@thule
4+5 are easy to answer.Max didnt worked much on Quark because he released several other coins on this board.He come to quark once kolin had majority of coins from quark.Max is/was a friend of Kolin coworking with him period.
If you own 100.000.000 coins you can't dump them for $0.3 thats impossible you would need have investors for $30.000.000 which was btw at that time the trading volume for bitcoin.
So when dumping even 30-40 million coins thats already a big amount of money you need first find investors for it.
You also claim that bill still audience are holding now the coins and are not selling.You wanna really tell me that the massiv amount of 1.000.000-2.000.000 wallets belong to bill still audience ?How much you think they invested each like $200k-600k ?Thats a bit unrealistic.If you check the blockchain these accounts have been splitted from 2 or 3 main wallets .No exchange no nothing.
Next that Bill Still received a bribe from Kolin has been proofed.His wallet was posted by him and Kolin where you could see on the blockchain that he received 2 times 500.000 coins .
Maybe ask Max why all of his coins on this board were a pump and dump ......its obvious that he coworked with max and that each of his coin had a 6 month mine timeframe and after that a pump and dump where after the dump max always left the coin going to the next one.
You call that a serious dev or somebody who wants to make quick money to scam people.
Why don't you ask Max for his real name and identity ?Start asking......who he is since once quark will fall again you won't see max anymore
1. can you provide evidence max and kolin are friends colluding together.
2. how can kolin have got the majority of the coins since i told you it is provable stephen took the vast bulk in the mining even I got 1 million so others with more rigs than me (small fish) must have got multiple millions.
3. THIS IS THE KEY POINT -
a- bills people started coming at 200 sats - they could have and did accumulate a lot on the way to 30,000 sats.
b- let's look at the block explorer because I wage a lot of these big wallets were purchased on the way up to the 30,000 sats pump and for sure at way higher prices that it is now. These are not dishonest scam pumpers these are investors that thought quark was going places.
4- bill still point is new to me I never knew it was proven that kolin gave him 1 million.
However i do remember a thread coming to think about it where kolin said every donation to bill that the community gave he will match it. So yes indeed at one point DI must have had quite a lot of quark.
This in itself is not really bad. I would pay celebrities or whoever to promote my coin and several other coins have tried it. Some may have an issue with paying people to promote a coin. I personally would have no issue with that.
Even if DI had a lot of quark though he MUST have mined it fairly or bought it fairly on the marketplace. There was no other way. I mean even say he had 20 rigs he could have mined millions and millions if he left them on their solidly. But then so could anyone else.
I turned against DI when he started trying to make that other quark rip off coin. You can check my post history on this thread calling it a scam coin.
5. I know you think 1m and 2m wallets is a huge wallet but in crypto those % of the minting are not unusual in any coin. Please verify that for yourself. I am part of many communities where people commonly try to accumulate 10% of the minting. Especially in small MC projects.
6. Max is not a developer that seems to stick to one project. This is HIS mistake in my opinion. I have met many developers like this. Some far worse than him who deliberately self destruct coins after they suck all the financial gain from them. Max could have made a fortune from quark since it has so much support here but if he chose to work on many other coins for short term small rewards that is his mistake. The most wealthy developers focus on one project and one project alone building them to a very successful and widely used product.
Quark was flawed from the start because you can not have short emission pow coins without moving to POS after I said this and campaigned here in 2014 for a shift to pos and a funding mechanism for another developer.. This was quarks error not doing so and also having a developer that never posts or shows interest will eventually lead to the death of your project even though quark has functioned flawlessly for years and has received vital updates to keep it secure so far.
I am hoping for better things from MAX and these new coders from now on. I am not looking for a quick pump and dump of quark but a continued and progressive project that will bring something needed and will bring nice returns to those that invest and support the project. This is all one can ask from any project.
Many devs disappoint although they can have great skill. Take CZ for example many coders acknowledge that he is a super skilled verging on genius developer. Some have suggested he is even satoshi and they have presented argument for such. However he is flaky and bbr looks like its on a death row whilst its competition is in the top 10.
I don't expect him to divulge his real id. No more than jl777 or cz or satoshi. I respect here anon is fine.
I am not saying to people dive in on the hopes of a road map. Let's wait and see what code is produced on quark and judge then. I do not care if the developer has accumulated a large bulk of the coins cheaply now it is almost dead. This incentive is human nature and they need incentive..
All devs here are in the great position of god like powers with powers to rise of crush a project due to what they do or do not produce.
silvermetal and thule - I ask again. What are your special motivations to be anti quark more than any other project that can have these identical criticisms levelled at them but in a far more serious and flagrant manner?
