Should Europe repay Africa for Slavery

[anushkasachith888]

Have you guys watched ''12 years as a slave''- movie? It is very pathetic to see how slaves were treated by White people, Color of skin makes the discrimination , how cruel world this was ?

Do you believe that Hollywood depicts the truth? For heaven's sake, if you want to learn what happened in the past, then read some history books. Watching Hollywood movies is not a good way to improve your historical knowledge. Yes... the slaves were treated very badly back then in the US. But in other countries, they were treated even worse.

Yeah yeah I know. I have read enough. Mainly Imperialist westerners responsible for that black era against the humanity. I just highlighted that hollywood movie as  many people watch hollywood movies and it shows us the cruelty of slavery

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[david_019]

If possible yes. They ruin the lives of African people living with peace and then here they came with greedy motives. So I think as an act of repentance and peace offering.

[salamyman]

it's all in the past.

[BADecker]

Have you guys watched ''12 years as a slave''- movie? It is very pathetic to see how slaves were treated by White people, Color of skin makes the discrimination , how cruel world this was ?

Do you believe that Hollywood depicts the truth? For heaven's sake, if you want to learn what happened in the past, then read some history books. Watching Hollywood movies is not a good way to improve your historical knowledge. Yes... the slaves were treated very badly back then in the US. But in other countries, they were treated even worse.

Everyone is a slave of the devil. Everyone except those who have been released from his power by becoming Christians.

[anushkasachith888]

Have you guys watched ''12 years as a slave''- movie? It is very pathetic to see how slaves were treated by White people, Color of skin makes the discrimination , how cruel world this was ?

Do you believe that Hollywood depicts the truth? For heaven's sake, if you want to learn what happened in the past, then read some history books. Watching Hollywood movies is not a good way to improve your historical knowledge. Yes... the slaves were treated very badly back then in the US. But in other countries, they were treated even worse.

Everyone is a slave of the devil. Everyone except those who have been released from his power by becoming Christians.

Everyone is a slave who doesn't have the financial freedom even today. Slavery still exits in different way, different manner. so get the financial freedom. Otherwise you will be a slave for someone until you work under him/her.

[Fortify]

It seems like a pointless conversation to have. From what I can see, very few countries in Africa have their shit together enough that it would be helpful. Any reparations would likely be stolen by a few corrupt officials or squandered on worthless projects. How far back in history do you go in this hypothetical scenario?

Should Mongolia repay for the pillaging of Arab countries by Genghis Khan? Should the Italians pay reparations for Roman plundering of Europe? Should Turkey pay for the Ottoman invasion of Greece? It is a stupid discussion to have, why should current generations pay for mistakes made hundreds of years ago?

[glgeux]

Do you honestly believe that European countries should pay reparations to African countries for the sins of Slavery ?

I think this is something that has to be done but is not gonna happen ever.

[Sithara007]

It seems like a pointless conversation to have. From what I can see, very few countries in Africa have their shit together enough that it would be helpful. Any reparations would likely be stolen by a few corrupt officials or squandered on worthless projects. How far back in history do you go in this hypothetical scenario?

Should Mongolia repay for the pillaging of Arab countries by Genghis Khan? Should the Italians pay reparations for Roman plundering of Europe? Should Turkey pay for the Ottoman invasion of Greece? It is a stupid discussion to have, why should current generations pay for mistakes made hundreds of years ago?

Couldn't put in any better. What happened in the past must be forgiven. An individual should not be punished for the actions of his great-forefathers. Repatriations can only be extracted from individuals who are directly responsible for a crime. For example, after the WW2, the axis powers such as Japan and Germany paid repatriations to the allies.

[MeSoCorny]

Have you guys watched ''12 years as a slave''- movie? It is very pathetic to see how slaves were treated by White people, Color of skin makes the discrimination , how cruel world this was ?

