HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet

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I feel like hashfast should do refunds if they cant ship on their deadline specially with the  network difficulty soaring or ship with MPP when they do ship. HASHFAST HOW MUCH LONGER?

I think that's why so many people were making a fuss about the lack of PP/CC payment options.  Hashfast's terms explicitly state that refunds will not be honored before Jan. 1st, 2014.

Legally, they actually have to give you a refund at any time before they ship if they deliver more than 6 weeks (not sure of the exact time) after ordering, unless they can give you an exact ship date.

The problem with paying by bitcoin is good luck in forcing them to give you a refund like you can if you paid by credit card.

I think the point of not offering CC/PP payment options is to make getting a refund harder, not to make it impossible.  So you're right, even though the law may be on the buyer's side, most refund requests will  be deterred with a simple "No Refund 4U!" terms the buyers is made to accept before purchase.  Some buyers might go as far as an email, some as far as a phone call, and just a few diehards will follow all the way through.  Profit.

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[RoadStress]

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11245642.htm

Really??? prweb.com? Last time when i saw them was this: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9611889.htm

What real company who raised 20 mil $ (correct me if i'm wrong) in pre-order phase releases something like this? Also...they signed an agreement to buy off the shelf PSUs? Because i don't think they will design a CUSTOM PSU. What a bunch of crap...

[Visesrion]

Ya cant wait to post some modular boards and just board stuff in general !

Why is HF waiting to post that photos ?

[DeathAndTaxes]

CoolIT has already developed dual processor liquid cooling system back in 2010 that can dissipate up to 900 watts of heat.  2 of them should be able to fit in the new 4U chassis.  With Overclock performance of over 500 GH per chips (according to Simon's post in the other thread) that is 2TH in a single box, same as Cointerra's TerraMiner IV...  Speaking of which, you can see Cointerra's new 3D renderings of their 4U case design and see they use 1 large radiator to cool 2 ASIC chips.   One can only dream!

One "issue" (only for a moder) with those preconfigured waterloops is generally they are sealed systems.  You can't add an extra waterblock.  So while the unit can handle 900W of heat you couldn't connect 3 waterblocks to it.  Still based on the dimensions it does look like HF could use two waterloops like that to cool 4 boards per chassis (call it a 4 module Sierra or maybe give it a new name).   Lots of interesting options.

I (maybe a minority) am more interested in a custom solution.  Single large radiator, separate pump, separate reservoir and the ability to custom built a different solution.  Using two "server" style power supplies (they tend to be thinner) one could maybe put 6 modules in a single chassis (4U). 

[bobsag3]

CoolIT has already developed dual processor liquid cooling system back in 2010 that can dissipate up to 900 watts of heat.  2 of them should be able to fit in the new 4U chassis.  With Overclock performance of over 500 GH per chips (according to Simon's post in the other thread) that is 2TH in a single box, same as Cointerra's TerraMiner IV...  Speaking of which, you can see Cointerra's new 3D renderings of their 4U case design and see they use 1 large radiator to cool 2 ASIC chips.   One can only dream!

One "issue" (only for a moder) with those preconfigured waterloops is generally they are sealed systems.  You can't add an extra waterblock.  So while the unit can handle 900W of heat you couldn't connect 3 waterblocks to it.  Still based on the dimensions it does look like HF could use two waterloops like that to cool 4 boards per chassis (call it a 4 module Sierra or maybe give it a new name).   Lots of interesting options.

I (maybe a minority) am more interested in a custom solution.  Single large radiator, separate pump, separate reservoir and the ability to custom built a different solution.  Using two "server" style power supplies (they tend to be thinner) one could maybe put 6 modules in a single chassis (4U). 

Im with you.

Use off the shelf PC WC parts (pumps rads res etc). Server hot-swap PSUs etc. easy to do, and should not be that expensive at all (its all consumer grade stuff anyways)

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http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11245642.htm

Really??? prweb.com? Last time when i saw them was this: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9611889.htm

What real company who raised 20 mil $ (correct me if i'm wrong) in pre-order phase releases something like this? Also...they signed an agreement to buy off the shelf PSUs? Because i don't think they will design a CUSTOM PSU. What a bunch of crap...

A PR article overflowing with fascinating revelations passed on to us by Hashfast's CEO.  Consider these pearls of wisdom:

“We believe mining rigs should come complete with the best power supplies available” said HashFast CEO Eduardo de Castro. “The quality and reliability of the power supply has a critical effect on the performance of Bitcoin mining equipment. It’s well known that Sea Sonic is a clear leader in the power supply industry, and their products are widely known for their build quality, efficiency and reliability. Their reputation for quality extends over nearly four decades.”

"Tests of the Sea Sonic power supply show an incredibly stable output and longevity, even when machines are overclocked, enabling miners to generate more Bitcoin for their money."

"“It is a great honor to be working with Sea Sonic,” said de Castro. “We look forward to a long and fruitful relationship.”"

No, really, it's *all* like that.

[cypherdoc]

CoolIT has already developed dual processor liquid cooling system back in 2010 that can dissipate up to 900 watts of heat.  2 of them should be able to fit in the new 4U chassis.  With Overclock performance of over 500 GH per chips (according to Simon's post in the other thread) that is 2TH in a single box, same as Cointerra's TerraMiner IV...  Speaking of which, you can see Cointerra's new 3D renderings of their 4U case design and see they use 1 large radiator to cool 2 ASIC chips.   One can only dream!

