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February 19, 2018, 11:23:20 AM
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To be fair, he didn't ask me to give any keys to him. I think more of a chancer than a fraudster but I did find the requests for 3 btc a bit much. At the time that would have been more than my salary for a year!

I see. I apologize for my earlier assumptions and retract them. I just found it somewhat suspicious which was why I reacted by posting what I posted earlier today.

I wish you well with your 50 BTC. Use it well and focus first and foremost on giving your family an opportunity for a better life. If you have kids, think about their future, their education and ambitions. Invest in those precious opportunities.

You might get a flood of PMs from long lost “relatives”. Or offers to double or triple your coins. I’m sure you are an intelligent individual. Don’t fall for any tricks.

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February 19, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
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Good advice.

Rickorick, btcspot, I'm sure a bitcoin or two would make your lives better. But to earn the sums you're requesting I would have to work several months of 60 hour weeks, of which 1 in 3 are night shifts. On a bad day I may have to tell a mother that she has accidentally killed her child.

I also work with some great nursing auxillaries whose work can be equally stressful but who are very poorly paid. I'm acutely aware of how lucky I've been, but if you think I'm going to give you money just for asking then you're soft in the head. There are better ways of improving the world.
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February 19, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
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But to earn the sums you're requesting I would have to work several months of 60 hour weeks, of which 1 in 3 are night shifts.
Now that your main problem has been solved: don't forget to look into Forkcoins, if you haven't done so yet, you may find another "small" fortune in Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, and many other forks that are more difficult to extract. Don't forget airdrops like Clams and BitCore.

Believe me, I'm more paranoid than that fact might imply!
It wouldn't mind to turn your paranoia up a notch before importing such a high value private key into any forkcoin wallet. Don't trust any of them, keep your privkey offline and sign offline.

As for the beggars on Bitcointalk: just click "Report to moderator", or "Report To Admin" in PMs.

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February 19, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
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Good advice.

Rickorick, btcspot, I'm sure a bitcoin or two would make your lives better. But to earn the sums you're requesting I would have to work several months of 60 hour weeks, of which 1 in 3 are night shifts. On a bad day I may have to tell a mother that she has accidentally killed her child.

I also work with some great nursing auxillaries whose work can be equally stressful but who are very poorly paid. I'm acutely aware of how lucky I've been, but if you think I'm going to give you money just for asking then you're soft in the head. There are better ways of improving the world.

If giving to charity is one of your goals, consider these kids:

https://youtu.be/SPJAbVJ7igs

It's the Kantha Bopha Hospital. Sad sad sad. I see these long snaking queues everyday on my way to work.

Or perhaps a local charity if you have similar initiatives nearby.

A bitcoin or two to individuals here might make their lives better but consider first and foremost the greater good: your family. Don't give away your coins like candy.

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February 19, 2018, 12:34:00 PM
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Good advice.

Rickorick, btcspot, I'm sure a bitcoin or two would make your lives better. But to earn the sums you're requesting I would have to work several months of 60 hour weeks, of which 1 in 3 are night shifts. On a bad day I may have to tell a mother that she has accidentally killed her child.

I also work with some great nursing auxillaries whose work can be equally stressful but who are very poorly paid. I'm acutely aware of how lucky I've been, but if you think I'm going to give you money just for asking then you're soft in the head. There are better ways of improving the world.

Sorry my bad for asking, i also have a shitty paid job and i thought i could shoot my shot, sorry again.
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February 19, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
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You have another ~7BTC worth of forks on your address ($80000 USD!) I'd consider trying to claim the BCH at the very least, it should be a fairly simple process. Other coins might be more of a hassle to claim and sell. Congrats on finding over $550000 USD!

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February 19, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
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DarkStar_ is right, you have some balance on the forked chains (you can sell them off too!)

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February 19, 2018, 11:51:15 PM
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You have just been sent a personal message by Btcspot on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Hi kblaidd, yea I see your post about me and some1 accusing me of trying to fraud you but i wasnt. I was truly trying to help you so i could get a reward. Yes that wallet site isnt a scam ive been using it for 5 months nothing wrong also Electrum wasnt that secure until they fix.  Yea 3 btc was alot to ask my bad but if I was in your shoes id at  least give someone 1 bitcoin. Well glad i could help and im not well off like you think Im struggling also so if you could tip me just .5 or .4 that would help me out. My address I already gave you.  Later man.

Btcspot. At one point you asked me whether I had recovered my funds yet. If you knew as much as me about Bitcoin you would have looked up the address on blockchain.info and seen that I hadn't. I agree you sent me a link (which I had already found for myself, though you were not to know that) but you also gave some advice I consider to be quite poor and hassled me to an extent I found unpleasant. I like to keep quiet about my Bitcoins. The reason I posted here was that I didn't understand why I was having trouble with the transactions and wanted guidance to avoid making expensive mistakes. I was really hoping not to have to resort to raw transactions. Not that I wouldn't have been capable of it (remember I downloaded the software in Summer 2010) but because there was a lot of detail I didn't want to have to learn and such a clear potential for getting things wrong.

