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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 864804 times)
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November 23, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
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So it's just a small PCB then huh?

What's the great difficulty in making them then that's taking so long, ostensibly?

And why are they even necessary?  BFL's FCBGA chips and Avalon's QFNs get soldered right onto the mainboard.  Why do they need another PCB?
BFL's chips do have a substrate.

The QFN package is a little different, the die sits on a metal pad and has little wires that go from the die to the pins at the edge of the QFN. In both cases though, the die doesn't get soldered right to the board and has to go through some kind of interface. Very few ICs are sold are bare dies.
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November 23, 2013, 07:30:25 PM
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It seems to me that someone wants to snach BFL's title of skill in conning their customers. First we had box of fans, now we have box of fans+mock pcb. Wtf is going on? If this is the case now i'm anxious to see what the next con will invent!

I'm mildly more optimistic now and hope Hashfast keeps posting updates.  Regularly.  On-topic.   Maybe since they apparently tested the BJ with two chips, that means they'll ship with two chips.  Tongue

But to answer your question, RoadStress, if it's really all bullshit, I've done a mockup of Hashfast's next image update:

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November 23, 2013, 07:34:23 PM
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It seems to me that someone wants to snach BFL's title of skill in conning their customers. First we had box of fans, now we have box of fans+mock pcb. Wtf is going on? If this is the case now i'm anxious to see what the next con will invent!

I'm mildly more optimistic now and hope Hashfast keeps posting updates.  Regularly.  On-topic.   Maybe since they apparently tested the BJ with two chips, that means they'll ship with two chips.  Tongue

But to answer your question, RoadStress, if it's really all bullshit, I've done a mockup of Hashfast's next image update:
Wow, that thing looks like it barely has any nm's. How many jiggahashes does is hold?
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November 23, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
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Maybe since they apparently tested the BJ with two chips, that means they'll ship with two chips.  Tongue

They haven't tested chips. They said themselves they don't get substrate till Monday. My guess is PCB are finalized/ordered after they get substrates. Chip testing probably a week out (2+ more likely). Delivery to the first customer in Jan is my guess. Dec delivery looks kind of unlikely given we have 2 holidays upcoming.

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November 23, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
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I haven't followed the whole discussion...maybe someone can clue me in: Just what is "substrate" in this context, and what purpose does it serve?

It's the green part of the pic below, the pc board on which the actual silicon is mounted.

HA Ha ha ! Wink Grin
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November 23, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
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I haven't followed the whole discussion...maybe someone can clue me in: Just what is "substrate" in this context, and what purpose does it serve?

Comprehensive information on substrates, from Rev. Jim White:

http://www.amazon.com/Drill-Hole-That-Substrate-Tell/dp/B00026WT6A

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November 24, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
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How long is it going to take to test batch1 bj's?  Oh ok maybe they just going to put it together and sent me them out.
What a joke of a compan.  Eduardo,  once I get my bj I'll come down and stick it up  Shocked sideways

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November 24, 2013, 12:43:17 AM
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How long is it going to take to test batch1 bj's?  Oh ok maybe they just going to put it together and sent me them out.
What a joke of a compan.  Eduardo,  once I get my bj I'll come down and stick it up  Shocked sideways

knc tested 1-2 days. there were of course issues but thats how asic business works. if you cant take you shouldnt invest in this business.
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November 24, 2013, 12:48:22 AM
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How long is it going to take to test batch1 bj's?  Oh ok maybe they just going to put it together and sent me them out.
What a joke of a compan.  Eduardo,  once I get my bj I'll come down and stick it up  Shocked sideways

knc tested 1-2 days. there were of course issues but thats how asic business works. if you cant take you shouldnt invest in this business.
Have you orders one?

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November 24, 2013, 12:53:45 AM
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How long is it going to take to test batch1 bj's?  Oh ok maybe they just going to put it together and sent me them out.
What a joke of a compan.  Eduardo,  once I get my bj I'll come down and stick it up  Shocked sideways

knc tested 1-2 days. there were of course issues but thats how asic business works. if you cant take you shouldnt invest in this business.
Have you orders one?

ordered from knc

and

ordered from hashfast
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November 24, 2013, 12:59:54 AM
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How long is it going to take to test batch1 bj's?  Oh ok maybe they just going to put it together and sent me them out.
What a joke of a compan.  Eduardo,  once I get my bj I'll come down and stick it up  Shocked sideways

knc tested 1-2 days. there were of course issues but thats how asic business works. if you cant take you shouldnt invest in this business.
Have you orders one?

ordered from knc

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ordered from hashfast
ok maybe I shouldn't  be complaining then. Lol
You might be right. They knew what was going on,  and they just needed suckers like me and you to sacrifice to get a company in the race.
Why didn't I get into start up business Roll Eyes

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November 24, 2013, 01:06:58 AM
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The only thing I learnt from the mining world is, make the right contacts, get lawyers to write a tos and then use some icing sugar (MPP) WALAH. I'm not complain I just got great business advice  Cheesy

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November 24, 2013, 02:24:58 AM
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Stop the bitching  Grin
They will deliver, maybe not on time but they will deliver...
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November 24, 2013, 02:27:26 AM
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Stop the bitching  Grin
They will deliver, maybe not on time but they will deliver...

these asic-hardware threads are the worst i have ever seen in a forum.
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November 24, 2013, 02:30:10 AM
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Stop the bitching  Grin
They will deliver, maybe not on time but they will deliver...

You are the perfect customer.

Meanwhile i notice batch 4 Babyjets show 400w now. Hmmm...

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November 24, 2013, 02:48:51 AM
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400W? Where? I can't see it.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 24, 2013, 02:57:45 AM
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400W? Where? I can't see it.

hashfast.com



Lol i highlighted the wrong thing and too lazy to fix.

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November 24, 2013, 03:01:26 AM
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Remember people, HashFast doesn't like to use the term remake.

They prefer to think of this as a reboot of the BFL franchise.
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November 24, 2013, 03:07:45 AM
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Stop the bitching  Grin
They will deliver, maybe not on time but they will deliver...
Lol ok Roll Eyes thanks bob

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November 24, 2013, 06:05:51 AM
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HashFast is back in touch with me, I've asked them to get me results about the chip testing back to me ASAP.  As suspected, everyone there has been scrambling to get stuff together for their product launch.

I hope we'll know how these perform soon!

PCB assembly shouldn't be that time consuming, so as soon as we have tested functional chips I'm hopeful that HashFast will go into production.

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