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January 16, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
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We are very happy with the tech though, it is very impressive and works well.
That's all I have for now, I will keep feeding you guys more information as it comes in Smiley
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Cedivad,

TY for the update.  ~looks like a 'Few' to me...  Doesn't surprise me though, all indications are the play is fast and loose with no forethought or qualified personnel.

Following a quick review of the photo, my professional critique of the installation is as follows:

FAIL

1  Side vents are 50% obstructed by mounting brackets on open side.  
    Comment:  Rack, shelving modules should have been employed instead of mounting brackets.

2  Side vent between units appears fully obstructed (Rack to Rack)
    Comment:  Poor design, lack of knowledge and planning.

3  Bottom Unit in rack 1 is not readily accessible ~the unit above it must be removed to service the bottom one. (We don't put units on the bottom... (Dirt, physical damage, et cetera) start from top down.
    Comment:  Poor design, lack of knowledge and planning.  Guess there is a first time for everything...

4  Rack density does not permit ventilation between units, again amateurish and problematic lending to sever thermal issues down the road that will undoubtedly require considerable configuration.  Problem will likely present when they continue to fill the racks if they follow the same installation format.


For what its worth, this photo may be old ~except for the end rack units, the rest are not aligned or properly secured, looks like it may have been taken during the build itself.

General question to the forum:  With the limited data thus far available, has anyone else calculated thermal output per GN?


EDIT:  PS~  The tech in the photo is named Aladdin; he is waiting for the HF Genie to make a wish...  Not to fret Aladdin, the magic smoke will appear soon...
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January 16, 2014, 04:06:28 PM
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of course it will be pre-orders too!

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January 16, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
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Not to defend HF, but Im slightly surprised about the legal steps being taken against them if you consider that to my knowledge, no one has taken BFL to court yet.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394015.0

lots of folks have taken bfl to court and won in small claims etc..but enforcement is not there mainly because FTC and the law treats BFL products like a consumer product if you get it even 1 year late..the enforcement types are like "why are you bothering us"

also why no lawyer will YET take a class action suit...they sent a product....

so they are using this loophole in enforcement..bfl that is to slide

don't have any HF myself but looks like the same road if they are sending refunds back w/o notice in usd to you guys

anyway...i went thru it all and got no place with bfl and ftc/paypal executive board/county attorney/BBB (no power but sympathetic) etc

if i'm wrong point me someplace..but if you GET an item at least from BFL even 1 year late...tough......they seem only interested in true vaporware scams

as far as an 'evil genius plan goes it seems flawless....hopefully HF will not go down this road.....)

wish you all the best of luck been there it sucks

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Dude... seriously, stop posting the same BS over and over. Nobody has taken BFL to court and won. There is one default judgement against BFL because we were never actually served the papers or knew about the case. You can rest assured that will not happen again. Beyond that, there has been no legal action to speak of, and certainly no court cases or judgement or people failing to collect.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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January 16, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
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Hey Josh,

Care to share how is it possible that someone sues you and you don't receive the proper paperwork to be there when a judge will decide if they are wrong or right?

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 16, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
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I don't think that's possible cedivad.  A judge won't decide who's wrong or right in the case you outline, they will just issue a default judgement, which is what happened.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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January 16, 2014, 04:50:31 PM
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A judge won't decide who's wrong or right in the case you outline, they will just issue a default judgement, which is what happened.

Ok, you are right. Yet to failed to show up, and you should have received some certified mail that notified you of what was gonna happen. Right? So how is it possible that you didn't show up by accident?

Maybe they sued the wrong BFL? Like HF that already has at least 3 different companies?

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 16, 2014, 04:52:47 PM
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Hey Josh,
Care to share how is it possible that someone sues you and you don't receive the proper paperwork to be there when a judge will decide if they are wrong or right?
When you register any type of company in the USA, you need to list a registered agent.   That person or lawyer is the person that official matters would be sent to.   You need to update this every year.   Many times people do not realize this or they did not create their business through a law firm and just think this does not matter.

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January 16, 2014, 05:03:56 PM
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A judge won't decide who's wrong or right in the case you outline, they will just issue a default judgement, which is what happened.

Ok, you are right. Yet to failed to show up, and you should have received some certified mail that notified you of what was gonna happen. Right? So how is it possible that you didn't show up by accident?

Maybe they sued the wrong BFL? Like HF that already has at least 3 different companies?

I'm not sure how I can rephrase it so that it's more clear.  We were never notified that there was a case pending against us. The first we learned of it was through the forum. If we had been notified, you can be sure we would have shown up. But enough with derailing Hashfasts' thread, please continue the regularly scheduled posting here.  I just wanted to debunk the cut-and-paste Searing keeps posting, which is full of misinformation.