Have you ever been to the third developing world? The crushing poverty can be overwhelming with poor kids and beggars hassling you for money. It's deeply distressing and yet hard to do anything about. I'm not generally a fan of Bill Gates but I believe he said that it's as hard to give money away effectively as it is to make it in the first place. I'm afraid I see no indication that giving away money to you would be particularly effective - which is not to say I'm not sympathetic, though it may not seem that way to you.

It may sound a bit crude, but I keep thinking of an unkempt man who owned a van and apparently cruised the streets of of a local city yelling 'Want a f**k?' at any women he passed. One or two in a hundred apparently said 'yes' and joined him in the back of the van, in which he had a mattress.  It's one way to get laid, I suppose, and as far as I can imagine it's not illegal. But the cost is that the 99 women who say 'no' feel distressed and perhaps threatened as they go about their daily lives. Likewise, it's very corrosive if you are trying to discuss technical matters against a constant backdrop of begging letters. Perhaps not as bad as the example above, but it still leaves me with something of a bad taste in my mouth when I visit the forum.

Having some money feels very odd. I've worked very hard at school since I was 4, got into a very competitive course at university, continued to work very hard ever since. Ended up with a mortgage on a fairly modest house that I expected to pay off when I was 62 despite overstretching myself financially to pay for it. One day I read an article about Bitcoin on Slashdot, downloaded the program and mined 50 bitcoins that 7 years later are worth more than I earn in a decade. I'm not complaining but neither am I kidding myself that this is anything like 'normal'.

Being around people with money can be very harmful to your perspective on life. Bitcoin is about money, so for a little help on the forum you suggested I pay you $50,000 (or whatever 3 bitcoins were worth at the time). At the moment I also need a bit of help with a carburetor with a flat spot. If somebody helped me out on the carburetor forum, would you expect me to pay him $50,000 for his expertise - which these days is at least as specialised and scarce as expertise about Bitcoin? In my job I could easily kill somebody if I'm not careful. A few times I've even saved somebody's life by spotting something other people had missed*. Do I get a $50,000 bonus every time I save somebody's life? Should I? The answer is 'no' on both counts. There's nothing special about advice about money that makes it more valuable than advice about other matters.

So, cultivate a sense of perspective. I get the impression that you are young and I am aware of how hard life can be these days. Although my mortgage has been crippling, I considered myself lucky to have one at all. I know that quality jobs are not as common as they used to be - the salary for my job is far lower than it would have been a decade or two ago. Something is going fundamentally wrong with the way society works. But that doesn't mean that hassling people for bitcoins on the internet is an acceptable thing to do.

Paradoxically, I think the reason I have made money out of Bitcoin was because I was interested in it for its own sake and never really expected to. It seemed like a fun experiment and I was intrigued by it. What else are you interested in? By all means keep whatever bitcoin you own, but can I suggest you try to think of them a little less. I think your life will be better for it.

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February 20, 2018, 01:38:28 AM
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You have just been sent a personal message by Btcspot on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Hi kblaidd, yea I see your post about me and some1 accusing me of trying to fraud you but i wasnt. I was truly trying to help you so i could get a reward. Yes that wallet site isnt a scam ive been using it for 5 months nothing wrong also Electrum wasnt that secure until they fix.  Yea 3 btc was alot to ask my bad but if I was in your shoes id at  least give someone 1 bitcoin. Well glad i could help and im not well off like you think Im struggling also so if you could tip me just .5 or .4 that would help me out. My address I already gave you.  Later man.

Btcspot. At one point you asked me whether I had recovered my funds yet. If you knew as much as me about Bitcoin you would have looked up the address on blockchain.info and seen that I hadn't. I agree you sent me a link (which I had already found for myself, though you were not to know that) but you also gave some advice I consider to be quite poor and hassled me to an extent I found unpleasant. I like to keep quiet about my Bitcoins. The reason I posted here was that I didn't understand why I was having trouble with the transactions and wanted guidance to avoid making expensive mistakes. I was really hoping not to have to resort to raw transactions. Not that I wouldn't have been capable of it (remember I downloaded the software in Summer 2010) but because there was a lot of detail I didn't want to have to learn and such a clear potential for getting things wrong.

Have you ever been to the third developing world? The crushing poverty can be overwhelming with poor kids and beggars hassling you for money. It's deeply distressing and yet hard to do anything about. I'm not generally a fan of Bill Gates but I believe he said that it's as hard to give money away effectively as it is to make it in the first place. I'm afraid I see no indication that giving away money to you would be particularly effective - which is not to say I'm not sympathetic, though it may not seem that way to you.

It may sound a bit crude, but I keep thinking of an unkempt man who owned a van and apparently cruised the streets of of a local city yelling 'Want a f**k?' at any women he passed. One or two in a hundred apparently said 'yes' and joined him in the back of the van, in which he had a mattress.  It's one way to get laid, I suppose, and as far as I can imagine it's not illegal. But the cost is that the 99 women who say 'no' feel distressed and perhaps threatened as they go about their daily lives. Likewise, it's very corrosive if you are trying to discuss technical matters against a constant backdrop of begging letters. Perhaps not as bad as the example above, but it still leaves me with something of a bad taste in my mouth when I visit the forum.

