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February 18, 2018, 08:14:46 PM
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Hey guys, I am also having trouble understanding what exactly is happening to my shares on the offical mining pool. I started mining 4 days ago and received my first payment rather quick. I am mining with ~10 h/s using Dans Java Miner. Now i havent been getting any payments for 3 days. Every time i check the historic shares the amount displayed goes down. At this point it doesnt even show me the 10 ARO i got paid already, that are sitting in my wallet. Any help/advice would be appreciated.

Hey guys, I am also having trouble understanding what exactly is happening to my shares on the offical mining pool. I started mining 4 days ago and received my first payment rather quick. I am mining with ~10 h/s using Dans Java Miner. Now i havent been getting any payments for 3 days. Every time i check the historic shares the amount displayed goes down. At this point it doesnt even show me the 10 ARO i got paid already, that are sitting in my wallet. Any help/advice would be appreciated.

I had the same problem, mined with around 40-50h/s for about 8h and didn't get anything so I've stopped.

Could you both provide your wallets addresses please so that I may look into this further for you.

Here is mine: 9sAvBZYwXLEhcnoa3aroiMwDam4Dpmg4r2QiB1vFUoLrvppqnJvczWxzPVACoCVF355uKy6sxW1TVWE hExbjksD
Thank you.

From what I can gather, you haven't earnt 10 ARO which is the requirement before payment is made to your wallet. I would suggest to keep on mining and keep an eye on any shares you might be having. If your miner is showing you as having gained shares then there should be no reason why you aren't getting paid for those shares.

Please do let me know how it goes so I can then take this further if needed.

This is wrong. Like i said i received my first payment quickly. Here it is on the block chain: https://arionum.info/transaction/DJj9akH7JuFhpjR31YpX95McVzjwTvg1yZKeyMohE6j9VShcaJd5ey8UhJeeefSsyB2f4Er9ArmE7fmDV5t5yi9
Since then all my records seem to get removed after some time from the pool. At the momemt i can't find any evidence that i have mined for ~4 days. After writing the post yesterday i had 7500 shares and a pending balance of 2 ARO. They are also gone from the pool and i never received them.

Ok looking further into this with the Devs, your pending balance is 8.22995386 ARO, so that is what has been earned over the last few days. I hope this clears things up for you.

Okay good to know. I will try mining again for a few hours and see if i get another payment. It would still be amazing to upgrade the informations you can find on the pool. The pools i have mined on before simply show me: 1. my pending balance 2. my overall payout and 3. my hashrate. Like some other people also pointed out, your pool makes it really difficult to see if you are actually connected, getting shares and what your progress is for a new payment. Thank you for the help and good luck with the projekt.

Update after one night of mining. Shares started to show up for my adress but the pending amount was 0. After mining to 10 ARO again i got paid but the 8.2 ARO that you talked about never appeared.

when you are small miner, your earning balance is growing slowly.. pool shows  earnings in pending balance for last 500 blocks (aprox 33hours), if your earnings are split between more than 500 blocks they looks like they are desapearing (but not true, you had 8.xx), when you reached 10 ARO, all accumulated  earnings was sent to your wallet, hidden or better told not showed earnings also, so you mined lil yesterday or today, you earned +2 more AROs, reached 10 AROs and that is second payment in your wallet that you got today few hours before..

that's your "problem" i suppose.. for one night with 10h/s (8 hours), you could earn max 5/6 AROs aprox if my math is not cheated by some spell Smiley coin is new, more and more interest is coming, so every day difficulty "grows" and naturaly your earning are lower than day or two before.. in last 5 days difficulty for coin got "up" more like 30%-50%

No that is not true. Like i said, i mined from 0 to 10 again, witout ever getting the 8.X. Ill just stop mining for now if my earnings just keep disappearing.
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February 18, 2018, 08:16:35 PM
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Where can i found amd miner?
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February 18, 2018, 08:24:33 PM
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Where can i found amd miner?

The miner works on both intel and amd cpu's, there is no separate miner for amd

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February 18, 2018, 09:10:24 PM
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That would make sense, except that I was getting payouts about three times a day until the 16th, then nothing since then, despite no real change in hashrate.

That is:

14th: ~32 tokens
15th: ~31 tokens
16th: 10.3 tokens
17th: 0 tokens
18th: 0 tokens

Has there been a sudden 30+ x increase in combined hashrate?  I'd expect at least to see a slow tail-off.

Other things that have happened: switched to 0.24 of java miner,= and tried the experimental engine.  Could perhaps be either of those?

Hash rate has risen quite sharply from around 60k h/s to around 130kh/s at peak times. It is a little bit off but as far as we can tell there is nothing wrong with your mining/wallet.

In that case, after three days' solid mining on the pool with a solid number of shares and not even appearing in searches showing pending payouts, it's time to call it a day.

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February 18, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
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If you are running the Java miner there is an update, mine wasn't mining until I updated, working fine now
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February 18, 2018, 09:16:48 PM
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If you are running the Java miner there is an update, mine wasn't mining until I updated, working fine now

Yeah, running the latest.
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February 18, 2018, 09:55:33 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to 

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.
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February 18, 2018, 10:32:28 PM
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Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.



OP should rename ANN thread to 

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

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February 18, 2018, 11:12:04 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to 

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

One 8 core virtual server gets me around 15 H/s and one 1080 gets around 16 H/s.  Are GPUs more efficient then CPU?  I don't know, I guess the tie break will be power consumption between the two.
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Last edit: February 19, 2018, 12:36:51 AM by happenZ
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

One 8 core virtual server gets me around 15 H/s and one 1080 gets around 16 H/s.  Are GPUs more efficient then CPU?  I don't know, I guess the tie break will be power consumption between the two.

