[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[digitalindustry]

Thanks! The 3D Printer we are showcasing on the website right now is a very early prototype of the ISG 11 that we are releasing in 2 weeks.

We will have the chance to keep you updated on that matter, but we are releasing a brand new line of printers with very high print quality.

i'll be interested and check it out for sure - i know many people around the free world are interested in 3D printing.  : )

[1713895298]

1713895298

[1713895298]

1713895298

[1713895298]

1713895298

[1713895298]

1713895298

[1713895298]

1713895298

[1713895298]

1713895298

[johnywalker]

Respected community, we want to remind you that Quark is traded on Comkort exchange!
We will be glad you!

Three markets are live QRK <-> BTC, LTC, DOGE.

Best buy prices:
0.0000217 BTC per 1 QRK - BTC market

Happy & Profitable Trading!

[eBit]

LOL! Looks like Quark'll get you high.

http://newsbtc.com/2015/01/19/silk-road-reloaded-add-new-altcoins-payment-options/

[Hilux74]

LOL! Looks like Quark'll get you high.

http://newsbtc.com/2015/01/19/silk-road-reloaded-add-new-altcoins-payment-options/

500,000 QRK buy order on Cryptsy right now....someone is planning to PARTY! 

[quarkfx]

At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

Few days ago you would have needed only 80M to perform a 51% attack, if someone had really been interested to knock down the network he could do that by temporarily ordering a few number of virtual machines. It would probably have costed less than 1000$. Even that was too much to perform an attack, noone cares.

The Hashrate hasn´t been that low since December 2013, still in December the situation was better because it wasn´t that centralized - even though it was really bad:

As you can read from this post the Hashrate of Coinmine in December 2013 was about 90%. Today it has 98.96% with 406M Hashrate (don´t believe it? click here). There is basically noone solo mining. Quark IS coinmine.pl.

Waiting for Digitalindustry or Hillux to come and claim that Quark is the best and most decentralized currency.

I´d be interested in an explanation how Quark could ever get away from being centralized at coinmine.pl

[K1773R]

At the current hashrate of the coin , how many i7 processors it will take to do a 51%?

Few days ago you would have needed only 80M to perform a 51% attack, if someone had really been interested to knock down the network he could do that by temporarily ordering a few number of virtual machines. It would probably have costed less than 1000$. Even that was too much to perform an attack, noone cares.

The Hashrate hasn´t been that low since December 2013, still in December the situation was better because it wasn´t that centralized - even though it was really bad:

As you can read from this post the Hashrate of Coinmine in December 2013 was about 90%. Today it has 98.96% with 406M Hashrate (don´t believe it? click here). There is basically noone solo mining. Quark IS coinmine.pl.

Waiting for Digitalindustry or Hillux to come and claim that Quark is the best and most decentralized currency.

I´d be interested in an explanation how Quark could ever get away from being centralized at coinmine.pl

thats the miners fault. most miners are braindead and just follow guides/copy-paste.
tough a pool that cares about such situations, would not allow itself to grow that big. obviously, this isnt such a pool.

[maok]

they are braindead  because if they'd solo mine they could also participate in the jackpot and win lots more quarks, the winners from Christmas are: http://quarktalk.org/threads/mining-jackpot-winner-s.1006/ the next draw will be on 21 July 2015 so anyone wishing to get out of the pool you could be lucky and win much more 

As for the attacks and destruction lol, there's nothing much any majority can do without harming itself, plus Quark has double spending protection unlike most other crypto currencies so we are protected form any form of fraud as long as you keep your private keys safe.

[amarian12]

http://qrk.e-pool.net:8910/static/

Enjoy e-pool mining!

[quarkfx]

thats the miners fault. most miners are braindead and just follow guides/copy-paste.
tough a pool that cares about such situations, would not allow itself to grow that big. obviously, this isnt such a pool.

