MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted

[JackpotRacer]

I was trying to let people know that they can withdraw their funds instead of thinking they aren't able to and not try or give up because of misinformation.   

I truly can not win posting.  Good bye again.

JPR is asking a legit question , can Maidenvoyage withdraw or not ??
he is the biggest investor AFAIK , it doesn't make sense to pay other people and leave the ones who trusted you the most with a lot of money

that is exactly the problem that Dogedigital is not answering legit questions and is thinking he will get away with it

[JackpotRacer]

Please stop.  You are trying to twist things and give them different meanings.  I and Moneypot can't and won't be commenting on these things.  Stop speculating please. 

I'm not completely caught up on what's going here, but are you refusing to clarify your statement and asking people not to speculate? 

The only other choice is to just try not to think about it, which obviously isn't going to happen.

Not asking people to not think about it.  Just not to speculate and post what they think happened.  It needs to be handled by the appropriate channels, and until that has happened, we cannot comment on the situation.

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so let me ask again

is @Maidenvoyage the only one who is not allowed to withdraw?

[JackpotRacer]

new interesting info from Monsterbyte posted in another thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1683230.msg30576791#msg30576791

1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)

and

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1683230.msg30580706#msg30580706

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!

<FYI, This is the last I'm responding to any MP items, we will revisit it after the legal process is done >

[TwitchySeal]

@JPRacer, I appreciate the things you're posting, but the way you are posting quotes from other threads is kind of a pain to read (in my opinion).

I could be wrong, but I think most would appreciate if you just post the direct quotes by clicking "quote" and not reformatting anything (it will also be much easier for you too)

For example (this took me about 10 seconds):

1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)

This press release begs to differ:

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/monster-byte-moneypot-historic-crypto-gaming-merger/

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!

<FYI, This is the last I'm responding to any MP items, we will revisit it after the legal process is done >

[JackpotRacer]

@JPRacer, I appreciate the things you're posting, but the way you are posting quotes from other threads is kind of a pain to read (in my opinion).

I could be wrong, but I think most would appreciate if you just post the direct quotes by clicking "quote" and not reformatting anything (it will also be much easier for you too)

For example (this took me about 10 seconds):

1. Monster Byte hasn't closed the deal with MP, we are waiting for the outcome of claim in Canada.

2. Provably.io (and all other sites that leverage MoneyPot) are owned and operated by individuals, not MoneyPot (or any parent company)

This press release begs to differ:

http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/monster-byte-moneypot-historic-crypto-gaming-merger/

The deal we have been working on takes months to close, just like real-world M&A. Also in the real world, we have periods of due diligence to satisfy before closing on such opportunities. In this case, the press was released before the legal claim came in. If things don't work out for MP, we will retract our offer. We are hoping that's not the case as we believe we have the right talent to grow MoneyPot to be in a position of success and trust this year.

I missed you!

<FYI, This is the last I'm responding to any MP items, we will revisit it after the legal process is done >

will try

thx for helping out

[dooglus]

will try

thx for helping out

Much better!

[JackpotRacer]

will try

thx for helping out

Much better!

I am always trying to learn from people who are trying to help. TS did it in a very polite way and I appreciate that

could some one teach me coding our casino to get it life?

BTW dooglus would you recommend to us to add clam when we get life?

[jey_M7]

I'm really trying to stay away from you here JP and the new team has no quarrels with you.  If you sit back and relax, you will start to see things will start playing out how you have been requesting them to.   The merger is a good thing for you and everyone involved

I will not delete your posting because we live in a free BTC world and not in your MP Dictatorship. my postings are all legit and I am glad some ex MP fans are coming out to ask questions. also RHavar had a legit question and it was answered like always namely not

how long should one sit back and relax? if you would have shown real serious intentions ok lets sit back but you did only bring up new empty promises.

your bank roll is a JOKE and also that you want to prove that you have 1 BTC it really shows that I was right that  you guys are insolvent and as I wrote long before you will sell MP with a bit of luck.

until your promises are not full filled I am saying out loud

Monster Byte merger with Moneypot is a MONSTER SCAM

now  lets see if you can delete my posting you clown

why do you say scam?
where i can check about that ??

[JackpotRacer]

Congrats to Dogedigital and now the investors have very good chances to get their money back.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2936044.msg30290778#msg30290778

CryptoBust username: dogedigital
Contest #: 4
Game ID(s): https://btc.cryptobust.io/game/1013406

and very interesting it was accepted even the rule says participants with red trust are not eligible to participate!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2936044.msg30294348#msg30294348

CryptoBust username: dogedigital
Contest #: 4
Game ID(s): https://btc.cryptobust.io/game/1013406

Despite your red trust, Admin decided to accept your entry anyway.