I'll post again next time he does it as well, but otherwise, I have nothing else I care to contribute to this thread at the moment.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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January 16, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
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I believe the regularly scheduled programming is to discuss the definition of "many"
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January 16, 2014, 05:18:11 PM
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many angry customers
several arbitration proceedings being filled (and several is not the plural of seven, no [what is the plural of a number anyway?])
a few lawsuits
a couple of happy cofounders and a marketing guy
another marketing guy that think to have finally a job that qualifies his qualities

and everyone else shitting bricks.

and not even an update in 15 days, while we were expecting 4.

(HashFast in a few lines)

What can we talk about next? TerraHashes?

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 16, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
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A judge won't decide who's wrong or right in the case you outline, they will just issue a default judgement, which is what happened.

Ok, you are right. Yet to failed to show up, and you should have received some certified mail that notified you of what was gonna happen. Right? So how is it possible that you didn't show up by accident?

Maybe they sued the wrong BFL? Like HF that already has at least 3 different companies?

I'm not sure how I can rephrase it so that it's more clear.  We were never notified that there was a case pending against us. The first we learned of it was through the forum. If we had been notified, you can be sure we would have shown up. But enough with derailing Hashfasts' thread, please continue the regularly scheduled posting here.  I just wanted to debunk the cut-and-paste Searing keeps posting, which is full of misinformation.

I'll post again next time he does it as well, but otherwise, I have nothing else I care to contribute to this thread at the moment.


Perhaps you might to give the forum some insight as to what you think might have gone wrong at Hashfast and how BFL would deal with a similar situation if it arose in the future?

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January 16, 2014, 05:27:36 PM
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The difference between HF and BFL is that someone (that was said to cover a high level position, but it was naturally denied) at BFL already spent some good time in jail so they made sure not to repeat the same mistakes again.

The guy was in prison in Italy, i wonder how is it possible that he negotiated a reduction of the sentence thanks to Italia.  Grin

(i'm not sure i remember this correctly, it has been over a year ago).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110805.0

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 16, 2014, 05:50:43 PM
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LOL cedivad   Cheesy  
that's funny  to see how josh take position for scamfast...    
.. I think  story  will happen again with monarchs customers ... get ready !!   Grin




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January 16, 2014, 06:06:27 PM
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Following a quick review of the photo, my professional critique of the installation is as follows:

FAIL

1  Side vents are 50% obstructed by mounting brackets on open side.  
    Comment:  Rack, shelving modules should have been employed instead of mounting brackets.

Already discussed and picked apart.  Thanks for coming late to the party *golf clap*.

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2  Side vent between units appears fully obstructed (Rack to Rack)
    Comment:  Poor design, lack of knowledge and planning.

Look closer, there is an air-gap.

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3  Bottom Unit in rack 1 is not readily accessible ~the unit above it must be removed to service the bottom one. (We don't put units on the bottom... (Dirt, physical damage, et cetera) start from top down.
    Comment:  Poor design, lack of knowledge and planning.  Guess there is a first time for everything...

Yes it is.  Again, look closer, the lowest unit is raised.  You can tell by the shadow under the rear corner.

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4  Rack density does not permit ventilation between units, again amateurish and problematic lending to sever thermal issues down the road that will undoubtedly require considerable configuration.  Problem will likely present when they continue to fill the racks if they follow the same installation format.

Guy, you need to get your eyes checked.  Only the first rack is secured.  The rest are floating.


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For what its worth, this photo may be old ~except for the end rack units, the rest are not aligned or properly secured, looks like it may have been taken during the build itself.

Then what is the purpose of your "professional critique" of the installation?  

You sound a lot like our old friend Bargraphics.
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January 16, 2014, 06:50:31 PM
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I work @ HashFast. (Just doing it for the paycheck, hate this fucking piece of shit company)
Ask me anything Smiley

Who at hashfast was the troll behind iCEBREAKER?

de Castro


How do i know this for sure is a scam, beside working for HF?
Because all the money that´s left is sitting on a account belonging to a bank in a country which first letter is S.
(Not in the states anymore)

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January 16, 2014, 06:58:01 PM
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no.. show me the poney !  Cool
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January 16, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
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How do i know this for sure is a scam, beside working for HF?
Because all the money that´s left is sitting on a account belonging to a bank in a country which first letter is S.
(Not in the states anymore)

Suckburg?
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January 16, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
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Wait, people running bitcoin scams that moves the money in FIAT in a fiscal paradise?

Something must have gone completely wrong along the road.

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Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 16, 2014, 07:01:53 PM
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Everytime I see...



I can't help but think of...

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January 16, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
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I work @ HashFast. (Just doing it for the paycheck, hate this fucking piece of shit company)
Ask me anything Smiley

Who at hashfast was the troll behind iCEBREAKER?

I would think that

de Castro


How do i know this for sure is a scam, beside working for HF?
Because all the money that´s left is sitting on a account belonging to a bank in a country which first letter is S.
(Not in the states anymore)

If that's indeed the case then perhaps some disgruntled customers in the US might want to contact their local FBI office to express 'concerns' that money laundering is taking place, especially considering the large amount of Bitcoin payments that Hashfast received coupled with large offshore transfers? It's pretty much guaranteed to get attention.........much quicker than the courts.

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