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Be aware. Do your own research, everything is a scam, false promises, false information. A lot of people is being scammed right now. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2288789.newThey claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming. Their linkedins are fake, they faked profiles in crunchbase, xing and other network to look trusthworthy. https://www.linkedin.com/company/2061291/ has 98 employees in Linkedin, most of them are ico related or sockpuppets fakes accounts, a lot of "project managers". The same for his other scam company called Braincess, is registered in whitepages with the same President, phone number, and address: https://www.linkedin.com/company/braincess-inc-/DON'T LOSE YOUR MONEY with this ERC20 scam token |
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TraDove CEO addresses recent comments. See Telegram message below:
1. About the scam issue. There are false claims that we are a scam. We have done our best to present our information. Many of them are self proving like those videos from our advisors. We cannot prove to every claim that we are, so you should make your own judgement. We will defend legally any false claims that cause damage for us. Fortunately, up to now, this has not happened as those people could not provide any evidence.
2. About our process. Because we take both BTC, ETH and Fiat, we have to manage the process semi-automatically. A. You have to upload your KYC info so we would be SEC compliant by approving you. Meaning we have to read your passport or ID, that cannot be done automatically especially with obscure picture. Build a machine reading system will take lots of time and resources. B. After you place the order and upload the proof, we have to proof read and compare it with our wallets and bank accounts. BTC and ETH are easy. But Fiat wire is more tedious and time consuming as we have to compare it with our bank account. So we cannot do smart contract for multiple channel verification. It has to be done semiautomatically. We actually prefer wire as we don’t need to convert BTC and ETH to cash to finance our operation. Again building an auto proofing connection to banks will take a long time and lots of resources.
3. About multiple wallet addresses. We use Coinbase to receive money and may add Gemini soon. They provide higher security and ease of management than we do ourselves. Coinbase use multiple wallet address per account. That is why people see money are distributed right after arrival. Please consult Coinbase for that matter for further questions.
4. About Investment. Please invest responsibly and invest only the amount you can afford to lose. We have seen investor borrowed money to invest. That is not right. We are happy to refund any one who have doubt about our project, who regret and who have other difficulties. Fortunately so far we have only done 3 times.
I hope I have clarified major issues you concerned about. Even though we welcome every one to participate, I apologize that we cannot make every one happy due to our limited bandwidth and overwhelming demand. Have fun!
Kent J Yan
Founder and CEO
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January 10, 2018, 11:46:40 AM |
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SCAMMER
Ok I just had to create an account here just to shut this guy up calling this a scam. Today after listening to this idiot (stupid me, I know), I freaked out and immediately requested my investment back from TraDove. I was REFUNDED my ENTIRE AMOUNT from TraDove after telling them I was concerned with the negative press. It took maybe 9 hours for this to arrive. DID YOU HEAR THAT "ENTERTAINMENT"? THEY REFUNDED ME IN FULL. Not only has this user "Entertainment" provided me with undue stress, but I have now wasted the time of the TraDove team who are frantically putting together this ICO and manually approving transactions. Entertainment - you have to realise that if you do not have any concrete proof of what you are saying, then please be quiet - you are causing so many problems to future investors as well as the TraDove team who are putting together a product that can really help businesses work together. These baseless assumptions have cost a lot of people time and money. So now after this fiasco, I will be re-investing back into TraDove by investing more than my original amount. If anyone has any questions for me I am happy to answer them. PS - If you are currently in the process of getting a refund - they have told me that it may take 24 hours due to the volume in coping with the ICO. Thanks PPS - If you see this comment I have written on multiple threads it is because I can see this guy is spreading FUD on nearly every forum page for TraDove...so given the amount of time I have taken from the TraDove team, I feel this is the least I can do to help them out. |
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January 10, 2018, 11:57:04 AM |
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What do you have to say about this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVGtP2DRdwThink about it - there is no way Mike Honda and Richard Rosenberg would have put their names to a scam. |
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January 10, 2018, 12:00:04 PM |
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Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot. But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it... I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal. |
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January 10, 2018, 12:09:20 PM |
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Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot. But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it... I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal. I haven't looked too deep into this project yet. What makes you think it will succeed? |
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January 10, 2018, 12:28:00 PM |
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Exactly - I wish I just trusted my initial instincts about this project (that I had found a hidden gem) instead of listening to this idiot. But you know what they say, the fear of losing money is greater than the fear of making it... I have no doubt in my mind that TraDove will succeed in their goal. I haven't looked too deep into this project yet. What makes you think it will succeed? It's not really my place to run you through the pro's and con's of the project...BUT if you wish. If you watch the video you will see Kent outline the issues with B2B communication and transactions. Moving their existing product onto the blockchain will enable large scale businesses to transact with buyers of their product, or to purchase product from large scale sellers. Think of it like an eBay for corporate sized buyers and sellers - we are talking a scale bigger than something like Alibaba for example. Having a rating system for buyers and sellers will enable businesses to safely and confidently transact with each other as the feedback for these companies will be there for all to see. Finally, tokenizing this business model will solve the liquidity problems that these companies face when making massive international purchases, where funds can be tied up for days, weeks or months. Purchasing bbCoins to transact will make payments between buyers and sellers immediately and safely. I truly do not see how this can fail - it passes Vitalik's test, has an incredibly strong business model and has perhaps one of the best teams I have ever seen running this project. |
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January 10, 2018, 12:42:16 PM |
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This "Entertainment" guy is the only one spamming SCAM all over the place like retard!
