Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[philipma1957]

Thread Six is here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2138550.0

Forgot to mod thread 5 so I shut it down.
Here is a link to it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2019146.0










A how to do one 30 amp 240 volt circuit in the USA  it will allow for 24/7/365 runtime of about  5280 watts



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2192299.msg22020934#msg22020934













s(bf)gminer -o stratum+tcp://tbdice.org:13333 -u LWdix5Rxpqmzk6w7xjZjq7Vvm9TBquDYH8 -p diff_256:D5TajjV9SXL7uWN97L5K8yUrjRcE1UrTtX -S MLD:all --set MLD:clock=756
pause






moonlander

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2141261.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420357.0


Hey if you want to see the spotswood build on you tube

links are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feXukc1d39Y




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIG9oebnW0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIxWgv-rsuE


parts for it:

frame from spotswood

A) rosewill tokamak 1500 watt titanium psu --------------- 1 unit
B) msi seahawk 1080ti--------------------------------------- 3 units
C) evga 1070 ti hybrid---------------------------------------- 4 units
D) asus 1050 ti ----------------------------------------------- 1 unit
E) silverstone 8 pin pcie extenders -------------------------- 4 pieces
F) cable matters 6 pin pcie extenders ----------------------- 2 sets of 2 total of 4.
G) velcro ties -------------------------------------------------- 1 pack of 50
H) fan Splitter ------------------------------------------------- 1 set of 2

intel g3930 ------------------------------------------------ 1 unit
samsung ddr4 4gb sodimm ------------------------------ 1 unit

A)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182384
B)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137126
C)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487390
D)  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126170
E)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B46XKJW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?
F)   https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DV1Z4EQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?
G)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8T4L07/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?
H)  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GNT8MEM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?


note newegg is out of stock for the g3930
and for the ram  so I listed 3rd party below

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5879236
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117748
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIACWT5AT9945


if you want riser less boards read below.

Those Chinese boards look fantastic. I am about to place an order from alibaba for some. What processor is everyone using on the 8+4 GPU motherboard?

My plan is to have 1070ti GPU's on them with the hybrid water cooling from EVGA.

if you do smos  you can use a g4400

http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80662g4400~7ITEP46W.htm


if you do windows I say go for  more
http://www.provantage.com/intel-bx80677i57400t~7ITEP5R5.htm


ram  

smos/linux a 4gb is good
  
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232145&cm_re=4gb_sodimm_ddr4-_-20-232-145-_-Product



windows 10 an 8 gb is better


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232153&cm_re=8gb_sodimm_ddr4-_-20-232-153-_-Product


I gave my  aliababa link out in this thread.

about 179  shipped to usa using paypal  for 1 sample

about 1430 - 1500 shipped to usa using paypal for a 10 pack


tell sidonia I pointed you to her.  philip  from howell new jersey 07731

Phil,
Your frame for the Onda 250 board is on its way to you.

Can I order one of these?

contact spots wood  he has them mention this thread.

I will not be ordering anymore boards for sale .

I made 8 to 10 dollars profit on each onda b250 sold .

I ordered 21
and sold 15 kept 6.

so about 140-150 profit I had 1 rma for 170 so I lost  around 20 or 30 dollars doing this.

I let buyer keep the dead board as was the only one  that I shipped outside the USA.


My source on alibaba Is :

Sidonia Huang

2017-12-09 07:12


Dear Philip,
 
The 12*PCIE version mining board will be ready around 15th,December
 
Pls kindly check how many pcs you need?
 
Best regards
 
Sidonia

_____________________________________________
______________________________________________

Here is the pricing she did for me:

1 sample is about 179 to the usa using paypal
a 10 pack is about 1500 to the usa using paypal


https://leiqing.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.8443308.0.0.88Krq1

eight card  no cpu  takes i3 6100   i3 7100  and celerons  ddr4L sodimm

https://leiqing.en.alibaba.com/product/60707942149-803390961/China_New_Top_Sell_Bitcoins_Mining_Motherboard_With_12_PCIE_Ports_B250_Chipset_Intel_Manufacturer.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.89.3.36b10622hDun4L


six card with cpu need ddr3L sodimm ram

https://leiqing.en.alibaba.com/product/60731016343-805284220/New_Products_2018_Intel_J1800_Mining_Motherboard_6_PCIE_BTC_VGA_HD_Graphics_Card.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.prewdfa4cf.2.55004ff4ZWs7rt

https://blockchain.info/address/1NmxvP6x9qu6fVv4pEWwAZiisM8SEqvPdU

MWxsXgQXomddd4kjpGynNUhaTeDpy4QZLi

DRBTagQosBknh8ERbueWqBYmUCnKmPR3xR

--server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --port 3357 --user 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.omenIra2 --pass x

