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July 26, 2013, 02:20:02 PM
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When I give a peek to 4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people seem to be so ignorant and willing to voice their ignorance whereas in communities such as Bitcointalk (and a couple others which I shall not name) people are able to put together logical arguments, have discussions and view the current events without the glasses with a thick layer of crappy propaganda on them?

Seems that you rarely stumble upon ignorant fools on here.








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July 26, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
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When I give a peek to 4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people seem to be so ignorant and willing to voice their ignorance whereas in communities such as Bitcointalk (and a couple others which I shall not name) people are able to put together logical arguments, have discussions and view the current events without the glasses with a thick layer of crappy propaganda on them?

Seems that you rarely stumble upon ignorant fools on here.

I disagree, I see it totally flip-sided.

This forum is filled with a lot of trolls due to very low moderation.

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July 26, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
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4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people
These groups are not representative of humanity at large. At least, I hope to Eris they aren't. Undecided

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July 26, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
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i think you are right. on other forms i can count the number of people who know how to make a rational argument on my fingers, and i cant count the fools on my fingers. here its the opposite, i can count the fools and cant count the number of people who know how to make a rational argument.

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July 26, 2013, 02:43:13 PM
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i feel on 4chan/reddit there are many intelligent kids, they're just also cynical and let off steam.

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July 26, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
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Or........intelligent people control more sock-puppets here....thus artificially inflating our collective intelligence.

Something of a intelligence bubble. Meh.
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July 26, 2013, 02:55:47 PM
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i think you are right. on other forms i can count the number of people who know how to make a rational argument on my fingers, and i cant count the fools on my fingers. here its the opposite, i can count the fools and cant count the number of people who know how to make a rational argument.

My point exactly, it's not seldom to see people blaming either:
A) The Jews
B) Ni--ers
C) Israel

On either of those for pretty much any problem anyone in the world has yet I have never stumbled upon a single thread like that on here, despite the fact that the forum isn't heavily moderated.

People also seem to be aware of the need of decriminalizing controlled substances, stopping waging wars overseas, opposing the military industrial complex and are generally aware of how rotten to the core the system is on here.








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July 26, 2013, 03:05:50 PM
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I have never stumbled upon a single thread like that on here,

You should probably go look in the politics forum.
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July 26, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
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hang out in either btc-e.com or sealswithclubs.eu 's chat lobby for awhile see if your opinion still holds.

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July 26, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
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we love demonizing fools here  Grin
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July 26, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
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People also seem to be aware of the need of decriminalizing controlled substances, stopping waging wars overseas, opposing the military industrial complex and are generally aware of how rotten to the core the system is on here.

The perceived difference comes from the fact that you share most beliefs with the rest of the people on here. So instead of reading about someone blaming those damn jews, you are reading about how we (the bitcoiners) will kick the Bilderberg group of the new world order throne.

Which may not be regarded as propaganda but instead as conspiracy by most intellectual societies I know (most academics, etc).

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4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people
These groups are not representative of humanity at large. At least, I hope to Eris they aren't. Undecided
They're not representative of humanity at large. They're representative of humanity at large in 15-20 years.

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July 26, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
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One simple reason for the generalization made in your topic title is that Bitcoin is still very user unfriendly. Not being idiot proof means you can't have many idiots!

The people I know who are the most into Bitcoin are a certain type of person, usually people who are intelligent enough to figure out the Bitcoin system or at least clever enough to take interest and learn about it. I think one mark of unintelligent people is laziness towards seeking out information. That's why they aren't smart!

It's hard to take interest in Bitcoin at this step if you aren't smart, because you can't use Bitcoin unless you're smart enough to figure out how!

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July 26, 2013, 04:32:24 PM
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There's some noise here, but mostly you could just ignore such users. I don't think you lose much valuable information from ignoring certain people, as what they say are far too often useless. At one point, you become too old to troll, and want to keep things rational and civilized.

I think one reason you find more intelligent people on bitcointalk is because you need to be somewhat intelligent to understand bitcoin, and it's kind of a nerd thing, and you need to be somewhat intelligent to be nerdy? If that makes sense..

But there's quite a lot of trolls and weird behaving people here as well.
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July 26, 2013, 05:48:37 PM
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I think most are missing one important thing: the newbie system.

Other websites take seconds to join. Register, then post. BitcoinTalk is different. The newbie system places a cost on joining. Consequently, people will not join just to flame a certain post they read. People will only join out of genuine interest. After expending the time and effort needed to join, people naturally take the forums more seriously. They then post not out of sudden urge to do so, but out of a genuine desire for constructive discourse.

Many claim the newbie system is too difficult or unnecessary. I believe it is the reason why BitcoinTalk trumps other discussion groups.
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July 26, 2013, 06:15:36 PM
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You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

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July 26, 2013, 06:30:33 PM
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/as opposed to actually being intelligent?

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July 26, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
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It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Such people, without using any negative words about them, but let's just call them 'avg. citizens' just to be polite, today uses lots of very advanced and complicated equipment. Like a computer, a car and other stuff. All of these items are quite complicated in their inner workings, but they've made customer friendly, and you don't need to know much about how it works, to just use it. I would think in the future, there will be customer friendly ways to use bitcoin, which makes it rather easy to use, and you don't have to know anything about the underlying system.
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July 26, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
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4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people
These groups are not representative of humanity at large. At least, I hope to Eris they aren't. Undecided
They're not representative of humanity at large. They're representative of humanity at large in 15-20 years.

Erisian ideology is stronger than ever, because more than ever, society at large is supreme commander of fuckin' idiot. The dumber we are, as a whole, the smarter we, as individuals, think we are. That's the true cycle of revolutions, and why we're destined to become continually more stupid. The rise of Discordianism is nothing less than an indicator of an imminent cultural revolution. - And more pony porn.

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July 26, 2013, 07:19:49 PM
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The ignore button allows people who can plague other forums to remove themselves unwittingly from general view. It's a great idea!

Pro tip: when you're bored, cruise the newbie forums - help out where you can and harvest names to ignore based on their first few vacuous posts. Later on, when they get their wings and have posted often enough, peek at the color of their ignore button to see how good your early judgment was. You can always give them a second chance if appropriate - and them none the wiser either way.                  Smiley
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