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"2) How much? Then set the amount you need to save up to afford your wish. The amount is denominated in Fiat currency as it is the prevailing means of payment. By the way, that makes it a lot easier for you as you don’t need to do the math converting Fiat to crypto and vice versa — this complex task is on us." But maybe do the math when it's about fees... ;-)
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Darthswan
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June 08, 2018, 04:56:54 PM |
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why you guys still waiting this shitcoin will be list at top 5 exchange ?
they allready said they dont want to pay fees to exchange
top 5 exchange must pay fees and deposit, if they dont want to pay its impossible to be list
savedroid is shitcoin shitproject, no chance to get free listing at top 5 exchange, end of story
dont wait for this shitproject
Yes , they said this yesterday: SVD Token - HADAX community voting rules changed: now running until June 10 and only Top1 of EU&AU Edition gets listed - Alignment talks with Top5 exchange ongoing, listing date depends on their availability, we continue to push for listing asap - Ongoing talks with further exchanges, listing fees remain extremely high, we will only accept economically favorable termsSo it means there is no hope for that top 5 exchanges as they promised at the time of token sale. I don't understand why we need that HADAX in first attempt to make this trading live although there are so many exchanges where it can get listed with low fee as compare with that. The problem is that the Savedroid team understands what kind of shit it was, and if they now make a listing on the exchange, then the token will die, everything, no, ALL will go to drop this shit, not depending on the price, so as to return at least some money. Therefore, they chose the easiest way, to tighten with listing on stock exchanges, as long as possible, while thinking in parallel how to get out of this shit. They have no ideas, there is no development plan, the community does not trust them. This is my opinion, but it seems to me that I'm thinking in the right direction.
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June 09, 2018, 09:53:00 AM |
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People no longer trust the project. Listing on one single exchange will result in one thing only: everyone dumping their coins and that will kill SVD.
What they could do is to work hard and try to deliver the product they promised before listing on exchange, so they gain some trust and people continue to hodl.
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June 09, 2018, 11:46:22 AM |
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Is there any new announcement regarding the unlock of the tokens? This token is over, they didn't realise the unlocking after more than two months after ICO, this is so bad!
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June 09, 2018, 02:56:45 PM |
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I see interesting analysis and do agree that apparently they want people to dump and be happy with little money whatever they get from their tokens. Some people usually do like this too they sell with loss and remaining money they invest somewhere else to cover losses. They are teaching us lesson to not jump on anything in future.
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June 09, 2018, 03:03:34 PM |
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Savedroid team don't want to spend money and here the problem started. They have impression they will remain with less money and think this is their money why to loose from this few hundred thousands dollars. They were not going to deliver anyway but at least people could be happy seeing them honoring their promises. They didn't play correctly from the start and are doing foul after foul.
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June 09, 2018, 04:15:38 PM |
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A fantastic idea you have shared. I am happy to see it. Go ahead.
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June 09, 2018, 09:26:40 PM |
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[size=100pt] SCAM [/size] I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake. https://i.imgur.com/rUulWpw.jpg
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[size=100pt] SCAM [/size] I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake. You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet. But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain... 1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO 2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw) 3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number 4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked... - if there are numbers - if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume - about the expected burn rate etc. Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-) Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.
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June 09, 2018, 10:33:02 PM |
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[size=100pt] SCAM [/size] I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake. You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet. But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain... 1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO 2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw) 3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number 4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked... - if there are numbers - if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume - about the expected burn rate etc. Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-) Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project. Yeah, i got banned from the german group almost immediately. After i asked one of the new admins why, i was told, there was a internal discussion about me and the conclusion was, because i'm not invested at all, i show a lack of objectivity towards the project. So they decided it would be better for the project, if i'm not allowed to be there. Funny though, i'm still on the official ICO group and still able to write there... Well..... nuff said... Hacky
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You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.
But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...
1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO 2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw) 3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number 4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust
So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...
- if there are numbers - if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume - about the expected burn rate etc.
Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned
That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)
Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.
