bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy

[muyoso]

If you followed this thread, you would find the bitcoins.lc stats fix.

Or you can goto ryo github under test branch.

I'm not seeing what the change is.

My browser says

"round_shares":"1645384"

from the stats.json.

Bithopper says they are 16k then 70k then 66k shares.  It doesn't seem to be working.  I want it to work because they seem to be the only pool solving blocks right now.

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[hawks5999]

I concur with muyoso - there are discrepancies between bithopper reported shares and the web reported shares.

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If you followed this thread, you would find the bitcoins.lc stats fix.

Or you can goto ryo github under test branch.

I'm not seeing what the change is.

My browser says

"round_shares":"1645384"

from the stats.json.

Bithopper says they are 16k then 70k then 66k shares.  It doesn't seem to be working.  I want it to work because they seem to be the only pool solving blocks right now.

Cause you didnt apply the test branch patch i told you to do.

Go here: https://github.com/ryouiki/bitHopper/commit/e8fa81053efa238c062d03603c44eeecf4a87523

[hawks5999]

Couple of feature requests:

1) Add unhoppable pools such as deepbit or slush as backups - I'd rather failback to deepbit than eligius I think. Seems deepbit has a better payout due to super short (<30 Minute) rounds on average.
2) Add web based control (in ryouiki's fork) to set backup pool - something like a B button to go along with X/O of enable/disable.

Thanks!

1. Just use arsbitcoin as backup, dont really need more than one backup.

I currently have ars and eligius as backups (as is default i believe). But the point is that deepbit seems to be more efficient than the pps from ars or eligius.

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Couple of feature requests:

1) Add unhoppable pools such as deepbit or slush as backups - I'd rather failback to deepbit than eligius I think. Seems deepbit has a better payout due to super short (<30 Minute) rounds on average.
2) Add web based control (in ryouiki's fork) to set backup pool - something like a B button to go along with X/O of enable/disable.

Thanks!

1. Just use arsbitcoin as backup, dont really need more than one backup.

I currently have ars and eligius as backups (as is default i believe). But the point is that deepbit seems to be more efficient than the pps from ars or eligius.

the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

[muyoso]

Cause you didnt apply the test branch patch i told you to do.

Go here: https://github.com/ryouiki/bitHopper/commit/e8fa81053efa238c062d03603c44eeecf4a87523

You are correct, I didn't apply that.  Looks like it may be working by the first poll done.  Thanks.

[paraipan]

Hey guys, I'm in a dilemma... if you don't mind merging some code on github we're hopping a little inefficient. I like all of your forks and every one has it's unique features but can't decide over which one to use. Thanks

[frisco]

Probably this is a known error or I am missing some lib but I get this error everytime I start the hopper then there everything works as it should or at least I think it does.

2011-07-20 14:16:49-0500 [-] Unhandled Error
        Traceback (most recent call last):
          File "bitHopper.py", line 367, in <module>
            main()
          File "bitHopper.py", line 363, in main
            reactor.run()
          File "/opt/python2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/base.py", line 1162, in run
            self.mainLoop()
          File "/opt/python2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/base.py", line 1171, in mainLoop
            self.runUntilCurrent()
        --- <exception caught here> ---
          File "/opt/python2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages/twisted/internet/base.py", line 793, in runUntilCurrent
            call.func(*call.args, **call.kw)
          File "/root/bitHopper/pool.py", line 249, in update_api_servers
            d = work.get(self.bitHopper.json_agent,info['api_address'])
        exceptions.KeyError: 'api_address'

I am using the main branch of coow's github fully updated.

http://pastebin.com/YK3Kj3QJ

[hawks5999]

the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.

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the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.

What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius? Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.

[joulesbeef]

if we could add coinotron.. some of us could mine namecoins now and then while the difficulty is so low making it more profitable than bitcoins.

not sure what to do with the lack of a pool api.. maybe add them as a backup?


why dont i just mine namecoins? well I know they are more profitable from mining bitcoins without hopping but not so sure about mining bitcoins with hopping.

[OCedHrt]

the SMPPS by arsbitcoin at 0% fee pays at a minimum 10% more than PPS from deepbit.

Not sure how you could work on 'feel' when in practice there is no chance deepbits PPS @ 10% fee will pay you more.

