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July 13, 2011, 06:49:03 AM
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bitpit is a very good choise! they have the lower stales than any other pool, i think Smiley
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July 15, 2011, 01:34:13 AM
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Deepbit 0's issue resolved.

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July 15, 2011, 01:42:45 AM
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wow , so bitcoin.lc stole yalls money and he calls yall the thieves huh.

Did he ban hopping in his TOS anywhere?

I guess it isnt a lot because yall dont seem to have pitchforks out, but thats a really shitty dude. I dont have a problem with him banning yall, that is his right but he should pay for work done unless he specifically said this would happen in his TOS, which doesnt sound like the case.

If it was any money at all, I would have a lawsuit against him.

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July 15, 2011, 05:00:04 AM
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yeap deepbit is working again, but efficiency is only 0.8 Sad

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July 15, 2011, 02:01:47 PM
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wow , so bitcoin.lc stole yalls money and he calls yall the thieves huh.
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He relented.



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July 15, 2011, 07:46:13 PM
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Did a pool get dropped from the stats? My total shares decreased by about 20%.
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July 15, 2011, 08:11:25 PM
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Did a pool get dropped from the stats? My total shares decreased by about 20%.

All the pools are still in the stats. There was a display bug or something for 'total number of shares'; it didn't match the number of shares actually in the database.  Now, it's being calculated differently and it does match.

yeap deepbit is working again, but efficiency is only 0.8 Sad
You must've just been mining on deepbit at unlucky times.  Long-term, deepbit efficiency is ~1.2

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July 15, 2011, 09:29:46 PM
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So, whats the latest news on multiclone?
Anything needed for updates? Any new planned updates?
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July 15, 2011, 11:06:09 PM
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I decided to try this out today and so far it looks as if it's working just fine. I understand the basic premise of pool hopping, but I'm not sure what the stats are telling me exactly. This line for example:

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136461 Fri Jul 15 21:20:24 2011 175 352.899 pending

I read this as: For block 136461 (round is block, right?), I submitted 175 shares to this particular pool at the given time. But what's utility, earned and efficiency?

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July 16, 2011, 01:42:49 AM
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Hey nick5429,

Any update on the 'pendings' from bitcoins-lc and btc-mine? No rush, I know you'll get to it,just wanted to make sure it was still in the pipeline - I've got about 16000 pending from bitcoinslc and btc-mine.

Cheers mate.

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July 16, 2011, 10:20:56 AM
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Something is wrong with the pool.

Calculate your rates
(e. g.: http://btcserv.net/bitcoin/mining-calculator/) and compare it to you payouts. Take open shares in account, just take the payed once. You will see cleary, that you way apart from your "should-be" earings!

I tried my miners with different addresses the last days, looked for the time and tried normal pools. Working on multiclone just make me lose btc. Check it by yourself and post your comments!

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July 16, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
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make sure you read a bit more next time  Wink

Actually, make sure *you* do read a bit more of his question next time. Wink

Utility: That's the expected value of the submitted shares. For example, if you submitted 100 shares to a pool, and their utility is 300, this means that multipool expects to get 3x the reward you would get with a 100% fair reward system. Of course, this is not a promise, just an expectation. Those shares could just as well only get you 0.5x what you should get with a 100% fair system if the pool gets unlucky.
Earned: This is what the pool actually paid to multipool for your submitted shares after the block was solved. (Thus it can only be calculated after a block was solved and the pool makes the stats public.)
Efficiency: This is >1 if you earned more than a 100% fair system would pay, and <1 if you got less than that. If it is 2, you earned twice as much. This should on average be the same as "utility/shares" (/ -> divided by), sometimes better and sometimes worse. If multipool has wrong calculations for utility, the average might be wrong.

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July 16, 2011, 05:51:53 PM
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when does this thing pay it;s users?

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July 16, 2011, 05:54:52 PM
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every monday.
but only collected (means which have been withdrawn from pools) payments are payed.
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July 16, 2011, 07:39:22 PM
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Did we get a rewards function for one of the pools? If so, thanks nick!

I think the efficiency is listed on the very top of the page takes into account all shares, pending or not, rewards function or not. If you are a good bit above 1, then it's worth your time.
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July 16, 2011, 07:54:05 PM
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Hey nick5429,

Any update on the 'pendings' from bitcoins-lc and btc-mine? No rush, I know you'll get to it,just wanted to make sure it was still in the pipeline - I've got about 16000 pending from bitcoinslc and btc-mine.

Cheers mate.

I fixed btcmine; your pending there should only be from the last day.  If this is not the case, please let me know your address and I'll look.

bitcoinslc is still on my to do list. Things are hectic at my real job this month, but I'll try to get it done some time.

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July 16, 2011, 08:32:18 PM
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Something is wrong with the pool.

Calculate your rates
(e. g.: http://btcserv.net/bitcoin/mining-calculator/) and compare it to you payouts. Take open shares in account, just take the payed once. You will see cleary, that you way apart from your "should-be" earings!

I tried my miners with different addresses the last days, looked for the time and tried normal pools. Working on multiclone just make me lose btc. Check it by yourself and post your comments!

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Mike

I'm not even sure what you're trying to imply, but here's my response:

One of my miners runs at 253 MHash = 0.16280872 ฿/day by that calculator (ideal, perfect world, no disconnects, no invalid shares, no reboots, no pool fees, no issue with bitcoinpool having all invalid blocks for several days, etc. Realistically, at least 5% lower)

The last payment was 7/11 at 22:30.  Multipool's stats are updated through approx 7/16 01:00 for most pools right now = 4 days 2 hours of confirmed mining time.
(4*24+2)/24 *  0.16924384 = 0.664802273 earned BTC in a perfect world

If I made another payout right now, that address would receive 0.78248132 BTC from multipool.

Absolute efficiency in terms of earned BTC for that time period: 1.177

Better than a kick in the head? You bet.

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July 16, 2011, 10:53:30 PM
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Actually, make sure *you* do read a bit more of his question next time. Wink

Utility: That's the expected value of the submitted shares. For example, if you submitted 100 shares to a pool, and their utility is 300, this means that multipool expects to get 3x the reward you would get with a 100% fair reward system. Of course, this is not a promise, just an expectation. Those shares could just as well only get you 0.5x what you should get with a 100% fair system if the pool gets unlucky.
Earned: This is what the pool actually paid to multipool for your submitted shares after the block was solved. (Thus it can only be calculated after a block was solved and the pool makes the stats public.)
Efficiency: This is >1 if you earned more than a 100% fair system would pay, and <1 if you got less than that. If it is 2, you earned twice as much. This should on average be the same as "utility/shares" (/ -> divided by), sometimes better and sometimes worse. If multipool has wrong calculations for utility, the average might be wrong.
Thanks. Exactly the info I was looking for.

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July 17, 2011, 06:01:08 PM
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when to expect next payment?
once per week?

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July 17, 2011, 06:50:20 PM
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I just recently asked.

every monday.

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