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December 30, 2014, 06:26:27 PM
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All i have in my wallet is an Immature QRk, I'm trying to mine with my desktop ..not really doing so well as only 1.00 Qrk has showed up on the immature list within 8 days ..?will it mature thanks?>!..my address is QaHKTbTayYVDgVYeEJuCF9NtxeTuXur67w if you can spare some quark
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December 30, 2014, 10:12:45 PM
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Many do not understand or comprehend our monetary system. This short video does an excellent job exposing the greatest scam in history. Only when people wake up and share this sort of information will we begin to see change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
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December 31, 2014, 10:56:36 AM
Last edit: December 31, 2014, 01:40:50 PM by silvermetal
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Many do not understand or comprehend our monetary system. This short video does an excellent job exposing the greatest scam in history. Only when people wake up and share this sort of information will we begin to see change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Lol, and after we watched this video we all invest in Quark scammed by Kolin + family? Cheesy

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2nmk98/have_we_been_scammed/
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December 31, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
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Many do not understand or comprehend our monetary system. This short video does an excellent job exposing the greatest scam in history. Only when people wake up and share this sort of information will we begin to see change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Lol, and after we watched this video we all invest in Quark scammed by Kolin + family? Cheesy

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2nmk98/have_we_been_scammed/


just wondering Silvermetal which coins you recommend and why??
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Last edit: January 01, 2015, 11:35:18 AM by silvermetal
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Many do not understand or comprehend our monetary system. This short video does an excellent job exposing the greatest scam in history. Only when people wake up and share this sort of information will we begin to see change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Lol, and after we watched this video we all invest in Quark scammed by Kolin + family? Cheesy

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/2nmk98/have_we_been_scammed/


just wondering Silvermetal which coins you recommend and why??

Only Bitcoin (read disclaimer by maok below).

For altcoins you need to have some background information about scammers and "developers" active at bitcointalk.

The biggest players are (in random order): (If I mention two account names at one bullet point it is either because it is one person or two very closely related persons (hard to tell sometimes). Each player have most probably multiple accounts to scam his coins.)

- r3wt/muddafuddah
Very poor developers. If you want to have a good laugh, read their announcements of nanotoken and ampere for example.
Unfortunately they have created many coins which are of course listed at cryptsy.

- digitalindustry/spoetnik
They can't code, but created coins with the help of hazard and/or Adam. At the moment they are in the business to re-brand dead coins. Also both have lots of miningpower with free electricity (as far as I understand).

- Hazard.
In my eyes the biggest scammer and creator of altcoins. Everybody active in the altcoin market have touched one of his coins. Scams his own coins with multiple accounts. He likes to announce his coins by a developer with no post history, and after the pump-dump the developer "disappears". Hazard does everything to get some attention for his coins. One time his developer died under very vague circumstances at age 27 one week after he published an article about his coin (Huntercoin).
btw the accountname hazard is hardly active at btct anymore. Not sure which accountnames he use now.

- Mullick/BitJohn
Coins created by Mullick is scammed by BitJohn. Every coin created by Mullick is listed at cryptsy. They both work for cryptsy now.

- IgotSpots / BCX
Don't know much about them, but they are one of the biggest scammers at btct. Especially bcx has lots of miningpower as far as I can understand.

- Shake
Created much coins for others, but also for his own gain (cent is a poor example). Not more than a copy coin creator.


Coins from above persons are only nice for quick profits (not long term). Just ride with them the waves (pump and dumps). If they say "buy buy buy", you must "sell sell sell" before they do it. Never ever hold their coins long term!! Even if Bill Still tells you to do so Wink


What is needed for a good coin (in my opinion):
- large community
- transparent funds for infrastructure, development and marketing
- circulation of coins (at exchanges and/or for goods / miners) for a healthy network
- trust
- dedicated developer(s)


In my eyes the only altcoin which complies close to above criteria is Doge. I think you can hold some Doge without too many risk that it is a dead coin next week. All the other alt coins are just Hypecoins with some nice features sometimes. Yesterday it was Vert and DRK, today it is XPY...tomorrow it is???

To be clear; would I recommend Doge? No

Aren't there "fair" coins? Sure no doubt.
But "fair" coins can't survive, because they will not be notified when it isn't scammed. That is the sad story about alt coins at the moment.






 








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January 01, 2015, 11:18:13 AM
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@silvermetal good advice to be careful in which currencies to invest, their background and community should be at forefront of anyone thinking of seriously investing in them, however you must remember that Quark is an small currency only been around for less than 2 years, its a CPU minable coin which means that a lot of newbies can come only to learn about the technology and not necessarily invest in it.