How do you both know so much about quark? are you old foundation members turned anti quark or what is this about?
It seems you ask a lot of questions of me and my motives and i told you here in plain open way although you 2 refuse to tell me your history with quark and how you know so much about the personal aspects of DI especially. Also what makes you believe i mean what evidence you have that DI has returned here? He must be kept away now he had his chance to be good with quark and he displayed he went totally anti quark so he should be prevented from more destructive influence.
Are you implying people have other intentions to see projects to become successful that they do NOT own? let's be serious. Show me some people who are fighting for projects here to succeed that do not hold those tokens.
He is implying there are people who want to get investors into that coin knowing that its basicly worthless with this hughe amounts of coins.You wrote 1-2 million coins are nothing big if you compare it to other communities.However this coin has nearly no investors.A current 2.000.000 dumb and the coin is gone again.
I'm an old core member who tried last time already to protect people from the pump and dump today its similar.
You claim you have no issue a celebirty advertising a coin.You know in the real word both would be sitting in prision for that.
Quark is advertised as a decentrelaised currency.
How can it be decentralised when its being hold by few people ?These few people are the new centralisation and how can it be called a currency when used by just a few people holding it in their wallets.
And yes the 1-2 million wallets are from major wallets.We did in the past a blockchain read and cleary saw that these coins haven't been bought but splitted from bigger accounts.
You said Max didnt anything for the last 3 years.You know Max didnt mostly anything for more than 5 years.The small updates he provided 3 years ago was nothing.
Each and everytime you need to wait for any shit months to change.
Even now you can see no communication from Max.
No update no nothing not even a single reply between his and kolins relationship.
Okay so at least I know you are an old quark core member. Perhaps silver is the same. I am always interested to hear the opposite side of any story even should it be different to what I feel at the time. I like to explore and see if i must change my view.
Well to me in my opinion this is where me and you differ in opinions.
1. I feel anyone at all could have mined it or bought it cheap for months. This is more than you can say for many coins here for sure.
2. You feel these 1-2 million wallets are not bought after/during the rise but are split from larger wallets before the rise. I say though that if anyone could mine or buy fairly against anyone else that does not matter if people mined a lot or bought a lot it was equal chance for anyone. Also i would need to see a full block explorer analysis to even know when and how people got these coins. But like i said it is irrelevant to me because if the initial distribution leaves it open for anyone to mine and get a lot of quark or any one can buy a lot of quark for months. After that there is just market forces.
3. You feel max did no development on quark after release. I feel the same as you...he only did essential upgrades. Bad idea for a coin that was so famous at the time and had a large community.
4. You feel max goes around making lots of coins - I say okay that is his mistake not choosing one coin and sticking with it and making it a big success. Hopefully he can see that now since the other projects you mentioned dont seem very successful either.
5. You feel it is corrupt to get a celebrity or famous person to use their position to advertise or advise people it is a good opportunity. I don't feel it is corrupt if people know those people are endorsing it because they are getting paid. Look at all the coins advertising this famous company is interested, this bank is interested. Roger ver saying buy this and that. This point is not a big issue for me personally. For you it is. But they all do it so you have to fight on a level field.
6. You think it is corrupt to try and entice people to invest in a coin with no development and perhaps will just be pretend development so they can pump and dump again. I say that is correct. Wait until you see development happening. I myself am accumulating more because I am speculating that they will complete a new road map and upgrade quark. If i lose more money this is my problem. If you take larger risks you make larger returns. Those who need to be careful more with their BTC should await proven results from the team.
7. You say DI is bad. I agree although once i thought he was good. I thought he believed in quark and wanted it to succeed and be a long term successful project. I called him many times a scammer near the end and we had a few issues.
8. Let's say for example the worst case - max has accumulated 20M quark. He and the new team develop quark and introduce a funding mechanism, decentralised governance and all the other tech that is being discussed. Then dumps then 20m and quark goes back to 100 sats from 30k or greater. We will still have the new tech and the funding system and we can bring on a new development team. He got paid for coding us our new tech. That is the worst that can happen. Hopefully that will not be the case and we can turn qrk into a long term project. Never sell in a flash dump unless there is no choice.
9. You will never control the power developers have on here so as long as they produce what they promise that is the most you can hope for in any project. I think all of them gradually cash out when they see the time is right. So many projects are dev less altogether right now. I don't think it is healthy to rely on one developer hence why we need a funding mechanism and voting mechanism to bring on a larger development team.
