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July 10, 2011, 02:10:42 PM
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Would still be cool to send a message with the transaction ^^
no it would not! its not what the blockchain is for!

I think a small twitter like message wouldn't hurt that much.
I for one would like to include my email address along with each payment i send. Just in case the receiver messes up, i can point him to "that payment you received with my email address in it, search for it!".
you already can do that. it would not be good. every block would grow very large.

twitter message is what twitter is for.

Don't be an asshole. He said twitter like, like 140 characters long, you moron. You really came across as a real asshole on your 2 last posts. Embarrassed

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math:
VISA is handling 10.000 transaction/sec.
each bitcoin transaction is around 3100 bytes long, it can vary. that means when/if we are gonna handle as much transactions as VISA,
each block will be a round 10000*3100*60*10=18.600.000.000 = 18.6 Gb big.

what you are suggesting is making a block 340 bytes long, right?
then the blocks will be of 19.56 Gb big.

do you see the problem?


conclusion:
dont put messages in transactions. just dont.

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July 10, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
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1GB more is hardly anything when it's that much already..

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July 10, 2011, 02:21:19 PM
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1GB more is hardly anything when it's that much already..
still, bitcoin is not an messaging system. 

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July 10, 2011, 02:25:06 PM
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each block will be a round 10000*3100*60*10=18.600.000.000 = 18.6 Gb big.

what you are suggesting is making a block 340 bytes long, right?
then the blocks will be of 19.56 Gb big.

Only if you count GB's in the same way HDD manufacturers do  Tongue

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July 10, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
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1GB more is hardly anything when it's that much already..
still, bitcoin is not an messaging system. 

It would become more attractive Wink

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July 10, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
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That's why the block solving should be done as a big pool with every machine getting a small part of the work (and bounty) and not by a single machine like it is done now.

If bitcoin really grows to that point it will be impossible to manage, with or without messages Wink

I'm open to understand why i'm wrong, if that's the case Smiley

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July 10, 2011, 02:33:03 PM
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1GB more is hardly anything when it's that much already..
still, bitcoin is not an messaging system. 

It would become more attractive Wink

And i'd rather read spam that cost some bitcents to send than the usual email spam  Grin

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July 10, 2011, 02:34:40 PM
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It would become more attractive Wink

It would become more error prone, and costly to use, for no actual benefit. Do not add unneeded complexity to already complex systems!

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July 10, 2011, 02:40:57 PM
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one other thing is i think at least the client should have some input for notes when you send an amount.

that note doesn't have to go into the block chain but just get recorded somewhere in your client's files.
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July 10, 2011, 04:04:23 PM
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Another option to track payment may be to have people pay with very small divisions. E.g, 5.3594812 BTC. The .0094812 being fairly insubstantial, but used to track payments and associate them with order data.

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July 10, 2011, 04:24:40 PM
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Hmm i didn't really think about the enormous space issue.
Is there a way we could have a parallel block chain that will have transactions associated with messages. That way the messages aren't forced into the block chain? I know this sounds redundant but messaging would be very appealing to new users i think.
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July 10, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
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Another option to track payment may be to have people pay with very small divisions. E.g, 5.3594812 BTC. The .0094812 being fairly insubstantial, but used to track payments and associate them with order data.
or you cloud just make a new address to them.

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