You do realize that black people owned slaves during the time of slavery as well correct? In fact, the first person to own a slave in the new colonies before America was created was a black man. In Africa the warring tribes used to actually cannabalize the prisoners, as well as sell them as slaves. You do realize that white people are the reason that there is no longer any slavery in both Europe and America correct? Less than 1% of Americans owned any slaves during the time of slavery. Have you seen how muslims treat slaves in the Middle East still to this day? How about their treatment of women? I don't see you pointing your finger at muslims. This is perhaps one of the dumbest comments I've seen on this site yet.

[anushkasachith888]

Have you guys watched ''12 years as a slave''- movie? It is very pathetic to see how slaves were treated by White people, Color of skin makes the discrimination , how cruel world this was ?

You do realize that black people owned slaves during the time of slavery as well correct? In fact, the first person to own a slave in the new colonies before America was created was a black man. In Africa the warring tribes used to actually cannabalize the prisoners, as well as sell them as slaves. You do realize that white people are the reason that there is no longer any slavery in both Europe and America correct? Less than 1% of Americans owned any slaves during the time of slavery. Have you seen how muslims treat slaves in the Middle East still to this day? How about their treatment of women? I don't see you pointing your finger at muslims. This is perhaps one of the dumbest comments I've seen on this site yet.

Slavery still exists in many ways even today. even a man who is working in big company wearing proper clothes in AC rooms but still a slave of some one or some group which means he/she has to work for them,  make profit for them. So current social structure ( Capitalism ) too should change oneday. It won't change itself I think , people have to change. If i come back to your comment,  even Behind Muslim terrorism Western imperialist are there. who created ISIS ? now everyone knows the truth, may be you don't. just google..

I was talking to the common mainly accepted slavery. the slavery era. Otherwise we can talk about this topic for days.

[MeSoCorny]

Slavery still exists in many ways even today. even a man who is working in big company wearing proper clothes in AC rooms but still a slave of some one or some group which means he/she has to work for them,  make profit for them. So current social structure ( Capitalism ) too should change oneday. It won't change itself I think , people have to change. If i come back to your comment,  even Behind Muslim terrorism Western imperialist are there. who created ISIS ? now everyone knows the truth, may be you don't. just google..

I was talking to the common mainly accepted slavery. the slavery era. Otherwise we can talk about this topic for days.

Uhhh no. That's called having a job and being an adult. Only lazy people think of that as a form of slavery. Is anyone forcing them to go work there? Nope. They can go live under a bridge if they'd like to. As to the 2nd part of your statement on ISIS. Sure, Hillary and Obama created ISIS by arming the rebels and deposing of Gaddafi which created a power vacuum in the area. But nobody makes any of them go and blow up men, women, and children except their barbaric culture and ideology. Running around with suicide vest killing groups of innocent people is a choice they make on their own to carry out. Most civilized cultures find more amenable solutions. When 20% of your entire culture (or 350 MILLION people) thinks Sharia law and sympathy for jihadists is okay then that is a problem with the people, and they certainly have no business being blended in with Western culture because their cultures clearly do not mix. That's called being a realist. This is why Donald Trump's extreme vetting is a sensible solution and the mass migration of refugees into countries like Sweden and Germany are laughably unrealistic. It's also why they have the matching numbers of murders, assaults, rapes, and pedophilia to accompany those numbers.

[anushkasachith888]

Slavery still exists in many ways even today. even a man who is working in big company wearing proper clothes in AC rooms but still a slave of some one or some group which means he/she has to work for them,  make profit for them. So current social structure ( Capitalism ) too should change oneday. It won't change itself I think , people have to change. If i come back to your comment,  even Behind Muslim terrorism Western imperialist are there. who created ISIS ? now everyone knows the truth, may be you don't. just google..

I was talking to the common mainly accepted slavery. the slavery era. Otherwise we can talk about this topic for days.