Regarding bitcoins.lc, I have a feeling they changed their Prop to score based Prop or something, I just got screwed over by them just finishing a 3hr 30mins block, I mind pretty much solidly for 2hrs 30ms of the block however my original estimate earnings for that period would have been 2.8BTC, and I received 0.18BTC for missing 1hr of the period ? sounds like they should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm not talking about PPS on deepbit, just using the straight prop. Not so much a 'feel' as a comparison to what I was pulling when I was mining just on Deepbit (prop) vs. the coins that are stagnating at eligius and ars. Ars won't pay until .50, eligius won't pay until .33 but Deepbit will pay out above .01

As long as those coins sit in an account at eligius or ars they are at risk (ban and keep) vs. pulling into my wallet where they are actually "mine". Before they are confirmed in my wallet, I can't count them as earned.

What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius? Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.

Min at Ars is 0.01 BTC.

[hawks5999]

ah, you are right. I was looking at automatic payout minimum.

[ed64]

Anyone still mine using multipool/multiclone or have you switched entirely to bitHopper?

I see multiclone uses slush/btcguild, not sure how or if they are backup pools. Otherwise, they primarily appear to mine at mtred/bitcoinpool.

[hawks5999]

What makes you think deepbit wouldnt ban you faster for hopping than ars or eligius?

based on my understanding of how your pool delays stats i am not quite figuring out how they can do this.
are they assuming if a block is solved and they cannot figure out who did it via screen scraping or an api.. it
must be deepbit?

or do you possibly know something i do not?

There are some possible options, but usually they don't give 100% true resuts.
The fact that they don't show it for everyone is a bit suspicious, by the way.

All pool hashrate jumps and dips are visible to me, so if poolhopping will cause a considerable loss for my users, I'll take appropriate actions.

If it is just a backup, and it's just a user-set option it will not cause a considerable loss for his users. Tycho hasn't yet banned for hopping.

Also, prop at deebit is 3% fee, SMPPS is non-variance 0% fee at arsbitcoin.

Not sure at what hashrate you are mining but if 1BTC min withdrawal at arsbitcoin is to much, then I assume you arnt hashing fast.

I'm hashing 2.3-2.6Gh/s so it's not super fast, but it's not nothing.

EDIT:
I guess I want to compare a couple days with ARS as backup to DB as backup to see if the rapid payout rounds from DB make a difference.

[joulesbeef]

Anyone still mine using multipool/multiclon

I mess with it still.

flowers fork using multiclone as a backup site.

I dont like the randomness of payments.. i dont like the long pending. I dont like all my coins being controlled by some guy I dont really know.I dont like how when multipool went down people lost coin. I dont like not knowing how it works.. I do like everything being in once place, all payments come at once and the easy to check website.

I'll probably add it back as a backup when this hoppers development slows down... not sure if it is a great idea, cause if we are going to our backup... as multiclone.. multiclone should be mining on it;s backup.. or at least some site we havent added yet.

[msb8r]

Successfully added a NMC pool as backup
I chose bitparking as no signup is needed. Just start mining. Pay-outs can only happen to the address used as username.

pool.py

Code:

'bitparking':{'shares':difficulty*.41, 'name':'BitParking',
    'mine_address':'bitparking.com:9098', 'user':nmc_user, 
    'pass':nmc_pass, 'lag':False, 'LP':None,
    'role':'backup'},

password.py

Code:

#BitParking - NMC
nmc_user='N65kZkGc4PcHVxfDBSJD43GDytHcWfn8L6'
nmc_pass='x'

Tested on c00w's branch - commit: 438b270 (old, I know, but it's working for me)

Adding share info isn't particularly useful, imo, considering difficulty is in the 23K area.
For pulling html user/pool stats http://bitparking.com/user/<nmc_user> can be used.

[c00w]

1) bitcoins.lc?
They are competely broken and messing with us. Thats why it is disabled. You can do some fancy integral estimation, or use ryou's fork but its still not that geat.

The json api is set to lie through its teeth. So don't use it.

2) Crashes with api_address?
Hmmm. Obviously I don't get it or It would be fixed. Do you have any nonstandard pools enabled?
And I'll add in something which autofills them and might fix your problem.
Hmm.
I really like the log though.

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1) bitcoins.lc?
They are competely broken and messing with us. Thats why it is disabled. You can do some fancy integral estimation, or use ryou's fork but its still not that geat.

The json api is set to lie through its teeth. So don't use it.

I had no problem with stats.json (atleast for the last rounds I mined at bitcoins.lc) however, I stopped briefly as mentioned earlier and they totally raped me for a bunch of my shares.

Wont touch them again soon.

[kbsbtc]

if we could add coinotron.. some of us could mine namecoins now and then while the difficulty is so low making it more profitable than bitcoins.

not sure what to do with the lack of a pool api.. maybe add them as a backup?


why dont i just mine namecoins? well I know they are more profitable from mining bitcoins without hopping but not so sure about mining bitcoins with hopping.

I also am for adding namecoins to bithopper. It seems they are more profitable right now than BTC.