Congratulations

[JackpotRacer]

Another legit question deleted by Moneypot Scammers

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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why is the thread subject

Moneypot: Powered by Monster Byte?

according to Monsterbyte there is no final deal done yet and they are waiting the outcome of the court decision

here the posting of Monsterbyte
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2592025.msg29682581#msg29682581

Quote from: casinobitco on February 05, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
Quote from: Dogedigital on February 05, 2018, 09:25:48 PM
Quote from: fiscorcle on February 05, 2018, 09:16:53 PM
So, if MP Legacy only sold its assets MonsterByte, what happened to the payments MonsterByte made to MP? If the company has any liabilities, any proceeds from the sale of assets should go towards those liabilities rather than to the owners - that's just corporate law works, even in Costa Rica I'm pretty sure. In this case, especially, because the debt had been called prior to the asset sale, meaning MP has an obligation to direct any proceeds from the sale to the owner of their liabilities. Anything else is pretty much just embezzlement...

The merger deal is for equity swapped.  Moneypot legacy is using the income gained from the equity to pay for things such as debt tokens, support for R2B2 in the future, and increased development of Moneypot.  No direct payments were made to the owners.

To add to this, Keeth is correct - there hasn't been any transfer of money to MoneyPot, and it's important to note that we haven't closed the deal yet. The potential deal we have in place is development and marketing support to help MoneyPot realize their vision, as well as restricted equity in Monster Byte assuming certain conditions were made throughout 2018.

Contingent upon our deal was that the old MoneyPot team would make realistic arrangements to settle all their previous liabilities from future revenue of the MoneyPot platform, and solve the Rubies token situation. The proposal that Keeth put out there seemed realistic and in the best interests of anyone that had a vested interest in MoneyPot fixing this situation and moving on under the Monster Byte umbrella. The alternative is that they would fold operations and everyone is left with nothing.

However, there was a legal claim presented in the Canada courts that we need to see through before we move any further. It's unfortunate as I believe we were making some good progress on foundational items, but we (Monster Byte) will need to see how that case ends up before we officially close the deal with MoneyPot.

This thread isn't helping matters, and anything can (and most certainly will) be used in the court system - so this is the last I'm writing publicly on this matter until it's resolved.
 

[TwitchySeal]

We are not only bound by NDA but forfeit our legal stance by posting in public.  There are many inaccuracies and false statements put out currently and by posting in public, we risk losing our stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges.

Please let the appropriate channels handle the situation. 

Then stop posting about it.
There are obvious many users who haven't signed an NDA - they should feel free to discuss the situation.

^^pm from moneypot and my response

Really seems like they are trying to use the NDA argument for their own benefit.

If you sign an NDA, that means you've agreed not to disclose certain details.  It's not a good excuse to try and silence/censor others who have not signed the NDA.

[JackpotRacer]

We are not only bound by NDA but forfeit our legal stance by posting in public.  There are many inaccuracies and false statements put out currently and by posting in public, we risk losing our stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges.

Please let the appropriate channels handle the situation. 

Then stop posting about it.
There are obvious many users who haven't signed an NDA - they should feel free to discuss the situation.

^^pm from moneypot and my response

Really seems like they are trying to use the NDA argument for their own benefit.

If you sign an NDA, that means you've agreed not to disclose certain details.  It's not a good excuse to try and silence/censor others who have not signed the NDA.

absolutely correct what you are saying and very strange argumentation from Moneypot.

he writes now that they risk losing their stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges! huh? is Maidenvoyage a criminal who is trying to withdraw his coins and the promised 35 BTC? or are Moneypot owners the criminals who are trying to scam their investors? I am still waiting for my 4 BTC

[DarkDays]

We are not only bound by NDA but forfeit our legal stance by posting in public.  There are many inaccuracies and false statements put out currently and by posting in public, we risk losing our stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges.

Please let the appropriate channels handle the situation. 

Then stop posting about it.
There are obvious many users who haven't signed an NDA - they should feel free to discuss the situation.

^^pm from moneypot and my response

Really seems like they are trying to use the NDA argument for their own benefit.

If you sign an NDA, that means you've agreed not to disclose certain details.  It's not a good excuse to try and silence/censor others who have not signed the NDA.

I can see both sides of the coin.  If there were a situation where people were stating inaccuracies, it would be infuriating to not be able to correct the record.

