Anacs undergoing a PROCEDURE CHANGE

[johnny211]

Adding to the issue:

Is it even possible to get crypto coins located in the EU graded in any reasonable way today? Shipping to ANACS in the US is for most of EU completely out of the question due to customs issues.

[Blazed]

Adding to the issue:

Is it even possible to get crypto coins located in the EU graded in any reasonable way today? Shipping to ANACS in the US is for most of EU completely out of the question due to customs issues.

There is a special way to ship them to ANACS where you do not pay customs. ANACS has a form for customs that takes care of that little issue. To answer the first question: Nope...only ANACS in the USA.

Here is a link with more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=953862

[johnny211]

There is a special way to ship them to ANACS where you do not pay customs. ANACS has a form for customs that takes care of that little issue. To answer the first question: Nope...only ANACS in the USA.

Here is a link with more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=953862

Excellent info, thanks!

[elianite]

I must say, you are limiting yourselves if you intend to make this for physical crypto's only. There is not and likely will not be enough volume to support any kind of worthwhile business venture. Though of course 2-3 people doing it as a hobby is cool, it still that brings up questions of insurance, etc.

Frankly, I would expect one or more of these people quit rather quickly, as while they may go into it with the best of intentions, I can practically guarantee that there will be drama, accusations, and all kinds of things stemming from the fact that you are handling 100k+ (soon ) coins of people from different countries. Mistakes may be made, shipments may be lost, accusations will be made, integrates will be called to question, and accusations of favoritism will be openly debated. I would not want this for myself, especially if I was doing the work purely as a hobby/favor.

I believe there is an opportunity to use the 'hype' around bitcoins and blockchain, and the novelty of physical crypto, to create significant publicity for a new coin grading service, that may compete with the existing graders. This could for example utilize blockchain tech for tracking coins & grades, and even use a distributed/decentralized blind-judging model where several experts grade each coin, and the average grade is assigned automatically. There may even be the possibility of raising money with an ICO with a utility token, but that is not by any means critical.

I would be happy to play a role in this kind of enterprise, should others show serious initiative.

[Rmcdermott927]

Procedure changes like this are unsettling.   Grade malleability across different time periods degrades customer confidence.  Hopefully this does not change again. 

[Blazed]

I have an order sitting at ANACS that has been in process for 48 days now. Not sure of any price changes, but the turn around times are slower and slower. ANACS needs to fix this...

Another week and still not graded yet...  55 days so far for this last batch I sent them.

[Ticked]

Agreed. Someone with years of coin collecting/grading experience + crypto collectible experience should start a small company to fill this niche. I'd use the service.

Regards,
Chris

Lets make it an ICO.. First decentralized / semi-decentralized coin grading service.
Utility Token: Each token is good for one coin grading.

Thoughts?

When I first mentioned this earlier in the thread, I was only half joking.  I back this, but i agree, a true grader with experience in the field will be necessary.

I must say, you are limiting yourselves if you intend to make this for physical crypto's only. There is not and likely will not be enough volume to support any kind of worthwhile business venture. Though of course 2-3 people doing it as a hobby is cool, it still that brings up questions of insurance, etc.

Frankly, I would expect one or more of these people quit rather quickly, as while they may go into it with the best of intentions, I can practically guarantee that there will be drama, accusations, and all kinds of things stemming from the fact that you are handling 100k+ (soon ) coins of people from different countries. Mistakes may be made, shipments may be lost, accusations will be made, integrates will be called to question, and accusations of favoritism will be openly debated. I would not want this for myself, especially if I was doing the work purely as a hobby/favor.

I believe there is an opportunity to use the 'hype' around bitcoins and blockchain, and the novelty of physical crypto, to create significant publicity for a new coin grading service, that may compete with the existing graders. This could for example utilize blockchain tech for tracking coins & grades, and even use a distributed/decentralized blind-judging model where several experts grade each coin, and the average grade is assigned automatically. There may even be the possibility of raising money with an ICO with a utility token, but that is not by any means critical.

I would be happy to play a role in this kind of enterprise, should others show serious initiative.

Further thoughts I've had.  Ship the coins to a central location (always registered), perhaps a trusted escrow.  Grader makes quarterly trips to this location to grade the coins. Bring the grader to the coins, not the opposite. We have escrows that've handled silly amounts of funds. and international shippers with great records, though I could support an EU and an American Representative. the two combined with a mobile grader (quarterly, monthly, whatever the demand is) makes for a good start and go from there.  Im open to comments and thoughts on this idea.

[Lesbian Cow]

I have an order sitting at ANACS that has been in process for 48 days now. Not sure of any price changes, but the turn around times are slower and slower. ANACS needs to fix this...