--server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --port 3357 --user 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.msi2 --pass x
--server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --port 3357 --user 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.spotswood --pass x
--server equihash.usa.nicehash.com --port 3357 --user 3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.omenIra1 --pass x

-uri stratum://3QPFEdX8rtXHoVZHct5eUbp7AK1t1vRMfL.omenIra1@equihash.usa.nicehash.com --port 3357


-uri stratum://t1Zcashaddressofyours.$rigName@zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6666



maxgputemp 70
globalminer ccminer
ccminer=flags -a x16r -u RJznVfBtZcPwkT2i9kBkJtgPrHfKVqn264 -i 21 -p x
proxywallet RJznVfBtZcPwkT2i9kBkJtgPrHfKVqn264
proxypool1 ravenminer.com:3366
stratumproxy enabled




maxgputemp 70
globalminer ccminer
ccminer=flags -a x16r -u -i 19 -p x
proxywallet RTThoGzWY2G9XryuNV2bgPW9SCspnFAdwj
proxypool1 ravenminer.com:3366
stratumproxy enabled
globalpower 70

globalminer ccminer
flags -a x16r -s 1
stratumproxy enabled
proxywallet RTThoGzWY2G9XryuNV2bgPW9SCspnFAdwj
proxypool1 stratum.threeeyed.info:3333
globalcore 1700
globalmem 400
globalpowertune 70


-a x16r -o stratum+tcp://rvn.suprnova.cc:6667 -u philipma1957new.omen2 -p x d=16 -i 19




edf2d63cdf0b6275ead22c9e6d66aa8ea31dc0ccb367fad2e7c08a25

https://eggpool.net/index.php?miner=3072be2a2d244beb7426b671780216cb90df21fa8d092861f43022dc&action=miner&submit=Show

[1714051139]

1714051139

[philipma1957]

From last thread

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

Does anyone mine with neoscrypt? I would appreciate any advice on OC.

Never did neoscrypt.


UrsaUrsa quoted below from last thread

"As far as I know it's a memory heavy algorithm."





Oh I am selling some older s-9's   and a T-9

they are a client's  not mine or buysolar

as is but tested and do work.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2674029.0   three 2 boards units


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2673467.0  one full 3 board unit.

I have some interest in 1 s-9 and 1 t-9

set a wide range of freq older firmware was not stable at 600 or 550 but good at 525



locked at freq 550





t-9

autotune

[UrsaUrsa]

From last thread

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

Does anyone mine with neoscrypt? I would appreciate any advice on OC.

Never did neoscrypt.

I responded in the wrong thread! How come you have never mined any neosh*tcoin ? Some of them do shoot up to incredible heights after initially being cheap and low difficulty. I dedicated one rig to these coins and a 2 out of 3 coins do make it big. I think neo is memory heavy, I do have like +400 on my 1070s.

[MagicSmoker]

I responded in the wrong thread! How come you have never mined any neosh*tcoin ? Some of them do shoot up to incredible heights after initially being cheap and low difficulty. I dedicated one rig to these coins and a 2 out of 3 coins do make it big. I think neo is memory heavy, I do have like +400 on my 1070s.

I'm pretty new at this, but I found that the same OC settings for Equihash work well for Neoscrypt, too.

[vapourminer]

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

equihash does benefit from higher clocks, at least on my nvidias with dstm

[dlezama]

Happy new year everybody! Let's hope 2018 is full of mined coins!

[QuintLeo]

Neoscrypt is widely reported to be "memory heavy" like ethhash and cryptonight.

Cryptonight currently seems to be mostly mined with Cast or Stak-XMR - ccminer and Claymore have both fallen noticeably behind.
Equihash - add BMiner
Ethhash - I don't think anyone has used ethminer for a LONG time, mostly Claymore and some diehard Genoil fans, though there is a new "phoenix" miner out for Windows that I've not been able to check out yet.
Qubit - Baikal ASIC for over a year now.
I think the Baikal units also support Groetsl or Skein, possibly both, on their most recent design.
X11 - MULTIPLE folks making ASIC for over a year now, including Baikal, Pinidea, IBeLink, Bitmain, and Innosilicon
Scrypt - MULTIPLE folks making ASIC for 4+ years now, currently Innosilicon, Bitmain, and BW.com

Equihash - depends on the card to at least SOME degree, and sometimes different models of the same GPU work differently depending on where the FACTORY CLOCKS are set.
 Usually wants some OC on both core and memory, but I've got several 1070 cards that don't see ANY benefit to memory OC on that algorithm.



