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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 864801 times)
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January 07, 2014, 07:16:31 AM
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Noticed that none of the concerns over at HashFast have even tried to defend all that's been stated in the past few days on this thread? Hell, nary a one has been by to tell Maxwell how to do his job via quoting the BT Canon.

Well, at least I may have some good news to report. Perhaps all the BTC collected is in the AmerGold Brianiac Trust: https://plus.google.com/photos/+JeromeFried/albums/5868476178160951825?banner=pwa

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You couldn't have a better team of experts purveying your precious metals.

On a lighter note, how many HashFast concerns can fit in a Prius? All of them, provided they all enter from the rear.

Looks like all four members of the MGT Brainiac Trust are bitcoiners: Dominic McCarty; John Skrodenis; Matthew Cooper (registered americanmadegold.com and .org); Jerome A. Fried. As you'll see, this all took place back in April, 2013.
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January 07, 2014, 07:27:27 AM
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As you'll see, this all took place back in April, 2013.
Then they found something better.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 07, 2014, 07:39:15 AM
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Just out of curiosity, I went back to check the original price and date of these things.  They started taking pre-orders in August, and with shipping they were about $6k with shipping, or $5.75k to the US.

Delivery to UK. Really???



Lousy exchange rate. Definitely not Fort Gox. 60.8665btc=$5,764

That means people paid about 60 btc to buy these things.  Almost $55k in today's bitstamp prices. At 600Gh/s that's $91/gh or BTC0.1/gh.

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January 07, 2014, 07:47:51 AM
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We should be able to stand right outside of the boot, with those tshirts... Should do it, can they stop you from going in loop?

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 07, 2014, 07:54:31 AM
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http://amergoldllc.com/

John Skrodenis seems to be missing here as one of the principles.
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January 07, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
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Another article, and reddit post
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/1ukggq/bitcoin_asic_manufacturer_hashfast_facing/
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January 07, 2014, 09:16:43 AM
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It's a copy of the first article - but it's always better than a copy of the coindesk article.

Btw - Head of Performance Marketing at CoinDesk Ltd - visiting my linkedin profile. At least they read that email.

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Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 07, 2014, 09:33:30 AM
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Just wanted to say great job (especially cedivad) on making headlines in your effort to prosecute Hashlast. An example needs to be set to protect the mining community. Keep up the fight. Where is the legal fund donation address?
If you want to "protect" the mining community stop buying preorders.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276844.0
That was in August.  Nothing has changed or will change.  A customer will never get a unit that will be worth substantially more then market price at the time of delivery so why keep giving these companies a free put option.
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January 07, 2014, 09:36:15 AM
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do we have any information updates from HF so far? thank you very much!
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January 07, 2014, 09:37:45 AM
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Yes, they are in complete ignore mode. Hopefully they will ignore the arbitration letters as well.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 07, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
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Does anyone has a copy of the headers of emails exchanged with @hashfast.com around the 15 of August?

I'm trying to verify whatever they were using Google Apps at the time or whatever else.

Thanks.

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January 07, 2014, 12:20:45 PM
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do we have any information updates from HF so far? thank you very much!

Someone suggested that they will be in silence mode until 15 January. Let's see what happens then!

I wonder if Luke can share with us his specs for the units and also power consumption.

iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
H/w Hosting Directory & Reputation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0
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January 07, 2014, 12:23:01 PM
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Why don't you start a collective fund so that this guy takes one person and works on the case to it's conclusion. If he succeeds then you can get cheaper lawyers to do the light work of referring to the first case as a precedent (assuming that even applied).

This would make it easier on the pocketbook of customers and leave the lawyer with a less than fat wallet.

Quoting from http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arbitration-basics-29947-2.html:

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The arbitration decision.
Arbitrators are free to base their decisions on their own ideas of what is fair and just. Unlike judges, they are not required to follow the law or the reasoning of earlier case decisions.

So basically, we will have to present the same facts again and again, to new arbitrators in each case, who will make individual decisions.
We might win 80% and loose 20% of the cases, even if we are totally right.

I don't think we can spare the later cases by referring to precedents.

That being said, if HF realizes that it keeps loosing all the cases, they might settle the later ones, to spare the (futile) legal costs.

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January 07, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
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Code:
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:39:06 -0400
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Please note my receiving email account is hosted on googleapps

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January 07, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
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MediaTemple? Fogcreek?  Smiley (i had already inserted Fogcreek in my list of possible enquires, but now i'm much more confident about it).

It's my lucky day. Thanks!

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January 07, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
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The problem with contingency is that it creates an incentive for the lawyer to optimize work/reward for himself and not for the client, which has also been documented with real estate agents. Thus the lawyer may have an incentive to "resolve" the case within the first month by accepting a 20% bitcoin refund as a deal and never having to do any work for it...

