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Genernal water coolling solution for AntMiner S9 S7 D3 L3+ , Pangolin M3 , Frozen and Quiet!

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zz24g.png
Unplug the power core

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzhgs.png
Unplug the power core

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzgUS.png
Remove screws from fan

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzWCQ.png
Unscrew the screws from baffle

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzf3j.png
Unscrew screws from the fan on the other side

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zz4vn.png
Unscrew screws from baffle too.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzTbV.png
Take out hash boards.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzIuq.png
Prepare 6 M6*190 bolts, and screw 1 nut on end of each bolt.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzoD0.png
Assemble the baffle plate and bolts as shown.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzHET.png
Place a water block on the baffle plate,

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzq5F.png
According to the size of hash board tailor thermal transfer tape to suitable size

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzj29.png
Strip off the plastic film from one side of the thermal transfer tape

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzbUU.png
Paste the thermal transfer tape to hash board, then strip off plastic film from other side.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzOC4.png
Fist step is done. It will looks like this picture.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzvvR.png
Place the finished hash board on the water block.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSSDx.png
Paste thermal transfer tape on the other side of the hash board as the above steps.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/zzzK1.png
Attention! Thermal transfer tape pasted on the place circled with red mark, just need to strip off one side  film, pls keep the film on the other side.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSpb6.png
That is how it looks when the first hash board is done.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSCVK.png
Place the second water block!

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSPUO.png
Paste thermal transfer tape on the second hash board just as the first one.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSkPe.png
As the fist one, at the circled place just strip off one side film from the thermal transfer tape and keep the other one.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSA8H.png
Place the third water block.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSE2d.png
Place the third hash board after pasted the thermal transfer tape.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSeKI.png
As the two ahead, strip off film from one side, and keep the other side.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSVxA.png
Place the fourth water block.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSmrt.png
Place last the baffle plate.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSnqP.png
Screw on 6 M6 nuts.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSMa8.png
Screw as tight as possible.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSS1Pg.png
Screw as tight as possible.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSKVf.png
Link the pipe as shown in the picture. (In winter the pipe would be hard, this work maybe is not easy to do. Don’t worry, dip the pipe to hot water for seconds things would be better)

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSQIS.png
Link the 2 fans, fan cover, wind scooper together with M4×90 screw and M4 nuts. (this time we used 2 ultra-quiet low speed fans to replace the original violent fans. Contact me, if you need Ultra-quiet fan.)

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSS3GQ.png
Fix them to the water block with M4*6 screw.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSGxs.png
Remove the PCB board as shown in the photo.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSS82j.png
Then take down the metal shell of PCB board. You can use plier to knock it out, if it is not easy to take down.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSStrq.png
Place the PCB Board into metal shell. Paste 2 small pieces of 3M double side tape on PCB board.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSNq0.png
Pasted a plastic board or hardboard to the back surface of PCB board.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSYMn.png
Plug all kinds of plugs and wires.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSaZV.png
Connect the fan’s plug to extension cord.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSwIU.png
Connect all the red extension cords to pump red cords together. And connect all the black cords together.

https://s1.ax1x.com/2017/12/30/pSSdaT.png
Almost done. Finally power on reset, add liquid, turn on power. Bingo!  

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Sorry for not resuming for so long, recently been busy, put this post to forget : (
Recently I plan to further modified the miner, using the heat for warming the house. Here's a progress picture, and when I finish it all, I'll show you guys more picture.
https://s1.ax1x.com/2018/01/26/pq0vNj.jpg
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December 30, 2017, 04:23:20 PM
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Very cool. Is this yours? Very creative!
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December 31, 2017, 11:48:49 AM
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This is a great idea, how long did it take you?
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January 01, 2018, 04:52:20 AM
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Can you estimate the surface area of the water block that is making contact?
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January 01, 2018, 09:56:11 AM
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Would it leak in the long run?
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January 01, 2018, 09:39:23 PM
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Very interesting post!  Have you been able to do this with any recent miner like a S9 or a 741? 
I think one of the stumbling blocks could be the latest firmware that requires the jet-engine fans they come with.  You would need to figure out how to either fool the machine or replace the fan with something.

