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March 17, 2018, 08:51:50 PM
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Does anyone in this experienced group know if it realistically possible that equihash can be "asiced" in the near future? I am familiar with the argument that anything can be with time, but don't know the technical details well enough to judge how close the zec devs came to long term asic resistance with equihash.


Massive amounts or RAM required makes it pretty resistant.
It's also generally strongly limited by memory access.
Really? You don't need a lot of ram to mine equihash, do you?
Neither is it an algo that profits massively from gddr/hbm speed (nor latency) from what I have experienced?...

I was confused, keep thinking equihash not ethash.

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March 17, 2018, 08:59:59 PM
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Bitmain is splitting part of its business to Washington State......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3g726QtaM0


Appears to be setting up something in the Walla Walla area - which does NOT have super-low electric rates, poor choice of location IMO.
Can't check the business registration with the State of Washington right now as their system is down for upgrades 'till Monday - but 3'd party sites show the Ant Creek LLC being registered by Jihan (might be a different one, but what are the odds?).


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Bitmain is splitting part of its business to Washington State......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3g726QtaM0


Appears to be setting up something in the Walla Walla area - which does NOT have super-low electric rates, poor choice of location IMO.
Can't check the business registration with the State of Washington right now as their system is down for upgrades 'till Monday - but 3'd party sites show the Ant Creek LLC being registered by Jihan (might be a different one, but what are the odds?).



Dual location in the state of Washington could allow for cheaper rate

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March 18, 2018, 03:34:25 AM
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Kayden, do you have performance for P102-100 in Skein, X17, Lyra2z, Lyra2v2, EQHash and Phi? Eth isn't profitable anymore...
Thanks!


P102 eth performance from my factory source. $700 usd, but have to pre-order now and receive in early May.

...

Seems less efficient in terms of hash/watt compared to P104 which can do 37mh/s at 120w.

This is tempting, but I'm holding off expansion till end of GTC. Next gen just around the corner.

whats the minimum qty for pre-order?

I asked pricing for 80pcs and was quoted $700. It should get slightly cheaper (expensive) if the quantity increases (decreases). Didn't ask for the minimum qty though.

It's good density, but 2x 580s is a better deal imo. It needs to be $600 or lower,  unless resale value is no issue for you then it can be seen as a msrp 1080ti with better eth performance.
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Kayden, do you have performance for P102-100 in Skein, X17, Lyra2z, Lyra2v2, EQHash and Phi? Eth isn't profitable anymore...
Thanks!


P102 eth performance from my factory source. $700 usd, but have to pre-order now and receive in early May.

...

Seems less efficient in terms of hash/watt compared to P104 which can do 37mh/s at 120w.

This is tempting, but I'm holding off expansion till end of GTC. Next gen just around the corner.

whats the minimum qty for pre-order?

I asked pricing for 80pcs and was quoted $700. It should get slightly cheaper (expensive) if the quantity increases (decreases). Didn't ask for the minimum qty though.

It's good density, but 2x 580s is a better deal imo. It needs to be $600 or lower,  unless resale value is no issue for you then it can be seen as a msrp 1080ti with better eth performance.

You could try mining ravencoin, ive been mining it the past week with no cashouts since the market is in a bloodbath at the moment for mining earnings and based on my shares... im doing pretty good, but my hopes are for the value of it to climb... gonna HODL for these coins...

my 1080ti's are averaging 125-140/day currently, which puts it around $2.50/day per card..



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You could try mining ravencoin, ive been mining it the past week with no cashouts since the market is in a bloodbath at the moment for mining earnings and based on my shares... im doing pretty good, but my hopes are for the value of it to climb... gonna HODL for these coins...

my 1080ti's are averaging 125-140/day currently, which puts it around $2.50/day per card..
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March 18, 2018, 10:26:30 PM
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Bitmain is splitting part of its business to Washington State......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3g726QtaM0


Appears to be setting up something in the Walla Walla area - which does NOT have super-low electric rates, poor choice of location IMO.
Can't check the business registration with the State of Washington right now as their system is down for upgrades 'till Monday - but 3'd party sites show the Ant Creek LLC being registered by Jihan (might be a different one, but what are the odds?).


Dual location in the state of Washington could allow for cheaper rate

The article I found suggested they were setting up a farm in Walla Walla - their listed "official contact location" is in a Tacoma area small city, so they're ALREADY dual located as a minimum.

I'd guess they're on a "contract" rate not a standard one - but they're probably still 5 cents more or less per KWH given that the quoted "largest consumption industrial" type rate for that area is somewhat more than 5.




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March 19, 2018, 12:09:11 AM
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Bitmain is splitting part of its business to Washington State......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3g726QtaM0


Appears to be setting up something in the Walla Walla area - which does NOT have super-low electric rates, poor choice of location IMO.
Can't check the business registration with the State of Washington right now as their system is down for upgrades 'till Monday - but 3'd party sites show the Ant Creek LLC being registered by Jihan (might be a different one, but what are the odds?).


Dual location in the state of Washington could allow for cheaper rate

The article I found suggested they were setting up a farm in Walla Walla - their listed "official contact location" is in a Tacoma area small city, so they're ALREADY dual located as a minimum.

I'd guess they're on a "contract" rate not a standard one - but they're probably still 5 cents more or less per KWH given that the quoted "largest consumption industrial" type rate for that area is somewhat more than 5.





Sounds dumb  but 5 cents for them is like 3 cents for a normal farm.

Their cost of gear is really low..  They  have sold s-9's under 1400  my guess is they can ship them  to the USA into their farm at 600 a unit maybe as low as 450 per unit.  That is a huge edge over any mining farm.

They still mine s-7's at hashnest  how many are really there?  with the dump of the V9 miner I would think  every s-7 they have on hashnest is an s-7 in name only. 

