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June 06, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
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The fact is there are scammers as everywhere, if we don't use escrow make sure firstly about other side. Check his or her XDAG address  to send one coin to make sure that he or she is an owner that address.
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June 06, 2018, 02:42:38 PM
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I think that  it's a whole new design.Everyone loves this community .I think you should keep the project going, to hell with all those disharmonious sounds.
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June 06, 2018, 04:12:41 PM
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I think that  it's a whole new design.Everyone loves this community .I think you should keep the project going, to hell with all those disharmonious sounds.

it's not new in any way whatsoever.. Git was using DAG for it's databased as far back as 2005.
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June 06, 2018, 04:39:25 PM
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so .. NObody knows the hashrate of gtx 1080 or gtx 1080 ti ?
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June 06, 2018, 06:03:31 PM
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1300-1600 MH/s for 1080 TI
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June 06, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
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Hi, what is the exact difference between "Earnings" and "Exact balance" ?
Could you please clarify what "Earning" and "Exact balance"? Where did you see it?
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June 06, 2018, 08:16:41 PM
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Hi all!
XDag v0.2.4 is released.

https://github.com/XDagger/xdag/releases/tag/0.2.4
Github: https://github.com/XDagger/xdag

List of changes:
- whitelist is auto-updated from GitHub
- wallet without mining sends only one share per task instead of six
- inactive connections (connections which do not send shares at all) are automatically disconnected after 5 minutes of inactivity
- new command "disconnect": allows pool-owners to manually disconnect some miner
- main network and test network are protected against accidental merging
- command history and auto-completion for Mac and Linux console wallets
- bug with payments to miner which was disconnected long time ago is fixed

Description of "disconnect" command: this command allows to disconnect some or all connections depending on parameters:
disconnect all - disconnects all connections
disconnect ip <IP> - disconnects all connections with specified IP
disconnect address <ADDRESS> - disconnect all connections with specified address
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June 07, 2018, 03:39:37 AM
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I think this is a good idea. But, Can you please give me more details and how does this really work?
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June 07, 2018, 07:37:35 AM
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I think this is a good idea. But, Can you please give me more details and how does this really work?

XDAG! "The first mineable DAG"

they call it a DAG, but branches of the network are pruned in mining due to the incapable transport layer, so it's not really DAG, it's just a standard blockchain made up in a centralized manner and based on a local network transport layer called DNET.

it's all a bit shit, really. Should never really have been open source. Some bank or other would have made a fortune out of it.
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June 07, 2018, 09:20:42 AM
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I think this is a good idea. But, Can you please give me more details and how does this really work?
Do you mean: "how the coin works"?

they call it a DAG, but branches of the network are pruned in mining due to the incapable transport layer, so it's not really DAG, it's just a standard blockchain made up in a centralized manner and based on a local network transport layer called DNET.
It is not a blockchain. What is your problem?
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June 07, 2018, 09:30:53 AM
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What is your problem?

you keep asking this. I think you'll find that i am pointing out severe problems with the coin, which you continually rebutt towards them being my problem.

So, I shall reiterate... the issues with xdag are not my problem, I am simply pointing them out in case people think it's worth investing in  Cool

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June 07, 2018, 09:34:01 AM
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What is your problem?

you keep asking this. I think you'll find that i am pointing out severe problems with the coin, which you continually rebutt towards them being my problem.

So, I shall reiterate... the issues with xdag are not my problem, I am simply pointing them out in case people think it's worth investing in  Cool



elaborate please.

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June 07, 2018, 11:03:32 AM
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What is your problem?

you keep asking this. I think you'll find that i am pointing out severe problems with the coin, which you continually rebutt towards them being my problem.

So, I shall reiterate... the issues with xdag are not my problem, I am simply pointing them out in case people think it's worth investing in  Cool



elaborate please.

DAG is not a new concept, it's a simple database which creates branches within a Direct Acyclic Graph. This method has been used for internet databases for over 10 years. This coin, where proclaiming to be 'the first mineable DAG' is actually not Full DAG - due to the trimming of branches of the initial DAG to enable PoW using the DNET transport layer (which in itself is a major flaw - DNET is typically designed for local networks and is one of the reasons that XDAG is so prone to collapse.)