We do have an active developer/s with Quark which may not have so much public contact but anyone check the public work that has been going on for upgrading the code and improving it on github. Quark has a security level with the random hashing functions that makes quarkers feel a bit more safe than other coins holders, the devs have implemented protection against double spending attacks which again feels more secure than most of the other coins; and we have the fundamental original system which partially gives a coin its worth, namely the proof of work. Without proof of work a coin is only worth the hype that is surrounding it, with proof of work we get the assurance that a currency is always going to be worth something as those that have put in the work to mine won't drop it without getting back the cost for doing that work.

I think your mentality about crypto currencies is wrong from the get-go. Unlike national currencies(throughout history of mankind there have been thousands of currencies which disappeared) crypto coins will never be dead as long as I can send a payment to someone else using the coin's network. You always talk about `dead` coin/s but you forget to mention that you only talk from a financial point of view not from a technological one.

As long as you talk financially about a crypto coin and its death, and at the same time you recommend only Bitcoin, may I remind you a valuable investment lesson: even in Bitcoin don't invest the money that you can't afford to lose, because there is a small probability that Bitcoin value will keep collapsing in the future, like it has done from last year. If fact don't ever try to bring someone to crypto currencies by recommending them to invest in them. If you are going to recommend a crypto coin to someone else only do it from a technological aspect and teach him how to mine, how easily is to send payments, maybe they could ask payments themselves in that currency and slowly that will create a small but healthy financial ecosystem.

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January 01, 2015, 03:34:21 PM
Last edit: January 01, 2015, 03:45:32 PM by silvermetal
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It was not an investment advice, but to be sure I placed a disclaimer in my post.

I don't think my mentality was wrong from the get-go.
Only thing you can accuse me is to be naive and not very realistic when I was active for Quark promotions six months ago.
I have always realized that whenever bitcoin will not succeed, no other alt coin will succeed as well.

Quark is not easy to mine as suggested by some people. You need a powerful CPU (at least an i7), to collect 1 or 2 Quark per day. The electricity power you need to mine Quark is not in correlation what you can collect. In my Quark promotions I always said that when you mine Quark, you make the Quark network stronger, and then the value of Quark will increase. But I should have put a disclaimer in that sentence as well. It will always be the other way around. Miners are attracted by the price of a coin, miners are not interested to make a coin more valuable.

Okok I agree coins can't die, but if it is not adopted by a wide variety of people / merchants, it will lose it's value. Quark has a very big trust issue from the get-go and it is almost impossible to recover from that as long as some scammers are still involved with Quark. And that Quark is only 2 years old, is in my opinion more a disadvantage than an advantage (2 years is too old for an alt coin, there are far more better coins circulating with some nice features). Quark failed to grasp it's opportunity at least twice. More chances Quark will not get (in my opinion).

Active developerS? working for Quark?...you mean at least Max?...sigh...







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It was not an investment advice, but to be sure I placed a disclaimer in my post.
Oh so nice, but no one that truly believes in crypto give 2 pennies on investments advices. We believe in crypto not for getting rich, but for becoming free from our governments who shouldn't have the right to control the money. No one here reading these pages will buy quark or bitcoin because you said something positive about it, don't worry about your disclaimer lol..

Only thing you can accuse me is to be naive and not very realistic when I was active for Quark promotions six months ago.
I hope you don't live in regrets all your life :-) You weren't naive, you simply believed in something in which you don't believe now, its part of everyone's life don't worry you're not so special.

I have always realized that whenever bitcoin will not succeed, no other alt coin will succeed as well.
Bitcoin is succeeding every day, there are daily more merchants joining, more adoption, it is successful but again you forget to mention that you're referring to the price of Bitcoin which yes you're right is not doing well for those that only joined crypto for investing only.

Quark is not easy to mine as suggested by some people. You need a powerful CPU (at least an i7), to collect 1 or 2 Quark per day. The electricity power you need to mine Quark is not in correlation what you can collect. In my Quark promotions I always said that when you mine Quark, you make the Quark network stronger, and then the value of Quark will increase. But I should have put a disclaimer in that sentence as well. It will always be the other way around. Miners are attracted by the price of a coin, miners are not interested to make a coin more valuable.
You've slipped into other subject here. The point I was making was that proof of work is what gives the coin the partial value and why it will always be worth something. Oh and Quark is very easy to mine because guess what, almost everyone in the civilized countries has a PC which they can use to mine, they don't need to buy special equipment or spend huge amounts of money for the energy consumed.

