UFC 220: Miocic vs Ngannou Info and Prediction Thread

[tokeweed]

Check the first post of the thread, all the info needed is up and hopefully it helps all of you with your bets.  And not only that, we got some videos up!  Inside the Octagon is def a must watch.  Dan Hardy makes some good breakdowns imo.

Enjoy.  

UFC 220:  Countdown - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr347G5qatM

UFC 220:  Inside the Octagon - Miocic vs Ngannou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBMkeps14Gs

[eaLiTy]

I have already made my bet for UFC and Bellator ,Had a big parlay with Quinton Jackson, Rory MacDonald,Michael Chandler,Aaron Pico,Daniel Cormier and Thomas Almeida to win the fights,these are easy picks and hope we wont see any upsets,I like Stipe Miocic as the underdog and hope he could drag the fight to the third round and tire Ngannou out.

[bbc.reporter]

@eaLiTy. That would be Stipe's plan, but I reckon Francis Ngannou will be ready for it. Francis will barrage and pressure the champion for the whole 2 rounds, and with his speed and his physical strength, we may see him connect 1 punch and knock out Stipe within those rounds.

In any case, we are seeing the beginning of a new era in the heavyweight division.

[tokeweed]

I just saw the weigh ins are up on YT...  I haven't watched it myself but will do as soon as I'm done with this post.    I'm so excited, I think I'm gonna skip it to the final parts.  Lol.

Let's see the confidence level of Miocic and Ngannou during the stare down.

UFC 220:  Official Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQLd9Kj2VI

And in other events, Ferguson and Khabib will be headlining 223 and co main event will be Namajunas vs JJ rematch.  Should be awesome.

[gabmen]

Stipe would need to be smart in this fight to beat ngannou here and definitely he can't stand toe to toe with the guy. A devastating striker that reminds me a little of jds in his hey days. If he can take francis to the ground, i think he has a better chance but if he gets hit good, doesn't matter how good miocic's chin is, he going to sleep

[nydiacaskey01]

Stipe Miocic look smaller compared to Ngannou and looking at the stare downs, Stipe Miocic is always the first one to reach his hand for a hand shake while Ngannou is all business after the hand shake. I think Stipe Miocic is feeling the pressure now on not to be beaten like what happened to Overeem. Odds in Nitrogensports is Miocic +145 while Ngannou -165

[tokeweed]

^ Speaking of odds, this is not about UFC 220, but have you guys checked the lines on Ferguson vs Khabib?  It's interesting, Ferguson is a 2 to 1 underdog.  I think that's way lower than what the line was when they were slated to fight at 206.  The line then was closer to a coin flip...?  Does anyone remember?

[Lionidas]

Stipe Miocic vs. Francis Ngannou is a tough match to pick a winner.

They both are powerhouses and Ngannou is a very fast puncher. He managed to land 17 punches in a little under 9 seconds which I think is a record in UFC punch counts. Atleast in the heavy weight division.

Miocic is fast but he doesn't go in with a fury of punches but is more calculating with where he lands those punches.
So in reality he is a tactical fighter so he is deadly to let the fight go on past 3 rounds.

[Baofeng]

I just saw the weigh ins are up on YT...  I haven't watched it myself but will do as soon as I'm done with this post.    I'm so excited, I think I'm gonna skip it to the final parts.  Lol.

Let's see the confidence level of Miocic and Ngannou during the stare down.

UFC 220:  Official Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQLd9Kj2VI

And in other events, Ferguson and Khabib will be headlining 223 and co main event will be Namajunas vs JJ rematch.  Should be awesome.

It is just me or has anyone notice it, But DC looks old as hell. LOL. But he looks relax though. He has big hurdles to face and its not gonna be easy fight unless he takes down Oezdemir.

Miocic looks tense at the stare down, I'm not saying that he is intimidated by Francis, but I have to agree, his hands are full. Francis has really fast hands, not only that he can punch hard. Don't know what his strategy though, really hard to call this fight.