I think there will be room for 1000's of crypto currencies as it becomes more mainstream and instead of decentralisation i think having distributed many crypto currencies will spread the load best and keep crypto stronger.
I am actually more of a coin collector and I have no issue admitting my trading has lost me the opportunity to be a millionaire over and over and over again. I does not matter. I have all that I need and I find the entire thing very interesting. I am probably still of course far more wealthy that I could ever dreamed of due to crypto but I never even calculate how much fiat it is worth. I just like collecting and collecting more and more of it.
If you were a core member and put a lot of work and effort into quark and were fucked over by the intentional actions of others that were meant to be on your side then I agree you should be pissed off I would also be. However a lot of qrk holder bought fair or mined fair and there is no reason for them to have to let quark die because of the actions of a few before hand. Even the people bill brought in they are just investors looking for returns I dont say they are scammers. Most of those holding quark now for years are certainly not insiders else they would have tried to dump out at or near the top or even 15k 10k. They would not be holding now unless they are purely insane. The only people mainly holding now from years back are those that believed quark would be something long term.
Sure caution people to not invest before results are shown but to try and destroy an effort to bring quark back is actually not the right way to go about it. Sure if you don't like max's actions and you think he colluded with DI to destroy qrk then that is something pretty bad to consider. I am hoping MAX is going to realise jumping from project to project will never build something large and useful and that focusing on one project and growing a community and funding and bringing on more developers is the key to success and recognition in this arena.
The only part about max in your view that makes no sense to me is this...
1. if he somehow mined a lot himself ( he certainly didnt get more than stephen) then why he NEVER tried to use his dev powers to pump it? no road map no comment on the thread at all, no replies to questions. Just launched and made it look dead.
2. If DI mined a lot of coins or bought a lot....and says hey MAX i got a ton of quark let's pump and dump it. Why did max still never even show up and still make the coin look dead. I mean why would DI need MAX cos he got bill and why share your coins with MAX?
3. My opinion of max is that he did not mine much and was not even interested in qrk only as a hobby. Perhaps he is just short term point of view and create a lot of small projects and take some small rewards from each. This is a stupid plan. One big project like quark can make magnitudes more returns for constant hard work and good leadership.
So in conclusion i agree DI is bad or rather just wanted to extract value from qrk then kill it.
Max to me is short term POV and needs to focus on one project and be more of a leader rather than hide away and saying nothing or doing little either. That needs to change but I can not call him a scammer for this without 100% knowing how much qrk he had and when it was dumped. His actions to me logically say he didnt get much. That and stephen lamb taking a HUGE amount of all the coins and even a tiny miner like me being able to mine 1 million. I know so quite large miners i notice were there as from other launches too.
Why not rejoin the core and become positive and also you can keep a close eye on the progress and give us all a fair appraisal of it. If you see no development and it is all just talk and pump then you can inform everyone of this.
I would like coinmama and quarkfx to come back too. Let's get rid of the scammers out of this project and bring back the good people.
I take offense of people calling me a scammer and shill for DI. I mined my coins fairly and I will not suffer being called a scammer when I know 100% i mined my 1 million coins with no unfair disadvantage over anyone else.
I have a similar issue with beecoin. This was THE FAIREST pow launch out of over 100 I was on. I mean every fair launch aspect was fulfilled. Announced ahead of time, rar wallets with passwords so slow downloaders had same chance. Super fast diff so nobody could instamine much. That project has been the total train wreck due to a developer soopy actually taking 3BN beecoins and dumping them for 288LTC then immediately leaving with the funds to build NAV coin.
This is not even up for discussion or doubt there is 100% proof this took place. I am about to tackle this person head on because his actions are willful destruction of that coin and community even after the donations and funding raised by other community members.
You can see this on many projects. The community allowed him 1 billion for continued support of the project and he take 3BN and dumps it all crushing the market and then vanishes to work on NAV
If he had mined it himself there is nothing i guess anyone could say about it since it is up to him what he does then if he mined it or bought it fairly on the marketplace....but he just took it by force from the community funds.
This is the evidence you need to really pull the scam card on someone.
Now of course beecoin is not qrk and to many it is best it is dead. Also a huge amount of my beecoins were stolen by allcoin exchange and my ltc them too i am now about to start a scam campaign on too.
I do not suffer scammers. Even scammers that have no scammed me. Getgemz, and lots of scam campaigns i have launched on people. If i thought for a moment max had scammed me there would have been a scam thread on it. For sure he disappointed me with his abandonment but I can not logically see how he can have scammed me and other quark holders. I am still hoping he will redeem himself and qrk. If he does not then we will need a new dev team here.