It doesn´t matter whose fault it is, what matters is that Quark is 99% centralized at coinmine.pl which means that if coinmine.pl has any sort of issue, the network will collapse and remain unstable for enough time to perform any sort of attacks. As I said, I don´t expect any attacks, but there is no way to call Quark secure anymore. #

Also, you should be aware of the fact that it is not the responsibility of the pool to stay under 51% hashrate: There is a strong incentive with all PoW coins to join a pool. The only incentive not to do so is a "jackpot" that people don´t bother to play, because its peanuts (even though I agree that the reward is an even smaller peanut).

@maok

they are braindead  Cheesy because if they'd solo mine they could also participate in the jackpot and win lots more quarks, the winners from Christmas are: http://quarktalk.org/threads/mining-jackpot-winner-s.1006/ the next draw will be on 21 July 2015 so anyone wishing to get out of the pool you could be lucky and win much more  Wink

Should I tell you again why noone participates in your "jackpot". They are not braindead, they probably simply forgot to switch off their machines from mining Quark or they are a small number of servers where someone sometime pointed a miner to coinmine.pl.

As for the attacks and destruction lol, there's nothing much any majority can do without harming itself,

How long have you been in crypto? Are you aware of the attacks that have been performed, even though that would somehow hurt your logic that they are harming themselves? Do you know that there are 14 years old, writing worms that can effectively kill people when entering sensible systems like hospitals just for the sake of it? The only reason that Quark runs is that there are very few who would care to kill one out of hundred unimportant cryptocurrencies.

plus Quark has double spending protection unlike most other crypto currencies so we are protected form any form of fraud as long as you keep your private keys safe.

Sorry, but that´s horseshit. "any form of fraud"? Really? Are you even aware of the different types of attacks that can be performed? Double-spending is just one out of many. Also, checkpointing can be ddosed and no, the few hundred nodes Quark still has are not many. What makes you think that? Even Auroracoin has still 200 nodes even if it´s dead.

You know Maok, we don´t need to agree on the security of Quark but your way of arguing is pathetic. If you don´t think it´s a problem that a decentralized currency is effectively centralized at one pool then I don´t get what you are doing here. And with regard to the argument you made on Reddit, a cryptocurrency can´t be destroyed, you absolutely miss the point. No, a cryptocurrency can´t be destroyed this way. In the end it´s only a protocol. However, value can be destroyed if a network forks due it´s weekness. You really sound like Digitalindustry: rejecting any sort of rational criticism and evangelizing the great advantages of a currency that noone else is interested in.

Please repeat: Quark is coinmine.pl



 

[maok]

quarkfx, you had me at 14 yo killing people .. say again the quarktalk jackpot in which more than 40 individual SOLO miners participated the first time round, say again what ? say "noone participates" please repeat that.

Quark isn't secure great thanks for your opinion, you can move to another coin now which is more secure ;-)

[coinerer]

It seems new round of selling is finished. Now it is time to buy lower. And again...

[coinerer]

While waiting for lower price, you can try to check if everything is ok with new OpenSSL 1.0.2 in my Quark wallets at:

                                         http://quarkcoin.orgfree.com

Always do backups of your wallets!

[quarkfx]

quarkfx, you had me at 14 yo killing people .. say again the quarktalk jackpot in which more than 40 individual SOLO miners participated the first time round, say again what ? say "noone participates" please repeat that.

Quark isn't secure great thanks for your opinion, you can move to another coin now which is more secure ;-)

Sorry for you to not get the reference. You were the one arguing that noone would attack Quark because it won´t make sense - I simply argued that damage is done no matter if it makes sense.

Wow, 40 (in letters: fourty - CRAZY!) entries in one round (how long was that again). And now what? Do you think that´s many? That´s nothing. Beside that, how would you possibly know they are individuals? Technically it could be even one person.

I am coming back every now and then to see the "progress" that the few lasting Quarkers evangelize. I am glad to see that there are less and less people falling for the "keep smiling and forget about every criticism" attitude. In my first post I addressed the factual centralization of Quark and you come up with a pathetic "Hey, but we are protected against everything", which is either a lie or plain lack of understanding crypto. btw.