Nevertheless - it looks like an interesting project!
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January 01, 2018, 10:24:39 PM
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Did you read the guide and see all the pictures?
This is done with a S9.


@hjelc
Very cool project, thanks for sharing!  Smiley
Are you staff member in the Syscooling company?
Could you share the details where to buy parts needed to setup this kit?

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Did you read the guide and see all the pictures? This is done with a S9.
Sorry, I thought it was a S7 - my mistake.

I looked at it all again and it looks like this reused the existing fans so he did not have to solve the problem of the S9 expecting the factory fans to be there.
I will read more carefully next time, sorry.
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January 03, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
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Nice Project.  Could you help us out a bit?

1) What is the model of water pump you're using?

2) Looks like custom water block solution.  Is it replicable for us?  How?  Can we buy them?

3) What is the operating temperature you're achieving?  Can you give us a screenshot?

4) Would love to know how loud the entire rig is.  Surely the water pump makes noise, and the fans on the radiator make noise as well?

Looks like a great project, but I'd like to see the real results for "Frozen & Quiet."  If it's true, I'd be the first one to buy 8 miners worth!  It's either that, or I'm dunking them in mineral oil with a radiator.  I can't seem to find anyone anywhere who's successfully cooled 8+ Antminer S9's with mineral oil, water cooling, or anything else portable.

I've got free utilities in my apartment and want to find the best way to get this done in a small footprint that's rather contained!
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January 04, 2018, 05:04:43 PM
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That looks like an insane amount of work and money that you will never get back. Its interesting as a proof of concept but completely useless in the real world.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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Not completely useless if it mitigates the heat effectively and is quasi-silent.

All heat mitigation solutions cost money.  But without cost specs and decibel facts, not sure how it stacks up against other cooling methods.
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Not completely useless if it mitigates the heat effectively and is quasi-silent.

All heat mitigation solutions cost money.  But without cost specs and decibel facts, not sure how it stacks up against other cooling methods.

Its an industrial miner, the fans mitigate the heat just fine, sound should not even enter the equation.

You dont buy a Tesla and take it to an off road park.

You shouldnt buy industrial equipment and then run it in a residential environment.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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Not completely useless if it mitigates the heat effectively and is quasi-silent.

All heat mitigation solutions cost money.  But without cost specs and decibel facts, not sure how it stacks up against other cooling methods.
Watercooling is mostly a gimmick for most miners today, they do have a niche but for the most part in their intended industrial environment there's no need for watercooling. Why bother investing additional money in watercooling when aircooling works just fine for 99% of modern miners? Just additional overhead. Most of us know about the Antminer C1 and how it worked- it was the first and last factory-watercooled miner from Bitmain, and for a good reason.
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January 04, 2018, 10:31:49 PM
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As with most concepts, the theory is good, the reality isn't. Water is the mortal enemy of these units. In an industrial setting, this concept is totally impractical and down right fatal to the business if one mistake causes water to get everywhere. Every board that gets touched with water is bricked and your investment is down the toilet. Air flow is how these units were meant to operate.
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As with most concepts, the theory is good, the reality isn't. Water is the mortal enemy of these units. In an industrial setting, this concept is totally impractical and down right fatal to the business if one mistake causes water to get everywhere. Every board that gets touched with water is bricked and your investment is down the toilet. Air flow is how these units were meant to operate.

This is a false claim.

Water cooling is safe when you know how to do it properly.

In Russia they are actually taking advantage of the heat produced by miners, and they have built water cooled Bitfury-based miner (Sunrise series).
So those miners are not only mining btc, but also working as 'water boilers'.
See  RMC  (Russian Miner Coin) for more information about that case.
They have some pictures of the water cooling builds at their Facebook page.