They charge 71.44%  for maintenance

on the s-9   they charge  33.11% for maintenace

So they  are robbing a shit of money with zero audits and transparency is non existent in this case.


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March 19, 2018, 12:52:58 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Thats cause a 61 year old guy self mods it. Grin

Damn When I started these threads I was 59.

April 7 2016 was the first of 7 threads.

Been quite the ride.

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 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0







Apr 7 1 card thread started

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.msg14470378#msg14470378


april 9 2016 talk of 2 pc's
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.msg14477378#msg14477378


april 12 2016
2 rigs 55mh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.msg14513671#msg14513671

may 3 2016 3 rigs 145h
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.msg14746285#msg14746285

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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Wall Observer mature?  You have an interesting definition of mature.

What or whom is wall observer ?

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thanks guys, giving a try!
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March 19, 2018, 05:23:36 AM
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I like this thread. Seems to be the only mature thread out of the Mining section.

Reminds me of the Wall Observer in the Bitcoin Speculation section.

Anyways.

For all you guys running the old and trusty R9 290. What is the best undervolt you can get.

I am running some at 0.96Volts at 947/1250 and GPUz says 85 Watts ( from wall most likely double this value)

Anyone manage to get it stable at lower voltages?

Wall Observer mature?  You have an interesting definition of mature.

What or whom is wall observer ?

It's that long thread in the Economics -> Speculation section with 400,000 replies.

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This is how i have felt the last few months....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlrE6LsMhg

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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.



All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.
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Kayden, do you have performance for P102-100 in Skein, X17, Lyra2z, Lyra2v2, EQHash and Phi? Eth isn't profitable anymore...
Thanks!


P102 eth performance from my factory source. $700 usd, but have to pre-order now and receive in early May.

...

Seems less efficient in terms of hash/watt compared to P104 which can do 37mh/s at 120w.

This is tempting, but I'm holding off expansion till end of GTC. Next gen just around the corner.

whats the minimum qty for pre-order?

I asked pricing for 80pcs and was quoted $700. It should get slightly cheaper (expensive) if the quantity increases (decreases). Didn't ask for the minimum qty though.

It's good density, but 2x 580s is a better deal imo. It needs to be $600 or lower,  unless resale value is no issue for you then it can be seen as a msrp 1080ti with better eth performance.

The p102 has 90% of a 1080ti cuda cores, I expect it to be 90% of 1080ti performance in other algos at 90% the power draw. Maybe 95% the performance at equal power draw.

It's just an estimation though, no benchmarks are available for other algos.
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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.

...

All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.

.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

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I like those cases, KaydenC... they do look very slim though. Do you manage to get 6 GPUs plus PSU and cables in there?



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March 19, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
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.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

Totally. Canada I think is slightly cheaper still in terms of electricity, but Estonia has cheaper rent and infrastructure. Their average monthly salary is about 1k euros only, rent is 1.5-2.5 euro per square meter. Additionally in Estonia there's no tax on profits, only on dividends paid. I could keep all the money in the company and buy solar panels or something.

I like those cases, KaydenC... they do look very slim though. Do you manage to get 6 GPUs plus PSU and cables in there?

Actually 8 gpu can fit inside. Here's a pic of the latest version. Plenty of space left



There's an older version with just 4 instead of 7 fan mounts which is much more cramped.



Cable management is very tight for this version, and cables are always in the way of airflow.

The new version is from letine on alibaba. $243 usd for mobo + case with 7 fans. Shipping is $70 or so to malaysia.
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March 19, 2018, 01:51:16 PM
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Farm update. 189 gpus freshly deployed.

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All except 2 rigs are my hosting clients equipment. Mostly 1060s, some 1050tis.

A client is looking to put upwards of $500k into gpu mining with me taking care of the equipment. We are now looking at other countries like canada and estonia. Malaysia's $0.085/kwh is decent but makes sense to strive for cheaper costs.

.... and cooler climate.

All of my group's ASICs farms are in Canada, and they enjoy the 9-month year long cool. Its too bad that almost all of the hosting facilities there are maxed out - probably no thanks to China mining farms. Seems that electricity hikes are also likely...

In reality there is plenty of available power, we are in a surplus situation.  Hydro-Quebec has given a big "fuck you" to bitmain and others - mining farms are leeches, lets be honest - they bring nothing to society.  No jobs.  No expertise, nothing.  Income is shady and moved around the world, so no real net benefit for Quebec if we subsidize their electricity costs.  Which is why we have huge aluminum production facilities - but these make a whole region the size of an European country live - and live well.  So they get 1cent power.  not miners.

Long story short, if you want to mine in Quebec there is plenty of power and opportunity to do so.  you'll pay shy of 10cents all included cad with taxes overall for a business.  In my home its around 7cents all included CAD, service fees, taxes and all.  I have a company here but dont do hosting.  I dont really like the business model of hosting miners, and im really allergic to anything that has "cloud" in proximity to the word "mining".  Im doing nothing after winter ends here til autumn due to career changes but off the top of my head if you have 150k+ worth of miners then it makes sense to rent a place with existing power near Montreal calculating all costs.  below that and fixed costs eat too much.  I could provide half that from stock.  If you are interested im personally thinking about expanding if gpu prices crash down to msrp and lower and will need a new place.  I dont want to sell hosting though I do not have enough capital to finance everything and i really dont feel like mortgaging my house for this lol.  

One of the bigger players here is financed by israel interests and most likely chinese capital.  http://montrealgazette.com/business/crypto-miner-bitfarms-to-invest-250-million-in-sherbrooke-facility
Most projects are exclusively S9 farms.  Dont ask me why though, makes no sense to me.

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