 Just got around to my daily check on Newegg - and OUCH, RX570/580 pricing just went through the roof and is now obviously pushing NVidia pricing.
 ONE model under $400 (yesterday still had a couple under $300) and 1070 pricing pushed WELL into 1070 ti pricing on the very FEW available cards for EITHER side.

[MagicSmoker]

...
Ethhash - I don't think anyone has used ethminer for a LONG time, mostly Claymore and some diehard Genoil fans, though there is a new "phoenix" miner out for Windows that I've not been able to check out yet.
...

Hmm, I just wrote about my positive experience running Ethminer 0.12.0 compared to Claymore 10.2 in another thread. Claymore *reports* a higher hashrate to me, sure, but I seem to actually earn more using Ethminer... I admit my experience is very limited, however, so I may have to revisit this comparison.

[thedue]

Phil I´m following your threads from the beginning, thanks man!

By now, what is the best option for a mainboard for a non riser setup (ATX mb... no Onda and stuff) that fits with at least 3 GPUs of the same kind (no katana e.g.) ?!

[QuintLeo]

Phil I´m following your threads from the beginning, thanks man!

By now, what is the best option for a mainboard for a non riser setup (ATX mb... no Onda and stuff) that fits with at least 3 GPUs of the same kind (no katana e.g.) ?!

 No current motherboard I am aware of has the 1-4-7 slot spacing to do what you want to do and have fairly good cooling to all cards without going to rather expen$ive "5+ slot" boards - and very few of THOSE put a 16-bit slot in that #1 position.

 When you start looking at paying $300 ballpark AND UP for the motherboard, you quickly start looking at other options.

[philipma1957]

Phil I´m following your threads from the beginning, thanks man!

By now, what is the best option for a mainboard for a non riser setup (ATX mb... no Onda and stuff) that fits with at least 3 GPUs of the same kind (no katana e.g.) ?!

okay  you  could use a biostar z170


I have some used ones.

slot 1   full sized 1080 ti.

slot 2 skip

slot 3 full sized 1080 ti


slot 4 a short  zotac 1070 mini

some where some places I have in the threads a three card build like that.

uses about 500 watts  and a usb 3 stick for smos  if you like smos

vodka has a  build of it on his youtube channel


let me go to imager look for a picture.

here is a three expanded to a 5 with 2 risers added





here it is as a three slot only

[timeshifter]

I was going to email Letine.com to get a riserless motherboard.  Looks like they only have the v1 Onda on their site

http://letine.com/bitebizhuban/12-channel-bitcoin-mining-motherboard-manufacturer.html

(they also show the six slot but I'm not interested in that)

I'm inclined to go with the v2 of the Onda 8 slot board, do you think they have them?  Recommend a good source for them if they don't?

[philipma1957]

I was going to email Letine.com to get a riserless motherboard.  Looks like they only have the v1 Onda on their site

http://letine.com/bitebizhuban/12-channel-bitcoin-mining-motherboard-manufacturer.html

(they also show the six slot but I'm not interested in that)

I'm inclined to go with the v2 of the Onda 8 slot board, do you think they have them?  Recommend a good source for them if they don't?

letine has the six slot with a cpu

letine has the 8 slot + 4 riser with no cpu

they do not have the v2  8 slot  b250  as of the order I placed on Saturday.  That v2  board has sold out just about everywhere.

[timeshifter]

I was going to email Letine.com to get a riserless motherboard.  Looks like they only have the v1 Onda on their site

http://letine.com/bitebizhuban/12-channel-bitcoin-mining-motherboard-manufacturer.html

(they also show the six slot but I'm not interested in that)

I'm inclined to go with the v2 of the Onda 8 slot board, do you think they have them?  Recommend a good source for them if they don't?

letine has the six slot with a cpu

letine has the 8 slot + 4 riser with no cpu

they do not have the v2  8 slot  b250  as of the order I placed on Saturday.  That v2  board has sold out just about everywhere.

Would I be correct in assuming that the v1 boards will be around until they sell out then there'll only be v2 boards?

Also, to be clear, Onda is the actual manufacturer?  No else makes this board, it's just available through different resellers (who all appear to be in China)?