If you are referring to the benchmarks listed on aropool.com, they are fake. You can achieve around 28 h/s on a single 1070, and power usage is less than 75 watts.
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February 19, 2018, 12:43:21 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to 

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?
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Last edit: February 19, 2018, 01:39:05 AM by marques99
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?

Here is the GPU miner running 2 1080s, avg combined hash/s is 32 (or 16 each).  If you want I can stop my miner and run just one of my cards.

https://i.imgur.com/3HoNHUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ba9bxDV.jpg


Here is a 8 core virtual server that I am running that is giving me 18 Hash/s.
https://i.imgur.com/vMwc9D6.jpg
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February 19, 2018, 01:44:36 AM
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Is it normal for this not to produce a single share even after half an hr of mining?

I have an i7-4790 and using the java miner.. gets me about 11 H/s
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February 19, 2018, 02:10:15 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?

Here is the GPU miner running 2 1080s, avg combined hash/s is 32 (or 16 each).  If you want I can stop my miner and run just one of my cards.

https://i.imgur.com/3HoNHUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ba9bxDV.jpg


Here is a 8 core virtual server that I am running that is giving me 18 Hash/s.
https://i.imgur.com/vMwc9D6.jpg

What are your settings for 1080, -b 15 -t 1?
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February 19, 2018, 02:39:53 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?

Here is the GPU miner running 2 1080s, avg combined hash/s is 32 (or 16 each).  If you want I can stop my miner and run just one of my cards.

https://i.imgur.com/3HoNHUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ba9bxDV.jpg


Here is a 8 core virtual server that I am running that is giving me 18 Hash/s.
https://i.imgur.com/vMwc9D6.jpg

What are your settings for 1080, -b 15 -t 1?

yes they are -b 15 -t 1
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February 19, 2018, 02:52:14 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?

Here is the GPU miner running 2 1080s, avg combined hash/s is 32 (or 16 each).  If you want I can stop my miner and run just one of my cards.

https://i.imgur.com/3HoNHUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ba9bxDV.jpg


Here is a 8 core virtual server that I am running that is giving me 18 Hash/s.
https://i.imgur.com/vMwc9D6.jpg

What are your settings for 1080, -b 15 -t 1?

yes they are -b 15 -t 1
https://i.imgur.com/gknv9lI.png
 Huh
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February 19, 2018, 03:07:45 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/QKwugjx.png

Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.

https://i.imgur.com/muQnZrs.png

OP should rename ANN thread to  

[ANN] [ARO] | Arionum | Cloudmining only | PHP Based | Centralized Revolution

text book example of a shitcoin.

The GPU miner does not work like it used to, in most cases a GPU does worse than CPU. We tested with 2080TI's and got less than 20 h/s

I doubt that a 1080 TI gets less h/s than a 1070. Can you provide a screenshot with your claim?

Here is the GPU miner running 2 1080s, avg combined hash/s is 32 (or 16 each).  If you want I can stop my miner and run just one of my cards.

https://i.imgur.com/3HoNHUB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ba9bxDV.jpg


Here is a 8 core virtual server that I am running that is giving me 18 Hash/s.
https://i.imgur.com/vMwc9D6.jpg

What are your settings for 1080, -b 15 -t 1?

yes they are -b 15 -t 1
https://i.imgur.com/gknv9lI.png
 Huh

Interesting, maybe my older CPU/memory is being the bottle neck.
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February 19, 2018, 04:11:59 AM
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Average hashrate climbed to 220 h/s, mainly from Google Cloud Platform and Amazon Web Services. I hope you have 20 CPUs or ten 1080 TIs at home to compete with them. Yes, you read correctly, you can mine it with GPUs on linux too (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner), it's even more efficient than a CPU! Decentralization is zero at the moment and the network very weak, vulnerable to 51% attacks. Three to five addresses have 60-80% of nethash for weeks now.


Didn't see anyone else reply to this but it seems important to mention

This isn't BTC. Fees are fixed, common, known and non-variable (same rule against all transactions). Block size is variable based on past block's nearness to size cap. But, what decides transaction inclusion? Miners? Nope. Nodes. So, the health of the network -- its vulnerability, so to speak, is controlled by the distributed nodes, not the miners. 50-60-70% "mining" ownership doesn't confer any special power to determine block direction. If they run a solo mining gig and attempt to alter transaction / mempool, all the other nodes will reject them. It'd be good to do a more rigorous analysis on the vulnerabilities, risks, and benefits of this approach vs. the BTC approach, but the traditional mining-based 51% rule quite literally does not apply here.

Hope that helps a bit.
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February 19, 2018, 11:22:53 AM
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@happenZ The fact that it's worth mining with clouds proves just that the CPU mining works as it's supposed to on a cpu coin. Nobody stops you from spinning your own clouds and mining it. Some people are investing a lot of money into clouds to mine it with CPU, you can do the same.
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February 19, 2018, 01:06:45 PM
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@happenZ The fact that it's worth mining with clouds proves just that the CPU mining works as it's supposed to on a cpu coin. Nobody stops you from spinning your own clouds and mining it. Some people are investing a lot of money into clouds to mine it with CPU, you can do the same.

What you are saying is actually only partially true, since you can spin up all your aws ec2´s with GPUs and GPUs (still) outperform CPU hash power on ARO. Your argument is invalid as far as it is invalid for every other coin/miner out there, more money (hardware, aws, gpus, etc ) equals more hashpower, it´s not about CPU vs GPU Algo. I´m not saying that´s a bad thing, I´m just saying that the fact that people are spending money on aws-Mining doesn't´t say anything about that "the CPU mining works as it's supposed to on a cpu coin" as you stated. It only shows that people believe in ARO and the possible gain in value of it, which is a good thing I guess.
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