Quark has a very big trust issue from the get-go and it is almost impossible to recover from that as long as some scammers are still involved with Quark. And that Quark is only 2 years old, is in my opinion more a disadvantage than an advantage (2 years is too old for an alt coin, there are far more better coins circulating with some nice features). Quark failed to grasp it's opportunity at least twice. More chances Quark will not get (in my opinion).
Let me remind you that just a post ago you said all coins in your view have a big trust issue, and you only recommend Bitcoin. Why do you recommend Bitcoin by the way ? You say that scammers are involved in Quark, then how do you know that in Bitcoin there aren't involved any scammers ? In fact Bitcoin has attracted the large portion of bad actors thanks to its value and we've seen that with the most famous mtgox scandal.. you're logic in regard to crypto currencies is so flawed that I doubt you'll ever understand what its all about.

Oh and the scammers that were involved with Quark have been exposed by coinmama and thrown out of the community(eg. Kolin), so please if you have the names of other scammers that are involved let the public know, don't hold the names back please!


Active developerS? working for Quark?...you mean at least Max?...sigh... Whenever it becomes difficult, Max walks away. Never stands up for his own "baby".
As you very well know, Max has been helped by Adam and Geoffrey on code updates. When it becomes difficult Max finds a solution like he has done last year with implementing the double spending prevention mechanism, like he has tried to do when taking part in the chats which you(among others) requested. I don't know if you took part in those chats but I hope you called him a baby back then when he was present.

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January 01, 2015, 06:15:48 PM
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Lol, you enjoy twisting my intentions and words don't you Wink

1. No, it was not an advice for investment. And no I have no illusion that one person will follow my advice.

2. Good to hear that I am not the only person  Roll Eyes

3. You are partly correct. Everybody can indeed mine and contribute to the Quark hashing rate. But if you want to collect Quarks you need a powerful CPU (at least an i7). With my i5 laptop I have never earned one single Quark. My laptop only went very hot.

4a. Of course you have also scammers in the bitcoin world, but you can't compare the bitcoin community in size with the Quark community.  

4b. Maybe you want to place a rectification by yourself. Who threw Kolin's scam out to the public without consulting the Quark members? Well? One hint, that wasn't coinmama. She just informed (by e-mail!!) you and abdell, because you were moderators at reddit and should know with who you had to deal with.

5. Adam and Geoffrey left the Quark community long time ago. You make it sound like there are more active developers active for Quark now.

I called Max a "baby" Huh maybe read my quote again Wink
Max wants to solve all problems for Quark? Maybe, but not for free. Do you want me to look up what Max asked to merge mine Quark with another coin? I have his quotation somewhere stored in my archive Wink





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Lol, you enjoy twisting my intentions and words don't you Wink

1. No, it was not an advice for investment. And no I have no illusion that one person will follow my advice.

2. Good to hear that I am not the only person  Roll Eyes

3. You are partly correct. Everybody can indeed mine and contribute to the Quark hashing rate. But if you want to collect Quarks you need a powerful CPU (at least an i7). With my i5 laptop I have never earned one single Quark. My laptop only went very hot.

4a. Of course you have also scammers in the bitcoin world, but you can't compare the bitcoin community in size with the Quark community.  

4b. Maybe you want to place a rectification by yourself. Who threw Kolin's scam out to the public without consulting the Quark members? Well? One hint, that wasn't coinmama. She just informed (by e-mail!!) you and abdell, because you were moderators at reddit and should know with who you had to deal with.

5. Adam and Geoffrey left the Quark community long time ago. You make it sound like there are more active developers active for Quark now.

I called Max a "baby" Huh maybe read my quote again Wink
Max wants to solve all problems for Quark? Maybe, but not for free. Do you want me to look up what Max asked to merge mine Quark with another coin? I have his quotation somewhere stored in my archive Wink

3.  Full of shit as usual.  I mine Quark on a a Q6600 cpu from 2008 with only 2 of 4 threads enabled (~224khash/s) and still get a Quark or two or three rolling in each day.  You must be pretty retarded to not have ever even mined a single Quark.  Sounds like you are as good at mining as you are at promotion.  Looks like as usual the only thing you are good at is making yourself look like a fool.  Pretty hard to make a worse mistake than listing Spoetnik as Dev of anything...not a surprise that it would be you making such an idiotic claim.



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January 01, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
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Hilux, what a surprise you pop up again!!  Roll Eyes
You forget to tell that "I am a liar" or similar.

