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December 28, 2013, 12:27:51 PM |
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The MPP says "up to 4x advertised hashrate". Advertised hashrate = 400GH. Please correct me if wrong.
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December 28, 2013, 12:29:46 PM |
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The MPP says "up to 4x advertised hashrate". Advertised hashrate = 400GH. Please correct me if wrong.
I believe this to be correct - 4x advertised (i.e., 400 Gh/s). |
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December 28, 2013, 12:48:02 PM |
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The mpp is probably going to be 4x.. which means we get an extra 3 modules for each baby jet. correct?
orig 400.
mpp 1200.
final modules for each jet. 4.
4x700 actual. 2.8Th final hashrate for each jet..
sounds like finally some better news.
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December 28, 2013, 12:49:49 PM |
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honestly, i expect 4 additional modules per BJ
maybe i am wrong, but thats what we all should be looking forward
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December 28, 2013, 12:51:41 PM |
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Well, if the chip can do 800Gh/s and they give us 4 extra chips in addition to the BJ then that would be 800% MPP (900% if you include the extra 400Gh/s from the original BJ). I would be ok with that as long as they delivered it with-in a relatively short time frame (before Feb)
Deliver what before that time? The order or the MPP ? =))))) |
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December 28, 2013, 12:56:14 PM |
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The mpp is probably going to be 4x.. which means we get an extra 3 modules for each baby jet. correct?
orig 400.
mpp 1200.
final modules for each jet. 4.
4x700 actual. 2.8Th final hashrate for each jet..
sounds like finally some better news.
I stand corrected... it is 4 more modules.. for a grand total of appox 3.5th for each jet... sweet! |
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December 28, 2013, 01:04:58 PM |
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a) who said that the chip does 800GH? someone that said ops, i'm wrong, 2 hours after that? And yet people keep think that the chip does 800GH?
b) read the MPP how many times you want to understand that it's as vague as possible and __apart from the undefined delivery dates__ they can either ship you 4 chips or 400GH*4, depending on how they read it. Do you want your opinion to count? Get a lawyer.
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December 28, 2013, 01:13:43 PM |
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a) who said that the chip does 800GH? someone that said ops, i'm wrong, 2 hours after that? And yet people keep think that the chip does 800GH?
b) read the MPP how many times you want to understand that it's as vague as possible and __apart from the undefined delivery dates__ they can either ship you 4 chips or 400GH*4, depending on how they read it. Do you want your opinion to count? Get a lawyer.
#1. i calculated at 700, not 8 #2 http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KSZMq1L9ZWEBKEHuW7ACXWZJYdxiTdaVt(this is the right link, yes?) |
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December 28, 2013, 01:22:40 PM |
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There must be something wrong with eligius... the test unit is currently showing 1200GH/s for the most recent time intervals.
Multiple machines?
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December 28, 2013, 01:24:39 PM |
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There must be something wrong with eligius... the test unit is currently showing 1200GH/s for the most recent time intervals.
Multiple machines?
Refresh page - it will fix it... |
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December 28, 2013, 01:35:15 PM |
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I have to admit that 800GH/chip, if stable, would be impressive to say at least. I wonder how the sierra is supposed to dissipiate 3kW of heat in its 4U. Not even recent and ultra high density datacenters can handle 30kW/rack.
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December 28, 2013, 01:35:38 PM |
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With all the bad new/lack of news... and now the sudden outpouring of good news... I am not quite prepared to believe completely.
Maybe they could point a 2nd one (or a sierra) against a different pool to see if the numbers are consistent.
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December 28, 2013, 01:37:19 PM |
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I have to admit that 800GH/chip, if stable, would be impressive to say at least. I wonder how the sierra is supposed to dissipiate 3kW of heat in its 4U. Not even recent and ultra high density datacenters can handle 30kW/rack.
I am still going to do my calcs on 700.... anything over that would be a bonus |
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December 28, 2013, 01:45:13 PM |
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What if they ship those amazing 1PH/s BJ after the 31 of Dec and you accept the delivery anyway, refusing the refund, and you discover that they only go at 600GH top?
I think i could should expect such a move from them.
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December 28, 2013, 01:46:46 PM |
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I am still going to do my calcs on 700.... anything over that would be a bonus
Ignoring power costs, my projections at 700GH on Jan 1st, and 4x (2800 GH) on Feb. 3rd give a total lifetime loss of 17BTC. Which is a much smaller loss we were looking at before. With 800GH the loss narrow to 11BTC/BJ1. |
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December 28, 2013, 01:48:39 PM |
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I have to admit that 800GH/chip, if stable, would be impressive to say at least. I wonder how the sierra is supposed to dissipiate 3kW of heat in its 4U. Not even recent and ultra high density datacenters can handle 30kW/rack.
Would probably need to just space the units in the rack and limit it to like 14KW/rack densities. Not aware of many DC that can accommodate 14kW. |
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December 28, 2013, 01:51:28 PM |
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Not aware of many DC that can accommodate 14kW.
Mine... At least that... |
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December 28, 2013, 01:56:42 PM |
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Not aware of many DC that can accommodate 14kW.
Mine... At least that... Interesting - None I have have researched (well over a dozen) will accept multiple racks over 12kW. |
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December 28, 2013, 01:56:56 PM |
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I am still going to do my calcs on 700.... anything over that would be a bonus
Ignoring power costs, my projections at 700GH on Jan 1st, and 4x (2800 GH) on Feb. 3rd give a total lifetime loss of 17BTC. Which is a much smaller loss we were looking at before. With 800GH the loss narrow to 11BTC. With my calculations we should get our btc back with 700 on Jan 1 and 2800 on March 1 by July-August (when network hash rate will be around 65Ph/s) Hmm... I like your numbers better. Are you using your own spreadsheet? |
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