One "issue" (only for a moder) with those preconfigured waterloops is generally they are sealed systems.  You can't add an extra waterblock.  So while the unit can handle 900W of heat you couldn't connect 3 waterblocks to it.  Still based on the dimensions it does look like HF could use two waterloops like that to cool 4 boards per chassis (call it a 4 module Sierra or maybe give it a new name).   Lots of interesting options.

I (maybe a minority) am more interested in a custom solution.  Single large radiator, separate pump, separate reservoir and the ability to custom built a different solution.  Using two "server" style power supplies (they tend to be thinner) one could maybe put 6 modules in a single chassis (4U). 

Im with you.

Use off the shelf PC WC parts (pumps rads res etc). Server hot-swap PSUs etc. easy to do, and should not be that expensive at all (its all consumer grade stuff anyways)

+1

[dopamine]

I dont care for most eff PSU. I do care that they do ship on time and if NOT refund my bitcoins!

[NetTime]

hence higher costs and lower quality for competitors.

 Yeah, or I just buy the Seasonic Platinum 1000w and attach it to my Jupiter when it arrived 2 weeks ago.

[Visesrion]

Ya cant wait to post some modular boards and just board stuff in general !

Why is HF waiting to post that photos ?

[Visesrion]

Ya cant wait to post some modular boards and just board stuff in general !

Why is HF waiting to post that photos ?

because they have nothing to photograph.

I am afraid that may be true.

Let's let HF prove we are wrong

[pwnyboy]

You say "20% safety margin" and I think "20% overclocking margin."   

Whoa!  Stop the press... that sounds like something an end-user would say, not an employee of Hashfast. 

Furthermore...

IMPORTANT UPDATE


HashFast customers opting for the Miner Protection Program will receive their additional ASICs already assembled onto mini-boards.

Hashfast, the company, apparently wasn't fully onboard with this... as evidenced by the subsequent post by Amy Woodward only two hours later:

This statement needs to be clarified and was released prematurely. We are currently in the final stages of an internal discussion about how to further protect miners moving forward for customers that opt into purchasing it.

So, tell us, are you employed by Hashfast?  Will someone from an official Hashfast account confirm that?  If not, you're some form of unaffiliated shill.  Are you cypherdoc?

If you're not officially affiliated with Hashfast, the moderators should change your name.  Hashfast employees, what's the deal?

[cypherdoc]

You say "20% safety margin" and I think "20% overclocking margin."   

Whoa!  Stop the press... that sounds like something an end-user would say, not an employee of Hashfast. 

Furthermore...

IMPORTANT UPDATE


HashFast customers opting for the Miner Protection Program will receive their additional ASICs already assembled onto mini-boards.

Hashfast, the company, apparently wasn't fully onboard with this... as evidenced by the subsequent post by Amy Woodward only two hours later:

This statement needs to be clarified and was released prematurely. We are currently in the final stages of an internal discussion about how to further protect miners moving forward for customers that opt into purchasing it.

So, tell us, are you employed by Hashfast?  Will someone from an official Hashfast account confirm that?  If not, you're some form of unaffiliated shill.  Are you cypherdoc?

If you're not officially affiliated with Hashfast, the moderators should change your name.  Hashfast employees, what's the deal?

It's not me you idiot.

I already said I'm not being paid by Hashfast

[pwnyboy]

It's not me you idiot.

Namecalling adds volumes to your credibility.

I already said I'm not being paid by Hashfast

Not being paid, isn't the same thing as being an unaffiliated shill with Hashfast in your name.

Aside, logically thinking individuals can clearly see that my post was directed to the company, and Hashfast_CL specifically, not you.  It makes your calling me an idiot that much funnier.  Keep it up.

[pwnyboy]

p.s. since I wasn't talking to cypherdoc, and he thought I was, I can only conclude by his statements that cypherdoc == Hashfast_CL == unpaid.  Got it.

[cypherdoc]

p.s. since I wasn't talking to cypherdoc, and he thought I was, I can only conclude by his statements that cypherdoc == Hashfast_CL == unpaid.  Got it.

Wow, you're really smart.

[SolarSilver]

p.s. since I wasn't talking to cypherdoc, and he thought I was, I can only conclude by his statements that cypherdoc == Hashfast_CL == unpaid.  Got it.

It's an elaborated plot, where Hashfast_CL PMs me with information that contradicts cypherdoc. So not only is he shilling but also suffering from a split personality? Wow... You are smart

[pwnyboy]

p.s. since I wasn't talking to cypherdoc, and he thought I was, I can only conclude by his statements that cypherdoc == Hashfast_CL == unpaid.  Got it.

It's an elaborated plot, where Hashfast_CL PMs me with information that contradicts cypherdoc. So not only is he shilling but also suffering from a split personality? Wow... You are smart

The word you're looking for is actually "elaborate".

You're looking at me and what you perceive my intelligence to be.  But you ought to be looking at Hashfast_CL.  If this individual does work for Hashfast, why doesn't it bother you that they're giving you privileged information in a PM where any moderator (or any hacker!, as we now know to be the case) can read it?

Are you the pillar of intelligence, or am I?

[SolarSilver]

p.s. since I wasn't talking to cypherdoc, and he thought I was, I can only conclude by his statements that cypherdoc == Hashfast_CL == unpaid.  Got it.

It's an elaborated plot, where Hashfast_CL PMs me with information that contradicts cypherdoc. So not only is he shilling but also suffering from a split personality? Wow... You are smart

The word you're looking for is actually "elaborate".

Oh great, let's piss on the language skills of a person for whom English is the forth language. You must be a 16 year old US citizen. How is moms basement working out?

[DeathAndTaxes]

HashFast have the final PCB been produced?  If so can we see some photos?  
I am interested in final dimensions, locations of power connectors, etc.