It will be impossible to produce smart contracts on the DNET structure. It will also be impossible to allow any more than around 34,000 tx's per second on the entire network. The reasons that pools and the block explorer crashes so often is that the network is incapable of dealing with a large amount of transactions per block (due to the branch trimming to allow DNET)

so, in essense, XDAG is not a DAG mineable coin, it's just a variated blockchain built on a DNET local network.

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DAG is not a new concept, it's a simple database which creates branches within a Direct Acyclic Graph. This method has been used for internet databases for over 10 years. This coin, where proclaiming to be 'the first mineable DAG' is actually not Full DAG - due to the trimming of branches of the initial DAG to enable PoW using the DNET transport layer (which in itself is a major flaw - DNET is typically designed for local networks and is one of the reasons that XDAG is so prone to collapse.)

It will be impossible to produce smart contracts on the DNET structure. It will also be impossible to allow any more than around 34,000 tx's per second on the entire network. The reasons that pools and the block explorer crashes so often is that the network is incapable of dealing with a large amount of transactions per block (due to the branch trimming to allow DNET)

so, in essense, XDAG is not a DAG mineable coin, it's just a variated blockchain built on a DNET local network.


thanks for the reply ! i see.
do you believe that code can be updated/fixed so many if not all of these flaws can be corrected or its wrong by design and thus sooner or later it will crash ?
can someone of the dev team reply to these arguments?

Bill Hicks was right about....everything
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June 07, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
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DAG is not a new concept, it's a simple database which creates branches within a Direct Acyclic Graph. This method has been used for internet databases for over 10 years. This coin, where proclaiming to be 'the first mineable DAG' is actually not Full DAG - due to the trimming of branches of the initial DAG to enable PoW using the DNET transport layer (which in itself is a major flaw - DNET is typically designed for local networks and is one of the reasons that XDAG is so prone to collapse.)

It will be impossible to produce smart contracts on the DNET structure. It will also be impossible to allow any more than around 34,000 tx's per second on the entire network. The reasons that pools and the block explorer crashes so often is that the network is incapable of dealing with a large amount of transactions per block (due to the branch trimming to allow DNET)

so, in essense, XDAG is not a DAG mineable coin, it's just a variated blockchain built on a DNET local network.


thanks for the reply ! i see.
do you believe that code can be updated/fixed so many if not all of these flaws can be corrected or its wrong by design and thus sooner or later it will crash ?
can someone of the dev team reply to these arguments?

all is not lost!
It is my belief that the coin will need a hard fork, removal of the transport layer and re-ignition on a new algo.

I have been mining xdag since early February and had great hopes for the coin, still, i think it's salvageable, but not without the aforementioned requirements being met. The fact remains that there is a huge development fund, and the current devs, instead of fixing the issues, continue to build upon the problematic base layers.

I left the 'community' after quickly seeing through the silence when issues arose and continued 'everything is ok' - when it clearly is not.

A simple fix is a hard fork to a new algo, add tx fees and replace DNET.
perhaps they have left it too long for that now the price has been pumped to silly levels?

who knows...
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June 08, 2018, 01:07:12 AM
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DAG is not a new concept, it's a simple database which creates branches within a Direct Acyclic Graph. This method has been used for internet databases for over 10 years. This coin, where proclaiming to be 'the first mineable DAG' is actually not Full DAG - due to the trimming of branches of the initial DAG to enable PoW using the DNET transport layer (which in itself is a major flaw - DNET is typically designed for local networks and is one of the reasons that XDAG is so prone to collapse.)

It will be impossible to produce smart contracts on the DNET structure. It will also be impossible to allow any more than around 34,000 tx's per second on the entire network. The reasons that pools and the block explorer crashes so often is that the network is incapable of dealing with a large amount of transactions per block (due to the branch trimming to allow DNET)

so, in essense, XDAG is not a DAG mineable coin, it's just a variated blockchain built on a DNET local network.


thanks for the reply ! i see.
do you believe that code can be updated/fixed so many if not all of these flaws can be corrected or its wrong by design and thus sooner or later it will crash ?
can someone of the dev team reply to these arguments?

all is not lost!
It is my belief that the coin will need a hard fork, removal of the transport layer and re-ignition on a new algo.