And don´t worry, I am not talking to you, since I know there is no way to keep you from believing that everything is fine - I am writing so people who think about getting into Quark think again.

[maok]

Sorry for you to not get the reference. You were the one arguing that noone would attack Quark because it won´t make sense - I simply argued that damage is done no matter if it makes sense.

No I didn't argued that, you must've read someone else posts. I said that anyone who controls the majority of mining is not capable of doing any harm without tricking themselves as well. Its irrelevant what anyone attacks if they can't harm it then no one needs to be worried. Of course your behaviour of FUD is quite similar to former quakers who had the same attitude when they've sold out, its totally normal I guess. You sold at a loss and now you're fuming out on everyone connected with Quark.

Wow, 40 (in letters: fourty - CRAZY!) entries in one round (how long was that again). And now what? Do you think that´s many? That´s nothing. Beside that, how would you possibly know they are individuals? Technically it could be even one person.

No, technically no. If you meant hypothetically, yes they could be the same person but based on the entries and IPs I highly doubt  someone would go to such length when every single entry counts only as one.
And yes thats much considering how much attack the forum got from either side of fences, on one hand Digi's followers were lied that we want to destroy Quark, and now the former quarkers with which I've started are getting back at with their own way of bashing. Its hard to get across the alternative current of which both impulses are on the negative side, but there you go 40 solo miners willing to participate in a contest in which they may win money; not much only about 150 dollars the big prize but still not hard to say yes for those with an idle PC at home :-)

I am coming back every now and then to see the "progress" that the few lasting Quarkers evangelize. I am glad to see that there are less and less people falling for the "keep smiling and forget about every criticism" attitude. In my first post I addressed the factual centralization of Quark and you come up with a pathetic "Hey, but we are protected against everything", which is either a lie or plain lack of understanding crypto. btw.

`Factual centralization` proves nothing bad about Quark only that the current state is being controlled by a majority pool who cannot double spend, but only withdraw their power. Due to the fork we recently had that pool on 11th Jan was down and quark hashrate was still maintained above 150MH/s, now we're back at around 400MH/s. The pool controls a solid majority of hashing power but of course you fail to see that once more users join in with hashing power on other pools or solo mining, the numbers will even out among many other miners, but that will only happen in time. Bitcoin never faced with this in its first 2-3 years because the pools weren't invented yet so of course things will progress a bit differently nowadays with a young currency.

If someone really wanted to attack Quark they wouldn't need a fucking public pool to do it thats what you forget when you talk about mining centralization. The attackers at the current hashrate would need more than 1000 botnets to have control over Quark's block emission power and the only thing that they would accomplish would be to delay transactions for other legit users, nothing more.
If you think that delaying transactions in Quark which is a 2 year old crypto currency is worthwhile for a group of hackers then you must be mad. Once Quark becomes more popular the mining power will increase accordingly and the delaying of transactions attack will get harder and harder.

And don´t worry, I am not talking to you, since I know there is no way to keep you from believing that everything is fine - I am writing so people who think about getting into Quark think again.

Glad you cleared that up, but like I dealt before with bitcoin disappointed-turned-into-fudsters types,  I don't mind dealing with quark-them as well.. Oh and yes everything could be fine or very wrong depending from which perspective you look from.. politicians turn literally everything into the worst or best thing every day.. so of course you can continue to look at Quark from the worst possible angle while others like me will prefer to look from a concerned but constructive side instead from the sidelines.

[quarkfx]

Yay there you go, the FUD accuse. Look maok, I know you think you are the (only) one who looks  rationally on things, but you obviously don't know what FUD is. I am pointing out facts that YOU and other Quark reminiscence prefer not to talk about.

"The pool controls a solid majority of hashing power but of course you fail to see that once more users join in with hashing power on other pools or solo mining, the numbers will even out among many other miners, but that will only happen in time. "

Give me a break....the pool has a "solid majority"? Dude it's 99% if you like it or not and that's not a solid majority but "basically everything".
And what's that strange theory? People with more hashing power will come and solo mine? Why would they? I asked  you this question before: what makes you think that people will start solo mining long term? The only incentive is a tiny jackpot that is not permanent but based on donations. The reason why people gather at coinmine is the same why Bitcoin minera are gathering at Ghash. You can of course assume that people will act irrationally, but to me that's a strange (or rather pathetic) way to deal with facts.