That said, it seems pretty cut and dry.  An investor asked to divest 100BTC, wasn't given his/her money, and then filed a lawsuit.  I don't see many ways of looking at that where MP had the investor money and tried to give it back to him/her.

Also it wouldn't violate an NDA or a lawsuit to say "Here's the tx id of us sending 100BTC".  It's on the blockchain and thus is public information.

Here's some speculation:  I am speculating that they never told Monster Bit about this outstanding debt/stolen money/whatever it is and MB found out about it at the zero hour and pulled their offer.

[TwitchySeal]

We are not only bound by NDA but forfeit our legal stance by posting in public.  There are many inaccuracies and false statements put out currently and by posting in public, we risk losing our stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges.

Please let the appropriate channels handle the situation. 

Then stop posting about it.
There are obvious many users who haven't signed an NDA - they should feel free to discuss the situation.

We are not posting about it, but at the same time we wish for those who do not know the details, especially those that are not Moneypot customers and hold personal grudges be able to further damage our product and brand based off of inaccuracies.

The information that is needed is out there.   It is not hidden or deleted.  There is a claim that is made, has been disputed and countered, and it is being handled by the appropriate legal channels.  Users should be able to make their own decisions based on what's out there and not speculations by outside spectators, competitors, and those with personal grudges.  There are no actual moneypot customers discussing the issue and no other customer has made any claims that they have not been paid out.

Private/Personal messages are not meant to be disclosed in public. 

Unlike most of the people who have been posting in moneypot threads, I have absolutely nothing to gain from calling you guys out or defending you.  I'm just sharing my honest impartial opinion.

You guys are acting super shady.

Trying to shut down other people discussing what's going on with moneypot and literally millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin is just wrong.

If you have nothing to contribute to the conversation due to an NDA then fine, don't contribute anything.  Obviously this will make you look bad, but not as bad as trying to convince people to simply stop talking about it.

If contact me via unsolicited pm trying to convince me to stop discussing the issue, of course I will post it. 

[JackpotRacer]

We are not only bound by NDA but forfeit our legal stance by posting in public.  There are many inaccuracies and false statements put out currently and by posting in public, we risk losing our stance against pursuing an individual for criminal charges.

Please let the appropriate channels handle the situation. 

Then stop posting about it.
There are obvious many users who haven't signed an NDA - they should feel free to discuss the situation.

We are not posting about it, but at the same time we wish for those who do not know the details, especially those that are not Moneypot customers and hold personal grudges be able to further damage our product and brand based off of inaccuracies.

The information that is needed is out there.   It is not hidden or deleted.  There is a claim that is made, has been disputed and countered, and it is being handled by the appropriate legal channels.  Users should be able to make their own decisions based on what's out there and not speculations by outside spectators, competitors, and those with personal grudges.  There are no actual moneypot customers discussing the issue and no other customer has made any claims that they have not been paid out.

Private/Personal messages are not meant to be disclosed in public. 

Unlike most of the people who have been posting in moneypot threads, I have absolutely nothing to gain from calling you guys out or defending you.  I'm just sharing my honest impartial opinion.

You guys are acting super shady.

Trying to shut down other people discussing what's going on with moneypot and literally millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin is just wrong.

If you have nothing to contribute to the conversation due to an NDA then fine, don't contribute anything.  Obviously this will make you look bad, but not as bad as trying to convince people to simply stop talking about it.

If contact me via unsolicited pm trying to convince me to stop discussing the issue, of course I will post it. 

thats exactly what Dogedigital did with me he bombarded me with PMs and I told him I publish all his PMs so it is better to stop the PMs and lets discuss it in public.

why did RHavar delete many postings because Dogedigital PMed him and begged for it

user moneypot is Dogedigital. it is already a one man show

[moneypot]

With Twitchyseal's permission, and to give a complete picture of the entire conversation,

This was the response to private messages:

« Sent to: TwitchySeal on: Today at 08:13:19 PM »

You were private messaged because you posted in the thread after numerous statements asking people not to speculate with the bitcointalk rule explicitly stating: if your posts have been deleted or you have been asked not to post, do not post again.  It felt like a better form of communication as we are trying to encourage users to withdraw if they still had a balance and make it as visible as possible.  Side issues that have already been addressed would detract from that.

There aren't any users with a balance of over 1 Bitcoin and once this issue is properly settled by the appropriate channels, we are able to post the proof of liabilities for all funds.

We understand that you're trying to do 'good' by the bitcointalk community and that's commendable, so wouldn't letting these events take place so that it can be done be the appropriate move on your part?

