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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 877775 times)
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December 26, 2013, 02:02:47 AM
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Not looking good for Dec 31 shipping given these last few thread pages Sad

Remember, it's "delivery by Dec 31". We've already passed the point of possible delivery for a lot of people, i.e. International customers.

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December 26, 2013, 02:24:25 AM
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Remember, it's "delivery by Dec 31". We've already passed the point of possible delivery for a lot of people, i.e. International customers.

It's a tough row to hoe, but they can still make it for most of the planet if they ship in the next couple days.  

Express out of Montreal in time to catch the PM flights over the Atlantic ... North America and Europe easily, even if shipping Saturday.  Most of Asia too.  Major cities in other places probably as well.  Not cheap, but possible.  I'd expect that covers 90% or more of their orders.
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December 26, 2013, 02:28:08 AM
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I just want to remind everyone we all know what it says in the terms, but just because the terms say something doesnt mean they will follow it.
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December 26, 2013, 02:30:37 AM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling this this is an outright scam? As in a take the money and run scam?..

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December 26, 2013, 02:31:38 AM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling this this is an outright scam? As in a take the money and run scam?..

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December 26, 2013, 02:36:17 AM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling this this is an outright scam? As in a take the money and run scam?..

No... but I am getting the feeling that they are quickly finding out that they aren't as smart as they thought they were.

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December 26, 2013, 02:58:06 AM
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Remember, it's "delivery by Dec 31". We've already passed the point of possible delivery for a lot of people, i.e. International customers.

It's a tough row to hoe, but they can still make it for most of the planet if they ship in the next couple days.  

Express out of Montreal in time to catch the PM flights over the Atlantic ... North America and Europe easily, even if shipping Saturday.  Most of Asia too.  Major cities in other places probably as well.  Not cheap, but possible.  I'd expect that covers 90% or more of their orders.
Delivery as far as HashFast is concerned is delivering it to the courier to bring to you. The terms were EX WORKS, so once the goods are loaded up on the FedEx/DHL/UPS truck, HashFast's obligations have ended. There's a whole bunch of other scummy stuff in the (multiple versions of the) ToS, but that is pretty standard. It really isn't HashFast's fault if your unit gets stuck in customs in Upper-Tzatzikistan for an extra week. Now the two month delay from October to now is another story, but that's pretty well covered here...
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December 26, 2013, 03:02:59 AM
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What do you all figure the probability that HashFast WILL deliver by December 31st? I'm thinking around 70% chance. If they had some pictures of wafers/silicon, I'd think higher.

Last November, I asked this question, and some people responded optimistically with 90+%. What do you guys figure the probability is at now? I'm thinking 40%.

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December 26, 2013, 03:03:35 AM
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What do you all figure the probability that HashFast WILL deliver by December 31st? I'm thinking around 70% chance. If they had some pictures of wafers/silicon, I'd think higher.

Last November, I asked this question, and some people responded optimistically with 90+%. What do you guys figure the probability is at now? I'm thinking 40%.

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December 26, 2013, 03:13:29 AM
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What do you all figure the probability that HashFast WILL deliver by December 31st? I'm thinking around 70% chance. If they had some pictures of wafers/silicon, I'd think higher.

Last November, I asked this question, and some people responded optimistically with 90+%. What do you guys figure the probability is at now? I'm thinking 40%.

deliver or ship?

ship maybe 10%

deliver close to 0%
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December 26, 2013, 03:15:57 AM
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0% chance of delivering the entire batch 1

Still a small chance they'll do a BFL and ship a few pre release prototypes to reviewers in time (and announce that they're shipping triumphantly)
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December 26, 2013, 03:32:22 AM
Last edit: December 26, 2013, 03:57:33 AM by minternj
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It doesn't matter when they ship the first Baby Jet. It only matters when they ship YOUR baby jet.  Unless we are talking about some bet or something, refund happens if you don't get yours on the 31st.

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December 26, 2013, 03:56:33 AM
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It really isn't HashFast's fault if your unit gets stuck in customs in Upper-Tzatzikistan for an extra week.

Shit, I'd be happy to be stuck in Upper Tzatzikistan for an extra week, provided I had enough pita bread.

More seriously, my unstated assumption there was that "delivery" could be construed to include situations in which the product would arrive under ideal circumstances - customs, weather, broken airplanes, etc... aside.
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December 26, 2013, 04:09:25 AM
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It doesn't matter when they ship the first Baby Jet. It only matters when they ship YOUR baby jet.  Unless we are talking about some bet or something, refund happens if you don't get your at the 31st.

If ciarra is as good as everyone says, it won't take them long to work through the entire batch (3 days max?).  I have a feeling having a day 1 order (like me) won't mean much.

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December 26, 2013, 04:28:44 AM
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As a note of interest: being in Quebec, Ciarra should be closed for business Dec 26 for Boxing Day.

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December 26, 2013, 05:06:58 AM
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Remember, it's "delivery by Dec 31". We've already passed the point of possible delivery for a lot of people, i.e. International customers.

It's a tough row to hoe, but they can still make it for most of the planet if they ship in the next couple days.  

Express out of Montreal in time to catch the PM flights over the Atlantic ... North America and Europe easily, even if shipping Saturday.  Most of Asia too.  Major cities in other places probably as well.  Not cheap, but possible.  I'd expect that covers 90% or more of their orders.
Delivery as far as HashFast is concerned is delivering it to the courier to bring to you. The terms were EX WORKS, so once the goods are loaded up on the FedEx/DHL/UPS truck, HashFast's obligations have ended. There's a whole bunch of other scummy stuff in the (multiple versions of the) ToS, but that is pretty standard. It really isn't HashFast's fault if your unit gets stuck in customs in Upper-Tzatzikistan for an extra week. Now the two month delay from October to now is another story, but that's pretty well covered here...

HAHAHA. BS. We don't give a f*ck if they start touring BJ's around the country. It's based on actual DELIVERY. Not based on stupid product "truck load" crap. No need to bend over before the party ends.
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December 26, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
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Actually i think that the tos are quite clear that they are using EXWORK terminology. Delivery = To the courier. However if that is correct, why they upgraded everyone to overnight shipping?

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December 26, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling this this is an outright scam? As in a take the money and run scam?..
i dont think they can disapear like that..
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December 26, 2013, 10:21:53 AM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling this this is an outright scam? As in a take the money and run scam?..
i dont think they can disapear like that..

If they can make a pink pony coming out of a bag of weed and laugh like that , they can pull this one also.

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December 26, 2013, 12:14:33 PM
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^^ It is really extremely odd that they haven't posted anything to stop/prevent this kind of crazy speculation. Of course they can't just disappear. They are a US company, their identities are known, people have met them etc And if they had simply been planning to run away with people's money, I am sure there would have been better ways to do so - not spend millions of $'s paying TSMC, Uniquify etc for one.

But as it must be clear to everyone by now that they have run into some problems/bottlenecks, why not simply say so? I am sure people would prefer to know than to be kept in the dark. The lack of communication is only making things worse and I don't think people's reactions will be any worse if they knew.




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