true that they owns 40% of bitcoin total supply sell. We all know bitcoin is too expensive right now hehe
They based their assumption on this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.htmlTalking about addresses (not wallets not indivduals) 1556 addresses 0.01% hold 20.3% another 107 hold 17.72% 95.88% of all coins reside in 2.82% of total used adresses. Does not seem like a true fact. First off all, we have not mined all Bitcoin, Second, there is no way of knowing who owns those wallets, third, even if, it is actually more fair, than the wealth distribution in a real world ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Is it? According to the OECD in 2012 the top 0.6% of world population (consisting of adults with more than 1 million USD in assets) or the 42 million richest people in the world held 39.3% of world wealth. 0.62% of addresses in BTC hold 87.22% of the total coins. And now the funny part.... Do you know that most 0.3% of the world population holds all Bitcoins ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? We can easily dismiss everything we don't like or agree with as Fake news but in the scheme of things it is not hard to beleive a small minority controls any type of wealth. It had been like that throughout history, why would this even cause any controversy it is status quo, where there is money there is power. Someone here could be in the top forty percent and we must hunt them. This aside , I've already said that the article is based on addresses and addresses are not people. One can hold the funds of thousands and 100 can be owned by the same.
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December 15, 2017, 05:02:32 AM |
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They must be early investors. I wonder how many are fluke investors like people who mined early on or bought 1000s of coins when it was $0.003 per bitcoin. I guess we all wish that we had done that. Having such few people in control of so many bitcoin seems against bitcoin to me. That seems to make it ventral. But bitcoin is immune to 51% attack so it should not be a problem.
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December 15, 2017, 05:20:07 AM |
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"It’s not necessarily illegal for big holders of some cryptocurrencies to discuss trading with one another. That puts small buyers at a disadvantage." - somehow this is reality, there is always a leader in a moving line, who dictates where and when to turn, that is their privilege for being the first one who owns huge bitcoin. we all have to follow.
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December 15, 2017, 05:28:59 AM |
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There is no point to be afraid of these people because they will not be able to harm us. There is nothing we can do about it since these people are those who took the big risk believing in Bitcoin when its future was not yet known they took a big gamble it just so happened that the gamble paid-off with great dividends. Had it not also been these people who can be early believers and stakers maybe Bitcoin will not be what it is today so they played a big role and now they get the profits. Now, this is an open market if one has the money then he can buy the Bitcoin that he wants.
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December 15, 2017, 05:38:07 AM |
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In a cryptocurrency world most that acquire much number of bitcoin are those who believed in it in the early age and influences a friend or someone they have contact with. I don’t see any irregularities with that. Those 100 richest man in Forbes is even connected to one another professional as partners then what’s the difference.
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December 15, 2017, 05:49:20 AM |
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I think this may be possible if we will be talking about rich people. Rich people can hold as long as they want. While people who depends on their earnings here will probably spend it instantly specially when they need to support their monthly bills. But if we will be pertaining to the massive number of users, it may be not accurate too.
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December 15, 2017, 05:54:09 AM |
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December 15, 2017, 06:21:23 AM |
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The data may be somewhat inaccurate (some addresses may belong to cold wallets of exchanges), but it's not surprising, The majority of wealth (irrespective of form - money, shares, etc.) in the current economic system is always controlled by a small minority. Forking or anything similar will not help.
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December 15, 2017, 12:49:34 PM |
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I suppose that 1% of people have 99% of all fiat money) and they are also well-known persons and know each other..) it is normal for our world at all ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is a very reasonable assumption!
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December 15, 2017, 12:52:25 PM |
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not surprisingly, many mined the bitcoin when it was worthless and keep them, together they had to create a comunity and since they control the market
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December 15, 2017, 01:03:08 PM |
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I think this article is made specifically for intimidating new people who are just beginning to be interested in bitcoins. But even if this is true, these bitches will not be sold soon, at least in 2-3 years.
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December 15, 2017, 01:21:35 PM |
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it seems that it is true news because at this time many people are starting to glance and invest their savings into Bitcoin, therefore it is true that 40% of Bitcoin shares held by approximately 1000 people, their shares may be more than 2% of the total Bitcoin of the world, Bitcoin's current price can not be separated from the control of large investors who have begun to enter into it
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December 15, 2017, 01:34:01 PM |
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I do not know how many people in this world hold a percentage of bitcoin. But the trend toward owning virtual currency is becoming hotter than ever. Perhaps co-bitcoin will be the center and forever a coin of the future, of the times ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 20, 2017, 01:41:09 PM |
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"It’s not necessarily illegal for big holders of some cryptocurrencies to discuss trading with one another. That puts small buyers at a disadvantage." - somehow this is reality, there is always a leader in a moving line, who dictates where and when to turn, that is their privilege for being the first one who owns huge bitcoin. we all have to follow.
it's not illegal because crypto is not regulated. If it were a regulated like a stock it would be illegal
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December 20, 2017, 01:45:03 PM |
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That's quite scary for someone like me who has life plans based on BTC ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Considering that BTC has a cap on market supply, the whales would get a lot more powerful years from now.
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December 20, 2017, 02:11:05 PM |
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I think that 50% of people are controlling the bitcoin. today is known for bitcoin in different countries. That's in part a lucky pool of investors who bet on a cryptocurrency strongly linked to the dark net just a few years earlier. But newer bitcoin investors trying to jump on board should be aware: That also means those 1,000 or so people have outsized ability to influence bitcoin prices.
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December 20, 2017, 02:12:05 PM |
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40% control is a lot, but on the other hand, so are 1,000 people. This still means that Bitcoin is spread out.
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