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July 12, 2013, 11:50:08 PM
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don't they?

I pledge allegiance, who art in heaven
of the hallowed states of name.
Thy will be republic, in earth as it stands for heaven.
One day our daily bread, and forgive us our god.
Indivisible, them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into liberty and justice for all,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power,
and the glory,
for ever and ever.
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July 13, 2013, 11:09:44 AM
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Statism/Nationalism has all the trappings of a religious cult.  So it's not surprising.
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July 13, 2013, 04:47:51 PM
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This reminds me of a year in high school where they changed the Texas Pledge.  It was this stupid pledge they would send you to detention over if you didn't put your hand on your heart and recite it with everyone else, and came on directly after the pledge of allegiance to the US flag.

Anyway, they had changed it from (I think this is what it was:)

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  Honor the Texas flag;
    I pledge allegiance to thee,
    Texas, one and indivisible.

Notice how nice and even it is there.  One year, they changed it, to include just this:

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  Honor the Texas flag;
    I pledge allegiance to thee,
    Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.

Apparently, some group of folks thought it was a great idea to change it.  I wonder who...  Anyway, I got detention over it.  After a while they sent me to ISS, which was horse shit so I started saying the pledge.  Fortunately by the next year, my choir teacher didn't care if we said it or not, but told us if a school official looked into the window, to pretend we were saying it.

Thinking back on it: what the fuck is wrong with public schools?

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July 13, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
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Statism/Nationalism has all the trappings of a religious cult.  So it's not surprising.

+1

Goes to show just how crazy the people who run the world are, and how completely brain dead the full-grown-adults-who-buy-into-it are.

I'm grumpy!!
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July 14, 2013, 07:26:16 AM
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Notice how nice and even it is there.  One year, they changed it, to include just this:

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 Honor the Texas flag;
    I pledge allegiance to thee,
    Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.


Whether it's to the state/nation, or god it's all religion.  Basically, just the figurehead holding the group together as one is different.    When the group moves beyond the small tribe stage you need some kind of idea to make them all feel special to be in the group and that those not in the group are inferior.  

In a global inter-connected world that method starts to come unglued, although there's still a few people that come on this forum and try to make out it's legitimate.  Or if not legitimate, then necessary.  Which also goes back to the official religions which claim they are legitimate, but if that isn't working they claim they are necessary, so that man has morals he can live by.
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July 14, 2013, 09:00:11 PM
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The history of the Pledge of Allegiance is pretty interesting.  It was written in the late 1800s by a Christian Socialist preacher in order to spread National Socialism in America.  He left out the word 'Equality' after Liberty and Justice after several revisions in order to make it more palatable.  The 'Under God' was added sometime in the 50s, I believe.
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