Yeah, i got banned from the german group almost immediately. After i asked one of the new admins why, i was told, there was a internal discussion about me and the conclusion was, because i'm not invested at all, i show a lack of objectivity towards the project. So they decided it would be better for the project, if i'm not allowed to be there. Funny though, i'm still on the official ICO group and still able to write there... Well..... nuff said... Hacky I'm also still on the official/english channel. But actually I believed it would be possible to talk about certain things a bit deeper on the german group than it's possible on the english channel, on which the only talk seems to be "when exchange" - "we don't know". It's so damn superficial there while the german group seemed not to be that way first. But it seems that a deeper dive into the fundamentals is not well received anywhere. But, I don't take it personal. In my opinion it's the weakness of the project, all the weird team-decisions and contradictions, the lack of transparency and actual facts about important aspects, what simply overwhelms those who communicate in favor of this project. If confronted with all of that, they can not really reply with arguments, but if they can't reply it would make those weaknesses obvious, so they try to find reasons to shut down fundamental and critical discussions. Isn't it ironic as well: Savedroid wanted attention, wanted to educate, warn and start discussion about the whole Crypto-space and the topics: 1) transparency and a lack of 2) economical sustainability and a lack of 3) honesty and a lack of 4) greed 5) hype etc. But obviously they prefer theoretical discussions about "everything" that is not Savedroid while the look into the mirror scares them. ;-)
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June 09, 2018, 11:12:48 PM |
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I've written a demand in telegram, waiting for your return
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I've written a demand in telegram, waiting for your return
Thanks a lot! But honestly... that's not the right place for me. I don't think that I want to discuss there anymore because I don't like this whole attitude of pretending openness, all the nice talk and saying "critique is welcomed" while that is actually not the case. Some days ago I already was set on "read only", just because I replied on an admin who basically said "critique is welcomed but not this one" with the question which critique is allowed --> silenced ;-) Before that I asked the Admin "what was wrong what I said?" and he replied with "enough!". That's such a low level and I don't like to be in a position that others have the power to make arbitrarily decisions to silence those who come up with arguments and fundamental questions.
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June 10, 2018, 01:59:57 PM |
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Guys, it looks like we ended up in a huge German trap called savedroid. I always considered the Germans tactful, correct and very organized people and did not expect such a dirty trick from the German project. The first bells started appearing back in March when they began to postpone the distribution of tokens, and after 3 months, when the trap slammed, you can not do anything. The team of savedroid treats their investors as animals, who should not know anything, deception at the ICO stage. should not ask unnecessary questions, or even better if they dont asked any questions at all. Tokens are locked, there are no stock exchanges, some bans in the telegram group, justifying this FUD towards the project. The saddest thing is that we can not do anything about it, we can only wait, from time to time listening to lies from the team savedroid.(as it was with the vote on the listing on exchanges)
P. S. Dr. Yassin Hankir if you read this, then you should be ashamed. If you do not want to pay for the listing on exchanges, you should have a DECRED level project. Unfortunately on this level you can not ever rise.
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Guys, it looks like we ended up in a huge German trap called savedroid. I always considered the Germans tactful, correct and very organized people and did not expect such a dirty trick from the German project. The first bells started appearing back in March when they began to postpone the distribution of tokens, and after 3 months, when the trap slammed, you can not do anything. The team of savedroid treats their investors as animals, who should not know anything, deception at the ICO stage. should not ask unnecessary questions, or even better if they dont asked any questions at all. Tokens are locked, there are no stock exchanges, some bans in the telegram group, justifying this FUD towards the project. The saddest thing is that we can not do anything about it, we can only wait, from time to time listening to lies from the team savedroid.(as it was with the vote on the listing on exchanges)
P. S. Dr. Yassin Hankir if you read this, then you should be ashamed. If you do not want to pay for the listing on exchanges, you should have a DECRED level project. Unfortunately on this level you can not ever rise.