[DarkDays]

thats exactly what Dogedigital did with me he bombarded me with PMs and I told him I publish all his PMs so it is better to stop the PMs and lets discuss it in public.

why did RHavar delete many postings because Dogedigital PMed him and begged for it

user moneypot is Dogedigital. it is already a one man show

He did the same thing to me last month, and started the unsolicited message with

"*For personal viewing only*"

I informed him that that was worthless since I wasn't his doctor or lawyer. 

He said that he wrong that because he "thought this was a gentleman's conversation", which is pretty illogical since if you think it's a gentleman's conversation you wouldn't have to inform the other gentleman to not publicise what you're saying.

[JackpotRacer]

a bit info about Moneypot support. taken from Moneypot discord channel

from general -

BlackSheep (MoneyPot) - 03/23/2018
Hi Kitty Mill
Were going to start being more active in our Discord channel here again.
Issues regarding Flash deposits have been resolved

steeeeev - Yesterday at 2:56 PM
any moneypot staff available?


Rulishix - Today at 5:10 AM
Hmmmm.
Any news about when BTC and LTC deposits will be working again?
I suppose this question belongs in support but this is my first time using Discord so my apologies.


Kitty Mill - Today at 5:20 AM
@MoneyPotSupport

from support

steeeeev - Today at 2:22 AM
any mods here?

steeeeev - Today at 6:47 AM
when will the moneypot wallet be back online?
why do you bother to have a chat room like this if you don't respond? I suppose that's a rhetorical question...

how can @moneypot aka Dogedigital answer your support questions? he is busy playing poker LOL


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[CrazyCraig]

a bit info about Moneypot support. taken from Moneypot discord channel

from general -

BlackSheep (MoneyPot) - 03/23/2018
Hi Kitty Mill
Were going to start being more active in our Discord channel here again.
Issues regarding Flash deposits have been resolved

steeeeev - Yesterday at 2:56 PM
any moneypot staff available?


Rulishix - Today at 5:10 AM
Hmmmm.
Any news about when BTC and LTC deposits will be working again?
I suppose this question belongs in support but this is my first time using Discord so my apologies.


Kitty Mill - Today at 5:20 AM
@MoneyPotSupport

from support

steeeeev - Today at 2:22 AM
any mods here?

steeeeev - Today at 6:47 AM
when will the moneypot wallet be back online?
why do you bother to have a chat room like this if you don't respond? I suppose that's a rhetorical question...

how can @moneypot aka Dogedigital answer your support questions? he is busy playing poker LOL


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We use one of the top cloud providers to host our services. Unfortunately, they are having a major issue in one of their regions with the way they handle traffic. Without getting too technical, in this particular scenario, we cannot restore a backup of the server since the wallets are technically still live. If we restore a wallet while the other said wallet is live, we risk corrupting the wallet.

We have been closely following the issue and have been manually processing deposits and withdrawals as they come through. If a user contacts us, we will credit their account as long as the transaction is provable on the blockchain.

[JackpotRacer]

a bit info about Moneypot support. taken from Moneypot discord channel

from general -

BlackSheep (MoneyPot) - 03/23/2018
Hi Kitty Mill
Were going to start being more active in our Discord channel here again.
Issues regarding Flash deposits have been resolved

steeeeev - Yesterday at 2:56 PM
any moneypot staff available?


Rulishix - Today at 5:10 AM
Hmmmm.
Any news about when BTC and LTC deposits will be working again?
I suppose this question belongs in support but this is my first time using Discord so my apologies.


Kitty Mill - Today at 5:20 AM
@MoneyPotSupport

from support

steeeeev - Today at 2:22 AM
any mods here?

steeeeev - Today at 6:47 AM
when will the moneypot wallet be back online?
why do you bother to have a chat room like this if you don't respond? I suppose that's a rhetorical question...

how can @moneypot aka Dogedigital answer your support questions? he is busy playing poker LOL


Weekly Race Rakes winners

Low Stakes

5 dogedigital 210

Mid Stakes

4 dogedigital 400

We use one of the top cloud providers to host our services. Unfortunately, they are having a major issue in one of their regions with the way they handle traffic. Without getting too technical, in this particular scenario, we cannot restore a backup of the server since the wallets are technically still live. If we restore a wallet while the other said wallet is live, we risk corrupting the wallet.

We have been closely following the issue and have been manually processing deposits and withdrawals as they come through. If a user contacts us, we will credit their account as long as the transaction is provable on the blockchain.

hey CC

thx for the explanation of one problem

but the other very obvious problem is that their is no support for players and that was already before. support is most important but was never taken serious by moneypot. players sending mails or going to discord and dont get answers.

anyway good luck to you