Having some money feels very odd. I've worked very hard at school since I was 4, got into a very competitive course at university, continued to work very hard ever since. Ended up with a mortgage on a fairly modest house that I expected to pay off when I was 62 despite overstretching myself financially to pay for it. One day I read an article about Bitcoin on Slashdot, downloaded the program and mined 50 bitcoins that 7 years later are worth more than I earn in a decade. I'm not complaining but neither am I kidding myself that this is anything like 'normal'.

Being around people with money can be very harmful to your perspective on life. Bitcoin is about money, so for a little help on the forum you suggested I pay you $50,000 (or whatever 3 bitcoins were worth at the time). At the moment I also need a bit of help with a carburetor with a flat spot. If somebody helped me out on the carburetor forum, would you expect me to pay him $50,000 for his expertise - which these days is at least as specialised and scarce as expertise about Bitcoin? In my job I could easily kill somebody if I'm not careful. A few times I've even saved somebody's life by spotting something other people had missed*. Do I get a $50,000 bonus every time I save somebody's life? Should I? The answer is 'no' on both counts. There's nothing special about advice about money that makes it more valuable than advice about other matters.

So, cultivate a sense of perspective. I get the impression that you are young and I am aware of how hard life can be these days. Although my mortgage has been crippling, I considered myself lucky to have one at all. I know that quality jobs are not as common as they used to be - the salary for my job is far lower than it would have been a decade or two ago. Something is going fundamentally wrong with the way society works. But that doesn't mean that hassling people for bitcoins on the internet is an acceptable thing to do.

Paradoxically, I think the reason I have made money out of Bitcoin was because I was interested in it for its own sake and never really expected to. It seemed like a fun experiment and I was intrigued by it. What else are you interested in? By all means keep whatever bitcoin you own, but can I suggest you try to think of them a little less. I think your life will be better for it.

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You don't need to give anyone money here we are a free community there are a lot of members here who are "un-educated" at best.  But you seem to be on the ball with that so no more will be said on that matter.

As posted previously you do have the chance to claim your fork coins at a ratio of 1:1 for BCH So that might come as a surprise to you that your holdings are actually worth a lot more than you first thought.
Though a note here.. I myself have not claimed any of my BCH for one reason.  I do not feel comfortable with the split and the fact I do not fully trust this "new" chain so I myself decided against it.

Though the option is there for you to make if you decided to do so.

I was interested in your first post you stated that you ran core on anaemic EEPC ?  I could not find any reference to what this was? I guess since it was back in 2010 it was cpu or gpu?

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February 20, 2018, 02:06:35 AM
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CPU - I think it was the 900 series with a 20GB hard disk an an Intel Atom processor - N270; 1.19 M#/s. I gave up mining when GPUs came in - simply too busy to do all the work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC

I appreciate the tip re. the forks. I was aware of BCH but not some of the others and Darkstar's website was nice.
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February 20, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
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CPU - I think it was the 900 series with a 20GB hard disk an an Intel Atom processor - N270; 1.19 M#/s. I gave up mining when GPUs came in - simply too busy to do all the work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC

I appreciate the tip re. the forks. I was aware of BCH but not some of the others and Darkstar's website was nice.

Trying to find a block now is so difficult I have been hunting for one for some time I bought a bunch of older ASIC miners for the hunt just ended up with a "very" large electric bill.
I even rented like 20PH for 2 days and never managed to find a block.

I think bitcoin would have been better staying CPU/GPU they removed this from core a long time back now.  Now you must be a slave to bitmain or others if you want to be in the mining game today.

This really is a fantastic story there are not many people here who have mined blocks way back then that managed to keep them until now.




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I agree; I liked bitcoin better when it was it was more decentralised and anybody with a computer could contribute. I bid on Ebay on an early mining rig - just missed out and gave up on the idea. But it was when people started putting serious money into ASICS that I first realised that it really was going to turn into something big. By that time though, I had enough wealth in Bitcoins that I couldn't bring myself to spend significant money on buying more.

I also owned a fairly powerful (for the day) computer that I used exclusively for games, and kept off the internet so that I didn't have to slow it down with antivirus software. Had I used it to mine bitcoins I would have made a lot more of them, but I suspect I wouldn't have actually ended up in a financially very different place. What was important to me was the ability to buy a house and live debt free - a position in which I now find myself. If I'd had twice the number of bitcoins I would have reached that point sooner - but on the grand scale of things, not a lot sooner. If I slightly regret anything, it's that I toyed with designing a hardware wallet back in 2010 but didn't have any spare time to devote to the project.
 
Any particular reason you want to own a block? It was fun to see the 'mining' symbol next to the funds when you run Bitcoin-QT. I get some real satisfaction from having been there from relatively early on.
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