Uhhh no. That's called having a job and being an adult. Only lazy people think of that as a form of slavery. Is anyone forcing them to go work there? Nope. They can go live under a bridge if they'd like to. As to the 2nd part of your statement on ISIS. Sure, Hillary and Obama created ISIS by arming the rebels and deposing of Gaddafi which created a power vacuum in the area. But nobody makes any of them go and blow up men, women, and children except their barbaric culture and ideology. Running around with suicide vest killing groups of innocent people is a choice they make on their own to carry out. Most civilized cultures find more amenable solutions. When 20% of your entire culture (or 350 MILLION people) thinks Sharia law and sympathy for jihadists is okay then that is a problem with the people, and they certainly have no business being blended in with Western culture because their cultures clearly do not mix. That's called being a realist. This is why Donald Trump's extreme vetting is a sensible solution and the mass migration of refugees into countries like Sweden and Germany are laughably unrealistic. It's also why they have the matching numbers of murders, assaults, rapes, and pedophilia to accompany those numbers.

Islamic teaching is barbaric. so the Christian in the past. But with the time They removed that barbaric teachings from Christinism according to the modern world. but Islamic people didn't , thats the difference. Otherwise both belongs to Ibrahim religions. Basic religious concept the same. If you go back to 70s,80s, Muslims were not this much aggressive or violent. some people used their religious fundamental to turn them barbarian to activate their hidden agenda. Now Muslims are nuisance for the  rest of world. whether you are not a part of hidden agendas, you can be a victim of them.

[AlexandrInt]

Do you honestly believe that European countries should pay reparations to African countries for the sins of Slavery ?

I'll tell you more, European countries will take even more from African countries, and not return for slavery. Although there is nothing to take from some countries. As far as I know, only a few countries can boast of their wealth and developed economy, but they know the value of this result.

[MeSoCorny]

Islamic teaching is barbaric. so the Christian in the past. But with the time They removed that barbaric teachings from Christinism according to the modern world. but Islamic people didn't , thats the difference. Otherwise both belongs to Ibrahim religions. Basic religious concept the same. If you go back to 70s,80s, Muslims were not this much aggressive or violent. some people used their religious fundamental to turn them barbarian to activate their hidden agenda. Now Muslims are nuisance for the  rest of world. whether you are not a part of hidden agendas, you can be a victim of them.

You're leaving out one crucial element to that which completely negates your entire argument. Christian scripture was completely opposed to what actual "christians" did. The scripture told them to do the exact opposite of what they did. It actually taught to love and forgive. Be kind to your enemies. If someone strikes you turn the other cheek. If people do not accept your teachings then turn around and leave them.

This is completely contrary to the teachings of Islam that actually tell muslims to kill the infidel, force their beliefs on others, kill those who turn from the teachings, allow them to use deception and even lie about their religion in countries that may be hostile to Islam etc.

So Christians in western societies imposed religion in their human judgement in order to impose "a civilized way of life" (which they learned eventually to be counter to it), not because scripture told them, and ended the subjagation a thousand years ago. Islam on the other hand actually tells muslims to commit these atrocities in the name of Allah. A thousand years later they are still stuck in mideival times.

THAT, is where your argument falls flat sir.

[anushkasachith888]

Islamic teaching is barbaric. so the Christian in the past. But with the time They removed that barbaric teachings from Christinism according to the modern world. but Islamic people didn't , thats the difference. Otherwise both belongs to Ibrahim religions. Basic religious concept the same. If you go back to 70s,80s, Muslims were not this much aggressive or violent. some people used their religious fundamental to turn them barbarian to activate their hidden agenda. Now Muslims are nuisance for the  rest of world. whether you are not a part of hidden agendas, you can be a victim of them.

You're leaving out one crucial element to that which completely negates your entire argument. Christian scripture was completely opposed to what actual "christians" did. The scripture told them to do the exact opposite of what they did. It actually taught to love and forgive. Be kind to your enemies. If someone strikes you turn the other cheek. If people do not accept your teachings then turn around and leave them.