I have asked him about this, and here are the most important points of the answer:

 * The lawyer will not have the authority to accept any settlement the client does not want.
 * The contingent fee only attaches to profits over the current settlement offer. (So accepting the USD value would earn him NOTHING.)
 * For customers not wanting to go on a contingent base, we can also do this hourly, and maybe it will resolve quickly and easily. (But don't hold your breath.)

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As for me, I am fine with the basic terms offered. (I have not yet signed anything specific. It's gonna happen in the next 12 hours, I guess.)
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January 07, 2014, 04:00:56 PM
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Interestingly john removed "some" of his previous working experiences from his Linkedin profile. (there is now a 6 years hole).

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January 07, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
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https://twitter.com/deejne

https://twitter.com/playpeninc/status/17056058204

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You might know some of our Playpen.com staff @2amdrive @deejne @isokrankee @musemariah @jameskottmeier. #FF

8:00 PM - 25 Jun 10

From the dump: 27246,deejne,deejne@gmail.com,$1$xWs8cUli$Rtvg9jXERkEcZNu05YnBd/

http://juicy-ads.blogspot.com/2011_10_01_archive.html

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JuicyAds.com Is A Scam

JuicyAds.com is a SCAM !
How so ?
JuicyAds.com cheats Advertiser by not paying Publishers.

Basically, JuicyAds.com STEALS banner from publishers (by changing the Ad codes) so that banners displayed at sites will earn publisher nothing while JuicyAds.com is pocketing full fees from Advertisers.

How Do I Know ?

I discovered something is amissed when some of my poupular sites made less than it used to be while when the traffic has also doubled due to some promotional effort. The thing is I also display banners from BlackLabelAds.com along with JuicyAds.com, and earnings from BlackLabelAds.com has increased accordingly but JuicyAds.com's has gone down !

So out of curiosity, I took a look at the stats, I found out only stats of certain banners is displayed at their site, I asked Jay (the scam artist boss of JuicyAds.com). And he instead asked me "your banner is Ad# 123456, right ? And he said the traffic for so and so banner/site is a very low ..."

I didn't suspect anything then. Weeks later, I noticed their stats actually show no traffic at all for one of my most popular site !

I asked them again, Jay the scammer himself responded and said the site has very low traffics (but stats from two other sources are telling me this is not true).

How Doe JuicyAds.com Do That (Scam)?

So, I decided to take at look at the Ad Code, guess what ? I found out the about 2/3 of Ads Code at my sites are completely different from the ones JuicyAds.com are selling to Advertisers!

In another words, I am displaying the ad banners just for fun while he collects all the revenue generated from Advertisers.

To straighten things out, I replaced the Ad Codes with the one JuicyAds.com is selling to Advertisers (many from my sites even have long term contract from Advertisers) and all of a sudden, all the stats of my banners skyrocketed at JuicyAds.com !

So I asked Jay the scammer what is happening ? He couldn't explain anything to me at all.

I may be one the very few performing publishers who happens to discover their unthinkable scam - I have heard of scammers who do not pay at all, I have never heard of scammer that steal banners from publishers like JuicyAds.com.

I asked for payment, they even refused to pay what is left in my account (they have been stealing 2/3 of the banners from me all the times !).

In the end, I have no choice but to start deleting my account and along the process, I must have alerted some Advertisers because I actuall "rejected" many of the long term Advertisers on my site, then only Jay finally responded and asking stupid questions ... But I have decided to expose their scam.

You have been warned.

I think I missed the start for this hunt , but what is this article?
Maybe I have the wrong idea but does it connect Juicyads and ScamFast?

Because I've been working with juicyads for a few years and I can't picture them involved in this.

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January 07, 2014, 04:27:12 PM
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It seems like many people are not aware of this but you don't have to make your refund request by Jan 15.

That date is arbitrary and not enforceable.

If HashFast has not shipped to you yet, you can get a refund AT ANY TIME>

They have not yet shipped, so no sale has taken place and you have not agreed to any contract.

They can't just say, "sorry, you ordered a product but didn't ask for your money back soon enough so we get to keep it regardless of whether we ever send you anything"

Don't believe their lies!!!
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January 07, 2014, 04:33:26 PM
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I do so wish that I could join a lawsuit, but I paid in USD.  I hate this kind of trash company even more than I want to earn BTC or want my own (relatively small) investment back.

I'm not sure I'll buy bitcoin miners again, but it seems to me that an independent miner "diligence squad" would be a pretty cool thing to have when other new companies appear.  Run down all this stuff that Phinnaeus is finding on new startups, but hopefully pull it together BEFORE you order, not later.  So people like Long Dong and Scrotum are known entities at an earlier stage.

Come to think of it, that's kind of the job of a press, but the bitcoin press isn't mature enough to pull it off.

Just a thought...
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