[notserp]

my pics Stipe Miocic and Volkan Oezdemir

[eaLiTy]

^ Speaking of odds, this is not about UFC 220, but have you guys checked the lines on Ferguson vs Khabib?  It's interesting, Ferguson is a 2 to 1 underdog.  I think that's way lower than what the line was when they were slated to fight at 206.  The line then was closer to a coin flip...?  Does anyone remember?

yeah i understood the lines changed dramatically after Ferguson and Khabib's last matches where Kevin Lee was able to take down Ferguson quite easily and the common sense says that if khabib gets hold of you there is no turning back,you will get smacked in faced the entire round and there is no getting back and that fight showed that Ferguson can be taken down and imagine what Khabib will do if he gets hold of you and so is the reason the lines are way different now

my pics Stipe Miocic and Volkan Oezdemir

I think Stipe is a good pick but i do not want to see Oezdemir winning as i will be loosing a hell lot of money with my parlay i wagged  ,i really do think that Cormier is under estimating Volkan's power and i am afraid that would end up Cormier being defeated but i really hope he does what he knows,to wrestle Volkan rather than standing up.

[btc_angela]

WTF? How come he is the underdog?

It's this some sort of promoting or hyping this fight?  Although Francis Ngannou KO Overeem, and has a KO power, but we all know that Miocic is the champ and has face tougher opponents in the past and also on a roll of his own.

Let's see, I leaning towards Miocic and I'm sure that he will be ready and have a better plans on how to avoid the KO punches on Francis Ngannou, or maybe takes him to the ground.

This is what I'm talking about!!!!

That's why I found it surprising that he is the underdog. Francis has only one thing to offer, his one KO punch.

All judges scored 50-44 for Stipe, Good win and "still" the HW champ.

And thank you, time to withdraw my winnings...

[Lionidas]

WTF? How come he is the underdog?

It's this some sort of promoting or hyping this fight?  Although Francis Ngannou KO Overeem, and has a KO power, but we all know that Miocic is the champ and has face tougher opponents in the past and also on a roll of his own.

Let's see, I leaning towards Miocic and I'm sure that he will be ready and have a better plans on how to avoid the KO punches on Francis Ngannou, or maybe takes him to the ground.

This is what I'm talking about!!!!

That's why I found it surprising that he is the underdog. Francis has only one thing to offer, his one KO punch.

All judges scored 50-44 for Stipe, Good win and "still" the HW champ.

And thank you, time to withdraw my winnings...

It was strange seeing Stipe Miocic win because he didn't look the more confident of the two while going into this fight.
I did not see the fight as I was out with the family for the evening but from the sounds of it the match went the full amount of rounds since it was determined by the judges score cards for a decision.
Best man won I guess.

[tokeweed]

WTF? How come he is the underdog?

It's this some sort of promoting or hyping this fight?  Although Francis Ngannou KO Overeem, and has a KO power, but we all know that Miocic is the champ and has face tougher opponents in the past and also on a roll of his own.

Let's see, I leaning towards Miocic and I'm sure that he will be ready and have a better plans on how to avoid the KO punches on Francis Ngannou, or maybe takes him to the ground.

This is what I'm talking about!!!!

That's why I found it surprising that he is the underdog. Francis has only one thing to offer, his one KO punch.

All judges scored 50-44 for Stipe, Good win and "still" the HW champ.

And thank you, time to withdraw my winnings...

Yup.  Miocic owned Ngannou's soul.  I guess that's the end of all the hype for him then?  Lol.  I honestly almost bought into it.  The UFC does a great job in marketing events and some fighters.  They seem to have tried to make us think that Ngannou was some sort of second coming.  Lol.

Anyway, who's next for the champ?  Cain Velasquez?  I think Velasquez and Ngannou should fight for dibs for the title shot imo...

[nydiacaskey01]

Last night I am itching to place a bet on Miocic when  saw the odds and I should have done so. Miocic looks pissed at Dana White and grabbed the belt before Dana strapped the belt to Miocic's waist. UFC hyped up Ngannou and make him look like the next cash cow of UFC, but Ngannou's power is no match with the fight plan of Miocic.

When Dana White was interviewed by Fox Sport, Dana mentioned something about Ngannou going to France for a vacation and that 2 weeks prior to the fight. Who would go on a vacation 2 weeks before a main event. But Nganou is graceful at defeat and accepted what happened to him tonight.

There are 2 guys right now that is in line for the next match of Miocic, Cain Velasquez and Daniel Cormier. But UFC will ahve 2 problems to think of before that book either of the two. cain Velasquez has gone surgery after surgery and his body may not be able to deliver what is being expected for him to do. Daniel Cormier needs to step up as he is currently at Light Heavyweight.