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3. You are partly correct. Everybody can indeed mine and contribute to the Quark hashing rate. But if you want to collect Quarks you need a powerful CPU (at least an i7). With my i5 laptop I have never earned one single Quark. My laptop only went very hot.
Well thats good news, the Quark network is not that weak to be mined with a laptop, you do need a PC for that. :-)

4a. Of course you have also scammers in the bitcoin world, but you can't compare the bitcoin community in size with the Quark community.  
Well the major difference is that In Quark there have been scam attempts while in Bitcoin there have been major fraud with hundred of millions of dollars stolen from people! So take a look at the bigger picture and think again if you want to keep recommend Bitcoin lol. Of course it isn't Bitcoin or Quark fault that these scams were attempted or even successful but in your wrong mentality of crypto currencies you blame one but close your eyes at the other.

4b. Maybe you want to place a rectification by yourself. Who threw Kolin's scam out to the public without consulting the Quark members? Well? One hint, that wasn't coinmama. She just informed (by e-mail!!) you and abdell, because you were moderators at reddit and should know with who you had to deal with.
I truly hope you're not blaming me for informing the world of Kolin scam attempts? Well, actually if I wouldn't had made those public then Abel would have anyways. But without coinmama we wouldn't had known anything and people would have still trusted Kolin words.

5. Adam and Geoffrey left the Quark community long time ago. You make it sound like there are more active developers active for Quark now.
No, you're wrong, Adam left Quark due to financial reasons of not being able to spend his time without getting paid(like most bitcoin devs are btw) but Geoffrey is still involved with Quark as far as I know.

I called Max a "baby" Huh maybe read my quote again Wink
I'm sorry, I thought you insulted Max for walking away. Calling him a baby I thought was part of the insult :-) Anyway you did let him know `face to face` what you thought about him, in the chat, right?


Max wants to solve all problems for Quark? Maybe, but not for free. Do you want me to look up what Max asked to merge mine Quark with another coin? I have his quotation somewhere stored in my archive Wink
Maybe ?? Look at the github dates and you won't find the maybe in there, you'll find work done almost in every month of Quark existence, work that was not paid for as you know Max never mined Quark so he never had anything to benefit from improving and maintaining the network's code.

Bitcoin developers are paid, why wouldn't Quark devs get paid if someone from the community wanted Max to do the work for other coin to merge mine with Quark?

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I truly hope you're not blaming me for informing the world of Kolin scam attempts? Well, actually if I wouldn't had made those public then Abel would have anyways. But without coinmama we wouldn't had known anything and people would have still trusted Kolin words.


At that moment it was inappropriate to do that. You hardly knew who Kolin was (or you pretended that you hardly knew him). Then it raised a few question marks why you did that. Abdell is a complete different story, he was moderator long time before you arrived. And I am sure Abdell, would have first contacted coinmama and the rest of the community before publishing it. Abdell asked me also a few times advice before he banned Kolin from reddit.

No, you're wrong, Adam left Quark due to financial reasons of not being able to spend his time without getting paid(like most bitcoin devs are btw) but Geoffrey is still involved with Quark as far as I know.

Lol, how do you know about Adam? You were not copied in the e-mail when I received an explanation from Adam what we should know more about Quark. But what does it matter. Adam doesn't want to be correlated with Quark.. ever...whatever the reason is according to you.

I'm sorry, I thought you insulted Max for walking away. Calling him a baby I thought was part of the insult :-) Anyway you did let him know `face to face` what you thought about him, in the chat, right?


What are my thoughts about Max according to you? You make it look like I hold negative feelings towards him?
During the IRC I was thrown out of the chat, and when I returned Max left. I had no chance to speak with him.
The only thing what the foundation found very disturbing, was that he was very absent and it was hardly impossible to make an appointment with him. He just did not react to the e-mails (EDIT: Except when you asked Kolin whether Max could answer his e-mail lol).


Bitcoin developers are paid, why wouldn't Quark devs get paid if someone from the community wanted Max to do the work for other coin to merge mine with Quark?

Sure sure, what was the price he asked for...hm...from the top of my head...it was equal to a year salary; 40 or 50.000 dollars Cheesy
Then you are in my eyes lost from reality. And then the foundation (a group of volunteers) should have paid him Huh because that happened, the people who donated the most for the Quark projects, were the foundation members... Not the bagholders....


Edit:

See reaction maok below...sigh....
As so many times maok and me are not talking at one frequency...not sure whether he is doing that intentional or he really doesn't understand my posts.....

1. Adam was indeed a developer for Quark from November 2013 till about July/Augustus 2014. Did I ever deny that? anyway, to make it clear: In October 2014 Adam sent a long explanation mail and asked whether he could be removed from the Quark websites that he is a member of the Quark foundation.

2. If he doesn't understand the price of 40-50.000 dollars he should ask instead of making his own conclusions. But thanks to the interference of Max it is more clear for him now (I hope).




