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December 31, 2013, 08:11:53 PM
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https://twitter.com/HashFast/status/418107074979971072

A big thank you to Amy for camping out in Montreal for the last week!

We did it!! Shipped the first Baby Jets and Sierras today.

How appropriate to advertise shipping sierras in an ultimate fuck you to people who ordered first. Happy new years to you(not really).

the sierras contain the same modules as the baby jets... just 3 in there instead of 1 (or two if its been upgraded)

don't assume sierras have to be delivered after baby jets...  do u think icedrill's systems will be baby jets?

the baby jets are for home use and the sierras for data centre use.  any big customer planning to put them in a data centre would've ordered sierras and not baby jets.

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December 31, 2013, 08:20:27 PM
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I think his issue is that seirra's weren't available for several weeks (a month?) after the Baby Jet... so the implication would be that it should be first come/first served.

If they are shipping sierra's then they are jumping the queue of BJB1 rather than SRB2.

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December 31, 2013, 08:22:07 PM
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the baby jets are for home use and the sierras for data centre use.  any big customer planning to put them in a data centre would've ordered sierras and not baby jets.



Wrong . to quote simon:

"Unfortunately we can't offer any models for home use during initial sales. The reason is FCC certification. To sell a product for home use we need FCC class B certification, and this takes 1 or 2 months, after our chips become available. As a result we cannot endorse or sell any of our early products for home use. We may offer a product certified for home use later on, but our early products are sold for use in commercial environments.

The Baby Jet will come with the fully sealed, maintenance free liquid cooling system.
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There should be no differentiation between the 2 other than the case  since they themselves say both are for commercial use. I'm pretty sure i ordered before icedrill since they didn't even ipo when i ordered. Same as public sierra orders. So hence we are being fucked.

Edit - if they are shipping sierra to fullfill BJ orders that is fine.

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December 31, 2013, 08:22:36 PM
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I think his issue is that seirra's weren't available for several weeks (a month?) after the Baby Jet... so the implication would be that it should be first come/first served.

If they are shipping sierra's then they are jumping the queue of BJB1 rather than SRB2.
I initially ordered several BJ. I later had the case changed to a Sierra. They are shipping batch 1. Shipping, not delivering. Good bless this detail.

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December 31, 2013, 08:23:09 PM
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I think his issue is that seirra's weren't available for several weeks (a month?) after the Baby Jet... so the implication would be that it should be first come/first served.


i understand his assumption but its not correct..

1.  sierras may not have been on the web shop but were available to buy the same time as baby jets.  the professional customers would've ordered the sierras and not the baby jets.

2.  people who ordered multiple baby jets were (i believe) in some cases allowed to switch their orders into sierras... and retain their place in the line.

bear in mind.. sierras are just a denser form of baby jet.  containing the same identical hardware, just packaged differently.  actually, containing less hardware as sierras do not contain a controller and require use of an external pc controller.

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December 31, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
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Let me guess aerobatic, you ordered sierra right?

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December 31, 2013, 08:28:09 PM
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bear in mind.. sierras are just a denser form of baby jet.  containing the same identical hardware, just packaged differently.  actually, containing less hardware as sierras do not contain a controller and require use of an external pc controller.

Speaking of controllers... I don't see any raspberry Pi's in the posted pictures.  Can anyone see the cgminer controller?

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December 31, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
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bear in mind.. sierras are just a denser form of baby jet.  containing the same identical hardware, just packaged differently.  actually, containing less hardware as sierras do not contain a controller and require use of an external pc controller.

Speaking of controllers... I don't see any raspberry Pi's in the posted pictures.  Can anyone see the cgminer controller?

Nope.. been asking about those for months.

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December 31, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
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Let me guess aerobatic, you ordered sierra right?

one baby jet (order 524)  and some sierras.

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December 31, 2013, 08:33:34 PM
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question of the day for me, should I post some more HF images I just got? I hate to be in the middle of everything, but I do think people want to see what they are up to from a hardware stand point.. ?
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December 31, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
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Sure gateway, post your images. You got my nullaosta.

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December 31, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
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Go for it.

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December 31, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
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question of the day for me, should I post some more HF images I just got? I hate to be in the middle of everything, but I do think people want to see what they are up to from a hardware stand point.. ?

Gateway... I am pretty sure everyone understands that you are an innocent bystandier in the fubar that has been Hashfast Batch1.  To be honest, I am sure the hardware is going to be great... it is just that the delivery date and pricing were not balanced.  At this point... BTC purchasers will be lucky to get back 25% of their invested bitcoins, and Hashfast doesn't seem the least bit contrite about it.  All we have gotten from them is what appears to be lies up to the initial shipping date and then a defensive crouch, with no offers in any way of addressing the situation.

If you have additional information and insight that you can share... please do.

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December 31, 2013, 08:51:57 PM
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Hashfast what is going on?

1. You show us on  Dec 8th you were assembling boards.
2. You show us that you are mining on the live network around  Dec 20th.

We are now to assume that you are hashing with our equipment.  
Unfortunately your extremely poor communication skills and performance so far will leave us to assume the worst.

We have internal test systems.  A few of them, like the Baby Jet in our office that is part of the Eligius mining pool, are doing actual mining.  This is to do a full, end to end, system test.  None of these test systems will be shipped to our customers.  We will not use customer systems for our own purposes, especially mining.

Best,

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December 31, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
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Was that answer authorised by your lawyer?

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December 31, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
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Hashfast what is going on?

1. You show us on  Dec 8th you were assembling boards.
2. You show us that you are mining on the live network around  Dec 20th.

We are now to assume that you are hashing with our equipment.  
Unfortunately your extremely poor communication skills and performance so far will leave us to assume the worst.

We have internal test systems.  A few of them, like the Baby Jet in our office that is part of the Eligius mining pool, are doing actual mining.  This is to do a full, end to end, system test.  None of these test systems will be shipped to our customers.  We will not use customer systems for our own purposes, especially mining.

Best,

-HashFast Community Liaison

That's great but it took the owner of eligius to let us know. You are a day late and we are dollar(s) short. Next time don't tell us you are going to ship on the (21st) then go completely silent. Thousands of dollars might not be a lot to you but it is to me, and i will find out where my money and equipment is.

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December 31, 2013, 08:55:03 PM
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Here are some photos that I have, this it as Ciara....

Baby Jet Front..


Baby Jet Close up



Baby Jet Side...



EDIT: some more at HF Twitter account https://twitter.com/hashfast
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December 31, 2013, 08:56:33 PM
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How come you were there gateway?

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December 31, 2013, 08:58:44 PM
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How come you were there gateway?

I'm not, im sitting in my office working on video game... these are NOT my pictures fyi, I was given the OK to post some!
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December 31, 2013, 08:59:29 PM
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Hashfast_CL -

It looks like the "test" systems are short of the "400 Gigahash/s at nominal clock" speed advertised by HF (assuming we are looking at a 2-module system).  Is there any plan to supplement the hashrate on these initial machines to get up to the advertised 400GH?


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