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In Russia they are actually taking advantage of the heat produced by miners, and they have built water cooled Bitfury-based miner (Sunrise series).
So those miners are not only mining btc, but also working as 'water boilers'.
Ja. As I've brought up before, I'd think miners supplying heat for thermal pool spa's would be a great way to go. Beats using only gas or electric as direct heat!

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Water cooling is an excellent way to harvest the heat. You guys are laughing at this meanwhile it's -30 here tonight and I could heat my house with maybe 10-12 s9s. Then just dump the excess heat outside with a PID controlled fan/rad.

The cost you say? Tell that to people around here who have spent $40,000 on geothermal.

But there's no real use in an industrial setting unless you have an actual need for the heat.
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Interesting tinkering project. I am looking more on the lines of something like this on a smaller scale. https://www.ebay.com/itm/immersion-cooling-for-crypto-mining-antminer-S9-D3-L3-less-space-energy/302587984869?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44040%26meid%3D7f7dc65e974b49e6a66c3e9c2e9380ae%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D302583640095&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850
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I dont think it is smart either. One error and water leaks, damaging equipment and is a safety hazard. Dont forget, these things are run 24/7. I juz dont find it smart. The miners are alaays placed closely together. It could be a catastrophe if water leaks everywhere.

However, I am curious, at wat temperatures do they run at?

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In Russia they are actually taking advantage of the heat produced by miners, and they have built water cooled Bitfury-based miner (Sunrise series).
So those miners are not only mining btc, but also working as 'water boilers'.
Ja. As I've brought up before, I'd think miners supplying heat for thermal pool spa's would be a great way to go. Beats using only gas or electric as direct heat!

It would be a really nice project to grab some old Ant C1's, then upgrade them with some Hotmine (Bitfury 16nm) boards and hook them up to a bath tub via a heat exchanger.  Cheesy

Few of those and you could even build a spa resort for people interested in Bitcoin.

If anybody is interested, you are free to use this as a business idea.  Grin

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In Russia they are actually taking advantage of the heat produced by miners, and they have built water cooled Bitfury-based miner (Sunrise series).
So those miners are not only mining btc, but also working as 'water boilers'.
Ja. As I've brought up before, I'd think miners supplying heat for thermal pool spa's would be a great way to go. Beats using only gas or electric as direct heat!

It would be a really nice project to grab some old Ant C1's, then upgrade them with some Hotmine (Bitfury 16nm) boards and hook them up to a bath tub via a heat exchanger.  Cheesy

Few of those and you could even build a spa resort for people interested in Bitcoin.

If anybody is interested, you are free to use this as a business idea.  Grin

And if a mistake occurs, the customer gets electrocuted lol?? Yes, it is unlikely to occur but lapses do occur. It will be ok to do in a home setting I guess but laws in a commercial setting would prevent water being too close to electricity I would think. I suspect it wont pass safety standards in my country though. Juz my 2 cents thoughts anyways, not tryin to be disagreeable Smiley

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January 06, 2018, 01:22:41 PM
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That was mean't as a joke.

And you also might want to learn what is a heat exchanger.

The system would not be connected to a bath tub directly, but via a heat exchanger.

And I still stand at my point that water cooling is safe when you know what you are doing.


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That was mean't as a joke.

And you also might want to learn what is a heat exchanger.

The system would not be connected to a bath tub directly, but via a heat exchanger.

And I still stand at my point that water cooling is safe when you know what you are doing.



Oh I see lol.  Hmmm I go look it up.

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Any update to this? Where can you get these water blocks and how much?
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January 26, 2018, 07:07:18 AM
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Very cool. Is this yours? Very creative!
Thanks, yes, I finished it.
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This is a great idea, how long did it take you?
2 hours, Those photos were took while installation, so they were posted slowly.
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Would it leak in the long run?
7 * 24 run for a month, did not found leaks yet, in fact security issues are easy to solve, you can choose non-conductive liquid
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@lrowland21093
Did you read the guide and see all the pictures?
This is done with a S9.