This is completely contrary to the teachings of Islam that actually tell muslims to kill the infidel, force their beliefs on others, kill those who turn from the teachings, allow them to use deception and even lie about their religion in countries that may be hostile to Islam etc.

So Christians in western societies imposed religion in their human judgement in order to impose "a civilized way of life" (which they learned eventually to be counter to it), not because scripture told them, and ended the subjagation a thousand years ago. Islam on the other hand actually tells muslims to commit these atrocities in the name of Allah. A thousand years later they are still stuck in mideival times.

THAT, is where your argument falls flat sir.

Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists     Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.

[automail]

Do you honestly believe that European countries should pay reparations to African countries for the sins of Slavery ?

I dont think so. Why do they have to pay for something that their ancestor have done? It is not fair for them to pay for something that happen before they were even born. I think we should just learn from the past and make sure that the bad thongs won't happen. The era before us was different and lets just keep it as it is.Continue to move forward anf live our life to the fullest. Worrying about this thing will just lead to cinflict.

[MeSoCorny]

Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists    Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.

I like how you seem to think if you pull a random number out of your butt it will just somehow sail through. The crusades over a thousand years ago resulted in roughly 200,000 deaths. Nice try spouting millions. The global population itself was only around 400 million people. Muslims have committed over 140,000 terrorist attacks just since 1970 across the globe, and that's not even counting stonings and just outright murder. Even if each only took 2 lives you've already surpassed 200,000. But we know they have taken dozens to thousands in scored of those attacks. This isn't even taking into account their crusade across the middle east under Mohammed.

Please just give up. You're making yourself look like a fool trying to make this laughable argument that christianity has somehow outpaced the destructive 'Religion of Peace' (<<<<<LMAO, that is used as a joke now in the media when referring to the weekly terrorist attacks by muslims) that kills people around the world on almost a daily basis. There's not one person that you could ever honestly convince of this. The totals aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to Islam. Just give up dude, because I'l take you to school on your laughable attempt to even try.

[salamyman]

if europe should pay africa, how about germany paying the whole europe for all the tens of millions of people killed? seems only fair.

[BitcoinNational]

I don't see the point to pay reparations for things that happened 2 centuries ago However, what I regret is that we don't (or barely not) speak about slavery in the history book, like it didn't happen.

Also, there are still slaves now in the world , we recently see it in Libia. So we should do something for that. But it's like no one cares , and we already stop speaking about it. Sad world

[anushkasachith888]

Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists    Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.

I like how you seem to think if you pull a random number out of your butt it will just somehow sail through. The crusades over a thousand years ago resulted in roughly 200,000 deaths. Nice try spouting millions. The global population itself was only around 400 million people. Muslims have committed over 140,000 terrorist attacks just since 1970 across the globe, and that's not even counting stonings and just outright murder. Even if each only took 2 lives you've already surpassed 200,000. But we know they have taken dozens to thousands in scored of those attacks. This isn't even taking into account their crusade across the middle east under Mohammed.

Please just give up. You're making yourself look like a fool trying to make this laughable argument that christianity has somehow outpaced the destructive 'Religion of Peace' (<<<<<LMAO, that is used as a joke now in the media when referring to the weekly terrorist attacks by muslims) that kills people around the world on almost a daily basis. There's not one person that you could ever honestly convince of this. The totals aren't even in the same ballpark when it comes to Islam. Just give up dude, because I'l take you to school on your laughable attempt to even try.

I think you have misread my statement. I am not backing Islam terrorism. . there is no good terrorism or bad terrorism in the world. It is bad. It mist be wiped out. so is extremism. They all against the humanity. I mean Westerns and some powerful organization behind modern Islam terrorism. and in the past Christians also killed so many people. and they still kill. US and UK killed so many iraqi people. it is 4% of their country population. it is big , isn't it? They said Sadam got nuclear weopans. but they found nothing in the end. These are conspiracies, Even Americans questioning their leaders now.