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 December 26, 2017, 03:35:54 AM

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.

How can one do a "cost / benefit analysis" without knowing the cost? Asking for a friend.
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 December 26, 2017, 04:39:04 AM

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.

How can one do a "cost / benefit analysis" without knowing the cost? Asking for a friend.

I think he just calculated that (7.3TH/s divided by 1150 Watts) is less than (11TH/s divided by 1200 Watts). But yeah... obviously.

If anyone is willing to pay the price for the 821 (they will), then it doesn't matter what the actual ROI is... the fact that a more efficient machine is mining the same currencies immediately reduces your earnings. This is why you can't just decide to fill a warehouse with Avalon 6s to avoid buying Avalon 8s.

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 December 26, 2017, 04:55:43 AM

Damn blokforge is starting to annoy me.  They just pushed the 741 / 821 order date a week, to January 2, same time.  I've been emailing with someone at blokforge, and they are limiting everyone to 2 miners of any model.  Now I got to wait ANOTHER week, DAMMITT!!!!!

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.  I don't know why anyone would waste money on a 741 at this point.  And ebay prices are simply ridiculous.  Those commie bastards at Canaan jacked the price to insane levels.  I'll keep trading bitcoin on the highs and lows, add my tax refund, and buy a bunch of 841s in a few months.

Current pricing for the 821 is \$1850, Canaan has it commented out in the HTML source code on that page of their site so it does not show yet.  Looks like they are trying to squeeze every penny out of the 741s.

Other than the 821 being better than the 741, I don't believe any of the rest. And there is no comment in the source code about the price of the 821.

Wtf are you on here just lying to everyone?

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mikez_nj
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 December 26, 2017, 02:01:14 PM

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.

How can one do a "cost / benefit analysis" without knowing the cost? Asking for a friend.

I think he just calculated that (7.3TH/s divided by 1150 Watts) is less than (11TH/s divided by 1200 Watts). But yeah... obviously.

If anyone is willing to pay the price for the 821 (they will), then it doesn't matter what the actual ROI is... the fact that a more efficient machine is mining the same currencies immediately reduces your earnings. This is why you can't just decide to fill a warehouse with Avalon 6s to avoid buying Avalon 8s.

It's not the efficiency that matters, it's the overall hashrate being added to the pool (and the timing of it being added) that affects earnings. Network difficulty is what drives earnings, and network difficulty is a function of network hashrate.
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 December 26, 2017, 07:19:42 PM

Can anyone get into the blokforge.com website today?I've been trying sporadically over the last 2+ hours and get no where (Connect Reset).  I was looking for some definitive news today, but am stymied by the website issue.
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 December 26, 2017, 07:30:55 PM

Can anyone get into the blokforge.com website today?I've been trying sporadically over the last 2+ hours and get no where (Connect Reset).  I was looking for some definitive news today, but am stymied by the website issue.

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 December 26, 2017, 07:49:26 PM

Can anyone get into the blokforge.com website today?I've been trying sporadically over the last 2+ hours and get no where (Connect Reset).  I was looking for some definitive news today, but am stymied by the website issue.

Clear your browser cache and reopen it. Been working all day for me.

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 December 26, 2017, 10:29:43 PM

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.

How can one do a "cost / benefit analysis" without knowing the cost? Asking for a friend.

I think he just calculated that (7.3TH/s divided by 1150 Watts) is less than (11TH/s divided by 1200 Watts). But yeah... obviously.

If anyone is willing to pay the price for the 821 (they will), then it doesn't matter what the actual ROI is... the fact that a more efficient machine is mining the same currencies immediately reduces your earnings. This is why you can't just decide to fill a warehouse with Avalon 6s to avoid buying Avalon 8s.

It's not the efficiency that matters, it's the overall hashrate being added to the pool (and the timing of it being added) that affects earnings. Network difficulty is what drives earnings, and network difficulty is a function of network hashrate.

Efficiency affects NET earnings quite a bit, unless you have free power available in a capacity greater than you can afford to buy miners to fill up.

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 December 26, 2017, 11:49:46 PM

Damn blokforge is starting to annoy me.  They just pushed the 741 / 821 order date a week, to January 2, same time.  I've been emailing with someone at blokforge, and they are limiting everyone to 2 miners of any model.  Now I got to wait ANOTHER week, DAMMITT!!!!!

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.  I don't know why anyone would waste money on a 741 at this point.  And ebay prices are simply ridiculous.  Those commie bastards at Canaan jacked the price to insane levels.  I'll keep trading bitcoin on the highs and lows, add my tax refund, and buy a bunch of 841s in a few months.

Current pricing for the 821 is \$1850, Canaan has it commented out in the HTML source code on that page of their site so it does not show yet.  Looks like they are trying to squeeze every penny out of the 741s.

1850 ?!!!!!! the reseller pack (60 miners + 60 controller + 60 power ) = 174 K\$

so a working unit = 174/60 = 2900 \$ for the reseller + shipping fees + profit for the reseller = NO WAY 1850\$ the unit

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 December 27, 2017, 12:12:32 AM

now its pretty much impossible to get on the blokforge site... everyone seems to be trying to get the 741
mikez_nj
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 December 27, 2017, 12:16:37 AM

I've done a cost / benefit analysis on the 821 and 841, and they are both far better than the 741 for power usage and hash rate.

How can one do a "cost / benefit analysis" without knowing the cost? Asking for a friend.

I think he just calculated that (7.3TH/s divided by 1150 Watts) is less than (11TH/s divided by 1200 Watts). But yeah... obviously.

If anyone is willing to pay the price for the 821 (they will), then it doesn't matter what the actual ROI is... the fact that a more efficient machine is mining the same currencies immediately reduces your earnings. This is why you can't just decide to fill a warehouse with Avalon 6s to avoid buying Avalon 8s.

It's not the efficiency that matters, it's the overall hashrate being added to the pool (and the timing of it being added) that affects earnings. Network difficulty is what drives earnings, and network difficulty is a function of network hashrate.

Efficiency affects NET earnings quite a bit, unless you have free power available in a capacity greater than you can afford to buy miners to fill up.

Difficulty affects net AND gross earnings as well - specifically as it is a function of *time* and hashrate. It's very possible for one machine to be much less efficient and still be more profitable than another machine simply because it is available sooner. Profitability calculators are mostly bullshit for a number of reasons, not the least of which is they don't accurately model difficulty over time very well.
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 December 27, 2017, 12:17:50 AM

AND THEY'RE GONE!!!
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 December 27, 2017, 12:27:23 AM

in stock, got like 10 emails to notify me that it is in stock.
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 December 27, 2017, 12:29:23 AM

you can add to cart, but can't check out, lousy way to run it!

maheswaran
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 December 27, 2017, 12:30:30 AM

is it sold out or just a website bug ?
CryptoHodler30
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 December 27, 2017, 12:34:52 AM

yes i am getting the same issue
kartala
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 December 27, 2017, 12:37:46 AM

Sitting on the computer 10 minutes prior the selling and still no buy. the site was dead at one point. Poor work there Blokforge.
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 December 27, 2017, 12:39:01 AM

Wow, those were quickly SOLD OUT.

maheswaran
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 December 27, 2017, 12:39:39 AM

A while ago, i could get the payment page but it hangs in there. Couldn't complete. Now says no stock during checkout. if they limit 2 per person, it should last at least 30mins
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 December 27, 2017, 12:41:20 AM

They just posted on Twitter, all sold out.

On edit: Tweet deleted... Damn should have screenshotted it.

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