I can tell you this, after asking tons of questions on Telegram for several days and doing all sort of due diligence on this project, there is no single doubt in my mind that this is a LEGIT project and in no way a SCAM!
To throw away false accusations is pretty easy to do these days and never bring a solid proof supporting them!
In my opinion this is the most undervalued ICO I've ever seen and it has HUGE potential, since not much marketing has been done so far!
Do your own research and invest responsibly, but don't just believe what a retard is typing, instead go clear your concerns on Telegram or by doing your own due diligence!
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January 10, 2018, 12:52:15 PM |
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This "Entertainment" guy is the only one spamming SCAM all over the place like retard!
I can tell you this, after asking tons of questions on Telegram for several days and doing all sort of due diligence on this project, there is no single doubt in my mind that this is a LEGIT project and in no way a SCAM!
To throw away false accusations is pretty easy to do these days and never bring a solid proof supporting them!
In my opinion this is the most undervalued ICO I've ever seen and it has HUGE potential, since not much marketing has been done so far!
Do your own research and invest responsibly, but don't just believe what a retard is typing, instead go clear your concerns on Telegram or by doing your own due diligence!
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entertainment (OP)
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January 10, 2018, 01:20:41 PM |
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They got scammed as well. At least they earn some money to recording this. |
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January 10, 2018, 01:27:48 PM |
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They got scammed as well. At least they earn some money to recording this. Well there you have it folks - game, set and match - the worst FUD attempt I have ever seen has now reached new heights. Richard Rosenberg and Mike Honda have apparently been scammed by TraDove! How could Richard Rosenberg & Mike Honda have been so stupid?  Clearly I am being incredibly sarcastic, I am just trying to highlight the absolute ridiculousness of "Entertainment's" claims. |
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January 10, 2018, 01:40:42 PM |
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Ah yes...the /biz section of 4chan...the fountain of all wisdom hahaha. The funds have been moved to CoinBase you idiot - NOT BINANCE - and this was clarified by the CEO of TraDove: "About multiple wallet addresses. We use Coinbase to receive money and may add Gemini soon. They provide higher security and ease of management than we do ourselves. Coinbase uses multiple wallet addresses per account. This is why people see money distributed there right after arrival." |
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January 10, 2018, 02:15:05 PM |
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Hi, so i succesfull uploaded the evidence regarding the payment and and instead time of approval and order status from pending to approval, my payment is gone. It doesnt show in my tradove account anymore.
In this case i see 2 scenarious:
1. Its not the team mentioned in their whitepaper and there's a team of noobies and they dont know actually what to do, this project being way too big for them.
2. Its a scam.
I suggest to stop funding this platform. There are so many better opportunities.
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January 10, 2018, 02:56:41 PM |
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ALWAYS DO YOUR RESEARCH.You may appreciate the following information from the people actually involved with the project ....... Best, Kristen TraDove Admin 1. YouTuber @TheGobOne to interview Kent Yan live on January 12th.
Set reminder here ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINMEkW77VM
2. Richard Rosenberg on TraDove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Miwkpdl8Mtg&t=5s
3. Mike Honda on TraDove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lToEaSAVb10&t=1s
And this message from TraDove CEO Kent Yan: 1. About the scam issue. There are false claims that we are a scam. We have done our best to present our information. Many of them are self proving like those videos from our advisors. We cannot prove to every claim that we are, so you should make your own judgement. We will defend legally any false claims that cause damage for us. Fortunately, up to now, this has not happened as those people could not provide any evidence. 2. About our process. Because we take both BTC, ETH and Fiat, we have to manage the process semi-automatically. A. You have to upload your KYC info so we would be SEC compliant by approving you. Meaning we have to read your passport or ID, that cannot be done automatically especially with obscure picture. Build a machine reading system will take lots of time and resources. B. After you place the order and upload the proof, we have to proof read and compare it with our wallets and bank accounts. BTC and ETH are easy. But Fiat wire is more tedious and time consuming as we have to compare it with our bank account. So we cannot do smart contract for multiple channel verification. It has to be done semiautomatically. We actually prefer wire as we don’t need to convert BTC and ETH to cash to finance our operation. Again building an auto proofing connection to banks will take a long time and lots of resources. 3. About multiple wallet addresses. We use Coinbase to receive money and may add Gemini soon. They provide higher security and ease of management than we do ourselves. Coinbase use multiple wallet address per account. That is why people see money are distributed right after arrival. Please consult Coinbase for that matter for further questions. 4. About Investment. Please invest responsibly and invest only the amount you can afford to lose. We have seen investor borrowed money to invest. That is not right. We are happy to refund any one who have doubt about our project, who regret and who have other difficulties. Fortunately so far we have only done 3 times. I hope I have clarified major issues you concerned about. Even though we welcome every one to participate, I apologize that we cannot make every one happy due to our limited bandwidth and overwhelming demand. Have fun! Kent J Yan Founder and CEO
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January 10, 2018, 08:41:28 PM |
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Ah yes...the /biz section of 4chan...the fountain of all wisdom hahaha. The funds have been moved to CoinBase you idiot - NOT BINANCE - and this was clarified by the CEO of TraDove: "About multiple wallet addresses. We use Coinbase to receive money and may add Gemini soon. They provide higher security and ease of management than we do ourselves. Coinbase uses multiple wallet addresses per account. This is why people see money distributed there right after arrival." Do you even know what is a BLOCKHAIN? That's a real proof from ETHEREUM blockchain that TRADOVE team (you inlcluded) are stealing the money from "investors" |
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January 10, 2018, 08:55:06 PM |
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REMINDER: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
"In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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