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Lol, how do you know about Adam? You were not copied in the e-mail when I received an explanation from Adam what we should know more about Quark. But what does it matter. Adam doesn't want to be correlated with Quark.. ever...whatever the reason is according to you.
lol, Max acknowledged in a chat you guys had that Adam was very helpful in coding for Quark.


Sure sure, what was the price he asked for...hm...from the top of my head...it was equal to a year salary; 40 or 50.000 dollars Cheesy
Then you are in my eyes lost from reality. And then the foundation (a group of volunteers) should have paid him Huh because that happened, the people who donated the most for the Quark projects, were the foundation members... Not the bagholders....

lol, you need to read more carefully what others are talking with you in a conversation. I never said you should have paid Max, I actually said Max never once asked to get paid for continually improving Quark network. I have no idea what the 40-50K salary was about but if it involved doing the work for other coins so they can merge mine with Quark then sure why not raise that money from the big bagholders if they really wanted to merge mine.

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January 01, 2015, 09:54:44 PM
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Sure sure, what was the price he asked for...hm...from the top of my head...it was equal to a year salary; 40 or 50.000 dollars Cheesy

That is a complete fabrication. I have never asked to get paid to work on Quark.
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Sure sure, what was the price he asked for...hm...from the top of my head...it was equal to a year salary; 40 or 50.000 dollars Cheesy

That is a complete fabrication. I have never asked to get paid to work on Quark.


Complete fabrication? Really? How come Victor proposed below?

That it is not complete fabrication and the 40-50.000 dollars are not made up by me I will show to the others:

Below the e-mails I received from Victor (he was part of Max's merge mine team). When I asked Victor how much we have to pay Max for the project (Victor was the spokesman for the merge mine project, because Max didn't communicate). Here the e-mail correspondence:

First I asked Victor how much Max wants for the merge mine project, here Victor's answer:

Quote from: victor date=5July2014

1% of the first years supply at a market cap of $5 million would be ~$50,000; that would be ~3.5 million Quark at this stage. This would not be unrealistic to give to him in a premine scenario.

Then some people from the foundation asked Victor for an explanation about why to pay so much money to Max, and Victor answered:

Quote from: victor date=5July2014

the point is that that is the amount that he could realistically get in many other scenarios if he works either for us or someone else. That has to be taken into account as we plan. $50,000 is one year of salary for a middling job in North America - and we are hoping he will work for us for the next 5+ years... Max is not currently very engaged in Quark for a reason - he has minimal stake in it, and he has repeatedly stated his minimal stake. If we can't re-engage him for real over the long term, then Quark, which he largely has control of, will not survive. Considering how many millionaires Bitcoin has made, $50,000 is not much...

The assumption is not that he has completely abandoned Quark but that given his relative inactivity, we can assume that his attention is very split, or his interest is pretty lukewarm. If we want to secure his efforts over years, then we need to pay him adequately - "adequately" is determined by the market, and that above figure is by no means an unrealistic offer for either us or others to make.

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January 02, 2015, 05:51:20 AM
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Hilux, what a surprise you pop up again!!  Roll Eyes
You forget to tell that "I am a liar" or similar.



Actually I did.  First sentence said you were full of shit.  Looks like you are once again showing off your spectacular observational skills by missing the glaringly obvious.   Grin  No wonder you weave such imaginative tales from things you read...because you don't understand what you read.

Also notice quite a few people calling you a liar today.  shame shame.
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January 02, 2015, 09:50:16 AM
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who is dev of this coin ?
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Last edit: January 02, 2015, 11:26:43 AM by silvermetal
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Hilux, what a surprise you pop up again!!  Roll Eyes
You forget to tell that "I am a liar" or similar.



Actually I did.  First sentence said you were full of shit.  Looks like you are once again showing off your spectacular observational skills by missing the glaringly obvious.   Grin  No wonder you weave such imaginative tales from things you read...because you don't understand what you read.

Also notice quite a few people calling you a liar today.  shame shame.

Hm, if I am in your words "full of shit", and if according to you other people call me a "liar"....how do other people think about you Huh

Instead of twisting other people words and intentions and come with homemade interpretations, I just provide a link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg9895334#msg9895334

Then readers can make up their own interpretation of the content of the post and hilux74 Wink
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January 02, 2015, 10:17:50 AM
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Sure sure, what was the price he asked for...hm...from the top of my head...it was equal to a year salary; 40 or 50.000 dollars Cheesy

That is a complete fabrication. I have never asked to get paid to work on Quark.


i heard you are dev of many other coins? can you confirm this?
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