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July 08, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
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Different sources are saying different things.

To my understanding a live-usb version (WITHOUT installation/storage memory) of ubuntu is good for security since it doesn't leave traces of your wallet somewhere.
On the flipside the bitcoin client has to reconstruct the block chain every time, which can take hours for me, seems really impractical.

I'm looking for a good ratio between security and accessibility.

Thoughts?

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July 08, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
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Different sources are saying different things.

To my understanding a live-usb version (WITHOUT installation/storage memory) of ubuntu is good for security since it doesn't leave traces of your wallet somewhere.
On the flipside the bitcoin client has to reconstruct the block chain every time, which can take hours for me, seems really impractical.

I'm looking for a good ratio between security and accessibility.

Thoughts?

partition it into 2 (say if you have a 8gb usb) 6gb ubuntu - 2gb blockchain.

Boot ubuntu > copy blockchain to local filesystem > run bitcoin > do whatever > backup wallet > shutdown.
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July 08, 2011, 09:59:00 AM
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Sounds good.

I'll find information on how to partition a flash drive
Could you tell me where the blockchain is located in Ubuntu?
Is it a file or multiple files?

Thanks

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July 08, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
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Paragon Partition Manager will do it easily
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July 08, 2011, 10:29:48 AM
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Paragon Partition Manager will do it easily

you have to install special drivers for windows to be able to partition usb's. or at least in xp you did.
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July 08, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
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Yeah, I already partitioned it using a bootable program.

Now I just need the location/name of the blockchain file/s Smiley

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July 08, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
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Yeah, I already partitioned it using a bootable program.

Now I just need the location/name of the blockchain file/s Smiley

windows - %APPDATA%/Bitcoin/
unix - ~/.bitcoin/

The 2 files starting with blk are the blockchain files, copy them both.
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July 08, 2011, 11:19:37 AM
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Awesome, thanks!

The partitioned live-usb method looks like the best ratio between security and practicality.
Someone should write a tutorial on it  Cheesy

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July 08, 2011, 12:32:04 PM
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Awesome, thanks!

The partitioned live-usb method looks like the best ratio between security and practicality.
Someone should write a tutorial on it  Cheesy

hehe, don't thank, tip Wink
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July 08, 2011, 12:35:33 PM
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I really advice to use LinuxCoin with permanent install.
I have made some scripts for it to restart miners, if errors occur, etc. So now it's ideal platform for mining Wink

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July 08, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
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I really advice to use LinuxCoin with permanent install.
I have made some scripts for it to restart miners, if errors occur, etc. So now it's ideal platform for mining Wink

he said that he wants it secure. that is not secure.
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July 08, 2011, 12:57:35 PM
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Secure or not, I'm not interested in mining at this point.
More in investement.

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July 08, 2011, 01:04:13 PM
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I really advice to use LinuxCoin with permanent install.
I have made some scripts for it to restart miners, if errors occur, etc. So now it's ideal platform for mining Wink

he said that he wants it secure. that is not secure.

Why not?

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July 08, 2011, 02:12:51 PM
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I really advice to use LinuxCoin with permanent install.
I have made some scripts for it to restart miners, if errors occur, etc. So now it's ideal platform for mining Wink

he said that he wants it secure. that is not secure.

Why not?

He wants a wallet, not a miner.
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July 08, 2011, 02:16:17 PM
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Oh, sorry...
Why wouldn't you like to use eWallets, like mybitcoin? I think it's quite secure.

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July 08, 2011, 02:32:26 PM
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Having discovered bitcoin only a few days ago, I don't have the ability to judge for myself what is more or less secure.
I only go by what seems to be a general consensus among different people/guides that using linux and a bitcoin client is a preferred method security-wise.

I'm definitely open to hear otherwise, it would certainly save me a great deal of headache to simply use an eWallet.

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July 08, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
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Oh, sorry...
Why wouldn't you like to use eWallets, like mybitcoin? I think it's quite secure.
* SomeoneWeird laughs at mybitcoins security

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July 08, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
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Oh, sorry...
Why wouldn't you like to use eWallets, like mybitcoin? I think it's quite secure.
* SomeoneWeird laughs at mybitcoins security



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Hackers in house?!

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July 08, 2011, 03:00:09 PM
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How about this, applying the same logic as with a partitioned USB to this.

Using mybitcoin.com for day to day transactions and when there's enough coins sending that to your linux wallet address, and backing it up from there.
You have the security of a backed up wallet for significant amounts, and the day to day ease of use of an e-wallet.

It feels like I'm missing some fundamental point on how this logic fails, could this work?

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July 08, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
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I was also thinking about there to move my bitcoins from deepbit and as for now, I cannot really decide. So, I'm storing my bitcoins on deepbit account...

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