[Elder III]

I responded in the wrong thread! How come you have never mined any neosh*tcoin ? Some of them do shoot up to incredible heights after initially being cheap and low difficulty. I dedicated one rig to these coins and a 2 out of 3 coins do make it big. I think neo is memory heavy, I do have like +400 on my 1070s.

I'm pretty new at this, but I found that the same OC settings for Equihash work well for Neoscrypt, too.

If you're using GTX 1080s or 1080 Ti for Neoscrypt you should test out the new hsrminer for neoscrypt by Palgin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2565979.0   --- it does a fair bit better then ccminer or even the Klaust version of ccminer for the 1080 series.  It's been stable for the few days I have tested it.

[rs1x]

my conspiracy theory on the card shortage: profits are high and the miners who started in March, April, May of 2017, just ROI'd their gear, and with the coin prices high, are potentially doubling down on more gear.

[vapourminer]

my conspiracy theory on the card shortage: profits are high and the miners who started in March, April, May of 2017, just ROI'd their gear, and with the coin prices high, are potentially doubling down on more gear.

or they bought em up to claim the equipment cost on 2017 taxes?

[dlezama]

my conspiracy theory on the card shortage: profits are high and the miners who started in March, April, May of 2017, just ROI'd their gear, and with the coin prices high, are potentially doubling down on more gear.

Agreed. No conspiracy IMHO, just market forces Coins going up like crazy put enough money in miners pockets for them to invest in more equipment. Also short term the profits look crazy high (what soon gets over-corrected) so buying new hardware appears to be a really good investment. You also have the FOMO go to an extreme (more like POMO for Panic or Paranoia) My mom want so buy GPUs, and her cat too.

If you were paying attention to AMD and Nvidia forecasts, they predicted (always so wise of them) mining demand on hardware going down for this year. I imagine they made production decisions based on those forecasts...

As I said, I think this will over-correct soon. A lot of hardware will be available at a low price, and people that got burned will be too fearful to buy. I'll be waiting with my checkbook open

[philipma1957]

my conspiracy theory on the card shortage: profits are high and the miners who started in March, April, May of 2017, just ROI'd their gear, and with the coin prices high, are potentially doubling down on more gear.

or they bought em up to claim the equipment cost on 2017 taxes?

 

I resell much of my gear and file a schedule c

last year  2016 ending inventory for sales was 10-11k
the year  2017 ending inventory for sales was more then 45k

[QuintLeo]

my conspiracy theory on the card shortage: profits are high and the miners who started in March, April, May of 2017, just ROI'd their gear, and with the coin prices high, are potentially doubling down on more gear.

 Everything I bought that far back ROIed months ago.

 I'd go with the "prices JUMPED 2-3x in late December and it took time for miners to decide the prices were going to hang around long enough to be WORTH building more rigs for" theory.

 The mining theory though doesn't account for the shortage and pricing on the 1080 and 1080 ti - SOME of the pricing on those is probably "ram price jump" but the SHORTAGE of cards I don't think can be blamed on memory pricing.
 1070 ti is a special case - card didn't exist during the previous runup, but between me and Voskcoin and others picking up the theme it's gotten quite popular for EFFICIENT mining.


 Newegg got some of the MSI Blower model 1070 ti cards in - limit 1 though - at a SANE price.
 Mine is on order - I wanted to try some of the other "single-8pin" cards anyway, though I'd have prefered the ASUS blower card as my next "try it out" card - as I'm still not 100% sure the MSI uses a ball-bearing blower.
 Their OTHER cards are ball bearing though, so I'm willing to risk it ONCE.
 Transaction went through without issue - I'm inclined to think my issue with the previous transaction was due to the "holiday Bitcoin backlog" + crazy-high transaction fee caused some sort of issue.

 Newegg also had ONE Sapphire Nitro design (570 I think) in stock at under $300 - didn't notice the limit though offhand - and one other RX card around $300, Powercolor IIRC.
 Rest were ALL $389 and up.

 At the time AMD and Nvidia made their forecast, they made sense - coin prices had been flat for months, demand was dropping down to near "pre-surge" levels.
 Then their forecasts got borked by ANOTHER unexpected price jump....

 I was doing some wide reading today, trying to figure Volta - and as of right now I'm starting to think the first "consumer" Volta GPU(s) might get announced in late March at that Nvidia "confrence" they have annually - been a few years since they introduced a new line at that, but the timeing seems to fit a LOT of other indicators.
 I wouldn't bet on immediate availability though - probably depends on how fast Samsung, Micron, and "whoever else" gets GDDR 6 production ramped up.
 I DO expect the "consumer" cards to be GDDR 6 not HDM2 though.