I have been mining xdag since early February and had great hopes for the coin, still, i think it's salvageable, but not without the aforementioned requirements being met. The fact remains that there is a huge development fund, and the current devs, instead of fixing the issues, continue to build upon the problematic base layers.

I left the 'community' after quickly seeing through the silence when issues arose and continued 'everything is ok' - when it clearly is not.

A simple fix is a hard fork to a new algo, add tx fees and replace DNET.
perhaps they have left it too long for that now the price has been pumped to silly levels?

who knows...

Well, going through the source code, I believe that the DNET stuff can be fixed in about a week, and then it would require some extended testing, which might actually take longer than the fix itself. For sure it is somewhat limiting the project at the moment, but its far from being unmanageable. I have seen much worse with coins that sell for much more. The source is compact and mostly easy to follow, but still a good idea would be to move the project to stl (I think this should be done along with the DNET fix). This would make it much easier to manage and develop, but would require the development team members to be comfortable with the c++xx stuff (this is usually a party breaker). Introducing a (small) transaction fee is essential to stop abuse/attacks, some people do it just for fun. Introducing some minimum payout to the pools would also reduce the traffic (about 1-10 XDAG).

I just might start all that work myself ... cheers


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June 08, 2018, 01:46:27 AM
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I like xdag and I bought some from the change.
But I think the dev teem should boost the speed!
We need more developing guys joining in the community!

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June 08, 2018, 07:08:15 AM
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DAG is not a new concept, it's a simple database which creates branches within a Direct Acyclic Graph. This method has been used for internet databases for over 10 years. This coin, where proclaiming to be 'the first mineable DAG' is actually not Full DAG - due to the trimming of branches of the initial DAG to enable PoW using the DNET transport layer (which in itself is a major flaw - DNET is typically designed for local networks and is one of the reasons that XDAG is so prone to collapse.)

It will be impossible to produce smart contracts on the DNET structure. It will also be impossible to allow any more than around 34,000 tx's per second on the entire network. The reasons that pools and the block explorer crashes so often is that the network is incapable of dealing with a large amount of transactions per block (due to the branch trimming to allow DNET)

so, in essense, XDAG is not a DAG mineable coin, it's just a variated blockchain built on a DNET local network.


thanks for the reply ! i see.
do you believe that code can be updated/fixed so many if not all of these flaws can be corrected or its wrong by design and thus sooner or later it will crash ?
can someone of the dev team reply to these arguments?

all is not lost!
It is my belief that the coin will need a hard fork, removal of the transport layer and re-ignition on a new algo.

I have been mining xdag since early February and had great hopes for the coin, still, i think it's salvageable, but not without the aforementioned requirements being met. The fact remains that there is a huge development fund, and the current devs, instead of fixing the issues, continue to build upon the problematic base layers.

I left the 'community' after quickly seeing through the silence when issues arose and continued 'everything is ok' - when it clearly is not.

A simple fix is a hard fork to a new algo, add tx fees and replace DNET.
perhaps they have left it too long for that now the price has been pumped to silly levels?

who knows...

Well, going through the source code, I believe that the DNET stuff can be fixed in about a week, and then it would require some extended testing, which might actually take longer than the fix itself. For sure it is somewhat limiting the project at the moment, but its far from being unmanageable. I have seen much worse with coins that sell for much more. The source is compact and mostly easy to follow, but still a good idea would be to move the project to stl (I think this should be done along with the DNET fix). This would make it much easier to manage and develop, but would require the development team members to be comfortable with the c++xx stuff (this is usually a party breaker). Introducing a (small) transaction fee is essential to stop abuse/attacks, some people do it just for fun. Introducing some minimum payout to the pools would also reduce the traffic (about 1-10 XDAG).

I just might start all that work myself ... cheers




these are all points i've been putting towards the dev team for months. good luck in not getting banned from their chat for suggesting it!

if you want to mine it in the meantime, i work as support for

http://xdag.signal2noi.se

our friendly and informative discord support channel can be found here:

https://discord.gg/9PRuAXG
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June 08, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
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Can anyone tell me Where can I read new information about the progress of work on the coin XDAG?
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June 08, 2018, 03:18:48 PM
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Can anyone tell me Where can I read new information about the progress of work on the coin XDAG?

there is no progress. Just pump and dump.
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