Dr. Yassin Hankir ? Are you sure he is a Dr? He is just a thief. 1- Fake vote result https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008 , check real one here: https://www.poll-maker.com/results1957824x0Ce94B11-53#tab-22- They said, "Currently investigating a minting issue, relevant for <1% of all tokens. Will announce details and solution in the next AMA before trading start." https://www.reddit.com/r/savedroid_ico/comments/8goxr6/currently_investigating_a_minting_issue_relevant/But check here. This is only first 250 holders and as you know, there is 35000 investors, so is it really <1% ? I think it's more than 10% 2 transactions 1,000,002 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x81eaa8d27e39ba247ab80d64ddc241e3e17967d93 transactions 6,178,791 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xa7c40fdca17877e729947b66c7f6be717a01d2555 transactions 1,756,604 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xb750ef4b8970bd99d9bf1e15eaf5b4ad53574c255 transactions 1,483,930 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x09c160223939a19f537b3612848174d827eaf2a32 transactions 734,643 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x7e900f6ac0d7c1e288eea560359c113a4f96440b2 transactions 800,004 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x666ca0ea231627a68a75e5b5076744b890fb50432 transactions 611,112 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xd946f475070e92f6345b84fdc070d36415c185416 transactions 200,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xafbeb11dd6cc7f720e552197c3148092de1e52902 transactions 519,900 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x160a9c373227132bd3aa44ca32a7065ad571edfc2 transactions 500,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xb5dff5f84e46679b943b9be8892cc1ac1d8f607d2 transactions 492,822 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xd6c446fec5311042827df157260e342588a37a383 transactions 300,002 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xbf16aded5788909c60755ba7130847fc127a10362 transactions 390,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xedaa88424238b4e17a38488f3e30a8afe49982573 transactions 250,004 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x3ff9737d62fdc6f61f6706c96eb00725d8446e806 transactions 109,796 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xec9be98a47933ef82341e1f6f2518f632a26c2545 transactions 130,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x6d7d8280e1833586b53cdec4b443d9f1541d5b892 transactions 324,900 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0xeb08ad7386c787513ed6a34d286d83c1a286a5fd2 transactions 300,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x3cb9e4ddc59d886efaa6ba26f08f3ca4ea093a372 transactions 300,091 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x6ec77a9fdd5877eb20b515480979fc08aa1bcb942 transactions 278,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x6c5548504b53a0822ea179d67888f39900fda88c6 transactions 88,528 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x29e4588508b322473e8cd9f3be30147287e770a22 transactions 270,000 https://etherscan.io/token/0xbdEB4b83251Fb146687fa19D1C660F99411eefe3?a=0x07260da5a835b7684b1467538abdc06673208d0b3- After fake voting still they can not confirm any time for listing. They said option top 5 has been won. And it's time is 4-6 weeks. 4 weeks is minimum time which is 28 days 6 weeks is maximum time which is 42 days. 26 days passed https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008But here is their joke: "We can not confirm a listing time as already stated several times, as it's not our call when the top5 exchange is ready. It's their policies, that's why we asked the community if we shall wait or not."
"We're currently orchestrating all exchanges for a joined start date. Will let you know as soon as that is confirmed."
"Ongoing talks with further exchanges, listing fees remain extremely high, we will only accept economically favorable terms"
4- Also read this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2578161.msg36778043#msg36778043
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People allready know that this savedroid dev team is greedy just want to take $$$ from investor pocket, they dont care about investor, they just buying time delay everything just want to wait escrow release their money, after escrow release money im sure they will fucking gone, they just a bunch of scammer especially dr porn yassin and tobias, both of them CES ( chief executive scammer )
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I suppose this project is very good and good.
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You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet. But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain... 1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO 2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw) 3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number 4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked... - if there are numbers - if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume - about the expected burn rate etc. Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-) Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project. I also noticed that they can't handle critism well, especially in the german group. I'm german myself, so I kinda followed all the discussions. It is funny to see the same people that 2 months ago defended Savedroid now slowly are moving to the critism side. I did support the project in the beginning, but I changed my attitude thanks to the worst marketing and worst promises ever. Gonna sell my tokens and leave. I'm pretty sure the price will be way lower than 0.01$. I expect something in the 0.005$ range or lower since the token has no value and only lies so far. The sneakpeak announced won't change anything. One of the worst updates ever. See you around christmas when it is still not listed haha
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June 10, 2018, 03:36:33 PM |
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A good trade method by suggesting a variety of comfort, convenience, conveniences and lower costs than other trades will make a difficult competition in the stock exchanges for crypto players.
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June 10, 2018, 05:22:28 PM |
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I suppose this project is very good and good.
I think, you don't know what you're talking about. No offense included. Hacky
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Cryptocurrency Mining, Gambling, Lending, Trading, Staking .. So much to do with them, since 2010! Donations-> 1bytoroRvXLGc1FWTob5h1oH92VMdUSFi Questions? Dunno! To the moon? Mün or bust! Lust auf klönschnack? Schau bei uns rein im Cryptotalk (D-A-CH+EU) unter https://t.me/cryptotalkgerman
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