[AnotherBTCNoob]

For all his punching power and strength, Ngannou was truly destroyed last night. He looked exhausted after 3 minutes of the fight. Miocic...a masterclass.

[thejaytiesto]

Anyone interested in the Daniel Cormier vs. Volkan Oezdemir fight? I am going to bet on Volkan and I will skip the Miocic vs Ngannou fight. I have checked a few gambling sites, and many of them have under-rated Volkan. I watched his fights against Misha Cirkunov (UFC Fight Night 109) and Jimi Manuwa (UFC 214). He was completely awesome.

....

Volkan Oezdemir is a sparring partner of Anthony "Rumble" Johnson. Rumble says he hit Volkan with full power punches to the chin and Volkan eats them without issue. Rumble also said Volkan trains very hard. What makes it a tough match up to predict is we've never seen Volkan be tested against a great wrestler like Daniel Cormier.

That said, Volkans hands are deadly weapons and a title fight is 5 rounds. He definitely has a "puncher's chance" or finding DC's chin and finishing the fight.

DC has had issues making weight @ 205. There's a question mark as to whether he solved that problem. We might have seen DC's weight cutting issues in his last fight with Jon Jones. If you watch the fight, it looked like DC was kind of sleep walking in the cage. He wasn't fully there. That weight cutting deficit could be enough to give Vokan what he needs to win the fight.

I might make a small parlay with Volkan and a few favorites. +400 or +500 is a decent play when it hits.

It would suck if DC loses this one. I really want to see Cormier vs Bones 3 eventually... it would be an epic trilogy, and just hope Bones doesn't fuck up again, can you imagine? it would be the greatest scam ever in the UFC, but I would still enjoy it. There's too much money involved for it not to happen, but even if Dana White would allow Bones to fight again a million times after testing positive, at some point age will ruin the match so it has to happen rather soon.

My prediction went on pretty smoothly. Cormier's age and shorter reach was not a problem and he kicked ass easily, made a cool 200 bucks on that bet.

Didn't bet on Miocic's win but could have won too. I gave Ngannou a chance for an early KO but didn't happen.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

For all his punching power and strength, Ngannou was truly destroyed last night. He looked exhausted after 3 minutes of the fight. Miocic...a masterclass.

All of the hype just gassed out in the first few minutes and Stepie Miocic came with a good game plan as expected and fought his heart out,one thing i am impressed is that Miocic could not stop Ngannaou even though he was tired even in the first round,Cormier made a statement with the performance by knocking out no time in no time  .

[bbc.reporter]

Last night I am itching to place a bet on Miocic when  saw the odds and I should have done so. Miocic looks pissed at Dana White and grabbed the belt before Dana strapped the belt to Miocic's waist. UFC hyped up Ngannou and make him look like the next cash cow of UFC, but Ngannou's power is no match with the fight plan of Miocic.

When Dana White was interviewed by Fox Sport, Dana mentioned something about Ngannou going to France for a vacation and that 2 weeks prior to the fight. Who would go on a vacation 2 weeks before a main event. But Nganou is graceful at defeat and accepted what happened to him tonight.

There are 2 guys right now that is in line for the next match of Miocic, Cain Velasquez and Daniel Cormier. But UFC will ahve 2 problems to think of before that book either of the two. cain Velasquez has gone surgery after surgery and his body may not be able to deliver what is being expected for him to do. Daniel Cormier needs to step up as he is currently at Light Heavyweight.

Stipe felt he was disprespected by Dana White and the UFC. Did you see that he moved the Monster energy drink can away from him during his press conference? That was their sponsor and that should always be visible to the audience. Stipe wittingly moved the can away to show his aversion to the UFC as an organization, I reckon.

Also, Francis Ngannou has shown that he has more to learn about the game. I was so mistaken to think that he was the next great champion in the UFC.

[thejaytiesto]

I never doubted Cormier winning, he is a world class fighter, Olympian with several gold medals... it's another level. There's no point for him to keep fighting, Jon Jones was the only guy that could match him and he is out indefinitely because of the drug tests.

Ngannou has no ground game.

UFC 221 has no big stars that I can identify other than Mark Hunt, will not stay awake to watch it live, as a casual UFC fan I have no idea about these guys so will not bet anything.