@hjelc
Very cool project, thanks for sharing!  Smiley
Are you staff member in the Syscooling company?
Could you share the details where to buy parts needed to setup this kit?
Thanks for your attention, you can contact syscooling at https://syscooling.en.alibaba.com/
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Nice Project.  Could you help us out a bit?

1) What is the model of water pump you're using?

2) Looks like custom water block solution.  Is it replicable for us?  How?  Can we buy them?

3) What is the operating temperature you're achieving?  Can you give us a screenshot?

4) Would love to know how loud the entire rig is.  Surely the water pump makes noise, and the fans on the radiator make noise as well?

Looks like a great project, but I'd like to see the real results for "Frozen & Quiet."  If it's true, I'd be the first one to buy 8 miners worth!  It's either that, or I'm dunking them in mineral oil with a radiator.  I can't seem to find anyone anywhere who's successfully cooled 8+ Antminer S9's with mineral oil, water cooling, or anything else portable.

I've got free utilities in my apartment and want to find the best way to get this done in a small footprint that's rather contained!
I'm very sorry to respond to you so long, always been busy recently, put this post to forget Sad
1 . I use a small centrifugal pump, the model is SC-750, syscooling products
2 . You can contact syscooling at https://syscooling.en.alibaba.com/
3 . screenshot here https://s1.ax1x.com/2018/01/26/pq0jEQ.png
4 . SC-750 pumps and low-speed fans on the radiator are all very quiet and I think they are negligible; the miner fans speed dropped to 700 and 1300 RPM, the noise goes down too.
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January 26, 2018, 08:08:49 AM
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That looks like an insane amount of work and money that you will never get back. Its interesting as a proof of concept but completely useless in the real world.
We have three ideas:
1.Reduce machine noise and temperature
2.improve the life of mining machine
3.Use the heat transferred to do something else
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Water cooling is an excellent way to harvest the heat. You guys are laughing at this meanwhile it's -30 here tonight and I could heat my house with maybe 10-12 s9s. Then just dump the excess heat outside with a PID controlled fan/rad.

The cost you say? Tell that to people around here who have spent $40,000 on geothermal.

But there's no real use in an industrial setting unless you have an actual need for the heat.
You are right, I live in the north, the winter is very cold Sad
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January 26, 2018, 08:36:13 AM
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This is also a good way to dissipate heat, maybe I would make a study of it.
mainly aspects are cooling oil and dust-free environment.
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I dont think it is smart either. One error and water leaks, damaging equipment and is a safety hazard. Dont forget, these things are run 24/7. I juz dont find it smart. The miners are alaays placed closely together. It could be a catastrophe if water leaks everywhere.

However, I am curious, at wat temperatures do they run at?
Your question is similar with a friends above, roll up to have a look.
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In Russia they are actually taking advantage of the heat produced by miners, and they have built water cooled Bitfury-based miner (Sunrise series).
So those miners are not only mining btc, but also working as 'water boilers'.
Ja. As I've brought up before, I'd think miners supplying heat for thermal pool spa's would be a great way to go. Beats using only gas or electric as direct heat!

It would be a really nice project to grab some old Ant C1's, then upgrade them with some Hotmine (Bitfury 16nm) boards and hook them up to a bath tub via a heat exchanger.  Cheesy

Few of those and you could even build a spa resort for people interested in Bitcoin.

If anybody is interested, you are free to use this as a business idea.  Grin
You are really a funny guy Smiley
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Any update to this? Where can you get these water blocks and how much?
I'm very sorry to respond to you so long, has been busy recently, put this post to forget Sad
Reply to everyone today, if you have any goode ideas pls tell me, i will try to do it.
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