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July 27, 2013, 08:00:39 AM
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Spain Privatizes The Sun: Issues Heavy Penalties For Collecting Sunlight
 
SPAIN – If you get caught collecting photons of sunlight for your own use you can drop a fine not exceeding 30 million. 
 

 
So if you were thinking that the best option was just to have some solar panels that were down 80% in cost and have the opportunity to disconnect from the mains and your bill scam, you can forget about it. 
 
With the terror of “destabilized” power consumption, sometime in 2010 someone has decided to privatize the sun …. yes you read that right: Spain, unlike the rest of Europe, levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line. 
 
Committing the sacrilege of being energy independent can be very expensive, and the sun now is only for the privileged few and the power companies. The ”Spanish Photovoltaic Union (UNEF ), which brings together some 300 companies representing 85% of the industry, ensures that these changes would be more expensive than resorting to conventional supply. 
---from https://earthfirstnews.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/spain-privatizes-the-sun-issues-heavy-penalties-for-collecting-sunlight/

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July 28, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
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...... >_<
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July 28, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
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I hope they ran it past her first

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July 28, 2013, 12:22:58 AM
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And people say the portuguese gubermint is bad... lol

WTF, what's next, oxigen?

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July 28, 2013, 08:09:49 AM
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Sun belonged to no one, now it "belongs" to state, I think that when state takes something that was not previously owned by state it's called nationalization. It would be privatization if they sold it to some private company.
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July 28, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
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"Privatization" today rather means the state puts services they formerly managed into the hands of privileged monopolies, without lowering taxes... yup, it's practically fascism.

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July 28, 2013, 09:46:21 AM
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Thread is FUD.

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...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

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July 28, 2013, 10:49:09 AM
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Thread is FUD.

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...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

And then they passsed a law which forbids you from collecting sunlight without connecting it to the grid... Tongue

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July 28, 2013, 10:56:18 AM
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 Smiley You really understand political strategies.

Thread is FUD.

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...levies a toll on electricity generated and injected to the line.

As a producer you just have to pay to use (and fuck up) the national power grid, nothing to do with collecting sunlight 'an sich' and for your own use.

And then they passsed a law which forbids you from collecting sunlight without connecting it to the grid... Tongue

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July 28, 2013, 10:59:36 AM
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Does anyone have a reference to this alleged fine for private use? What I've heard is that the Spanish government has slashed subsidies for ("feed-in tariffs") for solar energy. They may also have imposed fines, but I haven't found any references for that. In any event, privatisation is not the correct word for imposing fines.

ROI is not a verb, the term you're looking for is 'to break even'.
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July 29, 2013, 12:47:32 AM
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original source comes from here: http://elpais.cr/frontend/noticia_detalle/6/83700

El País is the largest news publication in the Spanish speaking world afaik

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July 29, 2013, 11:01:34 AM
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That's the Costa Rican El Pais, I don't know if it's related to the Spanish one.

ROI is not a verb, the term you're looking for is 'to break even'.
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July 31, 2013, 05:15:02 PM
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Nationalize, rather.
This has nothing to do with legitimate homesteading principle.

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July 31, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
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There was once a "daylight tax" in Britain:

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A 'window tax' was first introduced in 1696. It was seen by some as a tax on light and air; but despite its unpopularity, it was not abolished until 1851. Because houses with more than a certain number of windows were liable to be taxed, house owners often, reluctantly, blocked up windows, and there was a tendency to include fewer windows when new houses were built.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citizenship/rise_parliament/docs/window_tax.htm


I know several local taxes include a rain tax.

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August 01, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
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And the insanity continues.

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August 04, 2013, 02:35:49 AM
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just 3 words:
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