Another week and still not graded yet...  55 days so far for this last batch I sent them.

I have an order at ANACS which has been in the "Opening" stage since Dec 17

[monkeynuts]

Hopefully you guys arent then gonna wait for imaging as well .... ?

[owlcatz]

I have one that was opened on 12/4/2017, and is still in "GRADING"... expected ship date was 12/26/2017.... 

[Fattcatt]

Same here Owlcatz, 1st week in December......

[owlcatz]

Same here Owlcatz, 1st week in December......

I'm actually not surprised by a delay, but this one is longer than usual. However, I've been assured countless times by countless idiots there that everything is just fine, and things will be back on track Soon^tm 

[Lesbian Cow]

Same here Owlcatz, 1st week in December......

I'm actually not surprised by a delay, but this one is longer than usual. However, I've been assured countless times by countless idiots there that everything is just fine, and things will be back on track Soon^tm 

2 weeks ^tm

[bavicrypto]

Same here Owlcatz, 1st week in December......

I'm actually not surprised by a delay, but this one is longer than usual. However, I've been assured countless times by countless idiots there that everything is just fine, and things will be back on track Soon^tm 

2 weeks ^tm

My fault... next time I'll send in less coins so the line doesn't get backed up.... loolz

Looool, how many did you send in total? 

[owlcatz]

Same here Owlcatz, 1st week in December......

I'm actually not surprised by a delay, but this one is longer than usual. However, I've been assured countless times by countless idiots there that everything is just fine, and things will be back on track Soon^tm  

2 weeks ^tm

My fault... next time I'll send in less coins so the line doesn't get backed up.... loolz

Looool, how many did you send in total?  

Probably a few hundred for that guy ^^^ LOLZ... . I've got ~ 50 there total I think...

[Blazed]

Well, regardless of changes with their policies they should not be holding us out this long. It is a good thing for them they are the only grader because when I get treated like shit I usually do not go back...

[owlcatz]

Well, regardless of changes with their policies they should not be holding us out this long. It is a good thing for them they are the only grader because when I get treated like shit I usually do not go back...

I agree, we all submit a lot of coins there. The other funny thing is i have a few orders in - in process, "Grading" but I have also not seen them charge my Visa account for like 2 of the orders yet.... 

[iCEBREAKER]

Well, regardless of changes with their policies they should not be holding us out this long. It is a good thing for them they are the only grader because when I get treated like shit I usually do not go back...

I agree, we all submit a lot of coins there. The other funny thing is i have a few orders in - in process, "Grading" but I have also not seen them charge my Visa account for like 2 of the orders yet....  

That is not normal.  There must be some sort of fuckery aboot.  ANACS knows you can easily light very hot BBB and/or FTC and/or Postal Police and/or Letter of Demand fires under their asses.

In B4 ANACS graded slabs become more collectible than the underlying [name of your favorite crypto-collectible].  

[Blazed]

Well, regardless of changes with their policies they should not be holding us out this long. It is a good thing for them they are the only grader because when I get treated like shit I usually do not go back...

I agree, we all submit a lot of coins there. The other funny thing is i have a few orders in - in process, "Grading" but I have also not seen them charge my Visa account for like 2 of the orders yet....  

That is not normal.  There must be some sort of fuckery aboot.  ANACS knows you can easily light very hot BBB and/or FTC and/or Postal Police and/or Letter of Demand fires under their asses.

In B4 ANACS graded slabs become more collectible than the underlying [name of your favorite crypto-collectible].  

The problem is we use "economy service" that says it can take 3-4 weeks or longer. They can easily say we have no guaranteed return date etc... I will email Andrew again today and see what the hold up is though. I have been grading these coins with them for 5 years now and never had a delay like this except the time they lost my coins.

[krogothmanhattan]

Well, regardless of changes with their policies they should not be holding us out this long. It is a good thing for them they are the only grader because when I get treated like shit I usually do not go back...

I agree, we all submit a lot of coins there. The other funny thing is i have a few orders in - in process, "Grading" but I have also not seen them charge my Visa account for like 2 of the orders yet....  

That is not normal.  There must be some sort of fuckery aboot.  ANACS knows you can easily light very hot BBB and/or FTC and/or Postal Police and/or Letter of Demand fires under their asses.

In B4 ANACS graded slabs become more collectible than the underlying [name of your favorite crypto-collectible].  

The problem is we use "economy service" that says it can take 3-4 weeks or longer. They can easily say we have no guaranteed return date etc... I will email Andrew again today and see what the hold up is though. I have been grading these coins with them for 5 years now and never had a delay like this except the time they lost my coins.

What do you mean they lost your coins??