I am not bashing, I am delivering facts that you prefer not to talk about (or have you? I couldn't fibe one thread about it). You probably know that, but I have dozens of mails that proof that even Max and Adam were aware of the issues with the centralization at coinmine.pl and the decreasing hashrate. That was one of the reason why we seeked to find more incentives.  If you prefer to argue against the developer that invented the whole thing then you must have a surprisingly negative image of Quarks development. You can go claiming that there is no problem whatsoever. I'll come back to remwmver you of your posts when things fall to an all new low.

[maok]

I'm afraid to talk about it and yet I responded every time to those concerns, heck I even created the jackpot to try to find small but in time feasible solutions. The points in low hashrate has been the subject from as long as I found out about Quark, back in June last year people were worried, now again you are worried(why I wonder as you're not involved in anything anymore), as I said in my last sentece if you bother to read I said I am concerned but thing is that, the coin pool or anyone who gathers sufficient mining power can only do as much harm as delay transactions. Of course for a big crypto currency like Bitcoin that would be devastating but for a crypto currency like Quark which doesn't handle alot of business transactions it really wouldn't matter if an army of thousands of botnets or that pool would refuse to relay the legit transactions for a few hours or days. Once quark or any crypto currency gathers more adopters you will see or have seen in other crypto currencies that the hashrate will also raise because the value will raise and so on. Thing is once Quark is a worthy currency for real use, if ever, will be strongly protected by the decentralization in mining power.

The alternative options like the contest was exactly to educate people about these sort of problems but not spread FUD because there are people even with 1-2 pages behind that think someone could steal their quarks if there's a fork or something among those lines.. so basic line is this.. that pool has a solid majority, more than 50% which is enough (not 99% like you exagerate ) its not good but its not harmful in this stage of Quark adoption because the only harm they can possibly do is delay transactions which would be unpleasant but survivable ;-)

[thejaytiesto]

I bought back in the day and still hold my QRK, but im still on a loss.
What is the situation with Bill Still, does he still support this or he has sold? He never talks about cryptos anymore in his program.

[WillowRosenberg]

And suddenly all the FUDers re-appear.

[maok]

And suddenly all the FUDers re-appear.

the last one is just so cute though, he keeps repeating same story over and over again, hopefully someone will listen to him :-) almost makes me feel sorry for him  

LE: the only lunatic who made my ignore list was digitalindustry, now counting 2 

[dragonseer]

Quark 0.9.2.2

* Checkpoint added
* Github updated with patches for backward incompatibility in OpenSSL 1.0.1k/l.
* Windows version built using OpenSSL 1.0.1j until Bitcoin Core finalises its changes for OpenSSL 1.0.1k/l.

You might have to run your wallet with the -reindex option the first time after upgrading to ensure you are on the correct chain.

Windows Qt wallet 0.9.2.2 (zip)

Win32
Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!F8tFAZKA!2lXc7tm25q-6zdt5IhvRGq8xBvMRNSCGqjEH6TMPeck
Dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com/s/oyjfdw7ebfxcu2o/quark0.9.2.2win32.zip?dl=0
File hash: SHA1 37E17FCA0746EFAF7D2813FC9307012C78183B92

Win64
Mega - https://mega.co.nz/#!1hMljbQL!4iEuJrQF1waGQfmnuW49e0awSyjNoL98BS5Cp3k4g_M
Dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4r8kfia9ovp61rb/quark0.9.2.2win64.zip?dl=0
File hash: SHA1 8EEAC99F22F23DC6951A798536B03D8E1DA65E78

Edit: Superseded by 0.9.2.3

OK so apparently the windows wallet works, I have my Quarks on Mac though where there is no working wallet, much like the android wallet, who is able to update it?