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February 02, 2018, 07:59:56 PM
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Lessons learned.
1. Increased time for coin earnings to mature, so we have time to fix orphans etc...
2. Because of SPARK fork some received wrongly earned BTC - additional adjustment to balance made, leading to minus for some of you, as payments already done earlier. Don't be surprised


Entire pool was going to minus because of don't earned money, I already covered 0.1BTC from my own, but rest I have to adjust. Thank you understanding, and fingress crossed for no more forks..
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February 02, 2018, 08:03:51 PM
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Hi,

just see that my balance drop to minus, whats happen?Huh??


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Lessons learned. 1. Increased time for coin earnings to mature, so we have time to fix orphans etc... 2. Because of SPARK fork some received wrongly earned BTC - additional adjustment to balance made, leading to minus for some of you, as payments already done earlier at 19:00 CET. Dont be surprised
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February 02, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
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2. Because of SPARK fork some received wrongly earned BTC - additional adjustment to balance made, leading to minus for some of you, as payments already done earlier. Don't be surprised
Were balances adjusted twice today? According to graph of my wallet, my balance decreased twice today. Is it correct?
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February 02, 2018, 08:15:47 PM
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2. Because of SPARK fork some received wrongly earned BTC - additional adjustment to balance made, leading to minus for some of you, as payments already done earlier. Don't be surprised
Were balances adjusted twice today? According to graph of my wallet, my balance decreased twice today. Is it correct?
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Yes, first drop in green line is when I prevent wrong earnings to convert to balance, managed to remove them.

Second adjustment I did just now was to fix amount which managed to transform to balance.

If you have a look at graph you had rapid grow in pending(green) and the same rapid grow after 8 hurs in balance(blue) copying pattern of growth.

So that rapid growth in balance (blue) should not be happening because of SPARK fork.... And this is what I have adjusted just now. Given that many of you recieved payments for this earlier- you will see minus at some balances.

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February 02, 2018, 08:33:41 PM
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2. Because of SPARK fork some received wrongly earned BTC - additional adjustment to balance made, leading to minus for some of you, as payments already done earlier. Don't be surprised
Were balances adjusted twice today? According to graph of my wallet, my balance decreased twice today. Is it correct?
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Yes, first drop in green line is when I prevent wrong earnings to convert to balance, managed to remove them.

Second adjustment I did just now was to fix amount which managed to transform to balance.

If you have a look at graph you had rapid grow in pending(green) and the same rapid grow after 8 hurs in balance(blue) copying pattern of growth.

So that rapid growth in balance (blue) should not be happening because of SPARK fork.... And this is what I have adjusted just now. Given that many of you recieved payments for this earlier- you will see minus at some balances.



Whoa, stop right there. We are using your pool, your software, if a fork happened that is at your expense. Please credit back my earnings...we still have to pay for our electricity whilst you had us mining rubbish.
Please re-imburse withing 24 hours.

This is your lesson to learn, not ours.
J
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February 02, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
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Yes, first drop in green line is when I prevent wrong earnings to convert to balance, managed to remove them.

Second adjustment I did just now was to fix amount which managed to transform to balance.

If you have a look at graph you had rapid grow in pending(green) and the same rapid grow after 8 hurs in balance(blue) copying pattern of growth.

So that rapid growth in balance (blue) should not be happening because of SPARK fork.... And this is what I have adjusted just now. Given that many of you recieved payments for this earlier- you will see minus at some balances.
Whoa, stop right there. We are using your pool, your software, if a fork happened that is at your expense. Please credit back my earnings...we still have to pay for our electricity whilst you had us mining rubbish.
Please re-imburse withing 24 hours.

This is your lesson to learn, not ours.
J

Context is important here: you are mining on a new pool being managed by a single guy who is making 0% fees. He is paying for the IT behind the pool from his own pocket and essentially offering you a free proxy to mine cooperatively. I would understand your point of view if this were an established large pool making piles of $ for it's owner, but that is just not the case. Pinpins is busting his ass to create his own custom pool for us and trying to cater to the new users as best he can. This includes adding low difficulty and new coins that are prone to "misbehaving".

In the case above, you were paid with BTC that you didn't actually earn and likely came out of his own pocket. He is using the available technology to predict, as best he can, what you will eventually get paid for mining a coin. Until those coins or exchanged BTC end up in the pool coffers it isn't real and, as we've seen over the last few weeks, there is a lot that can go wrong. Altcoins can be fickle beasts.

There are bound to be growing pains associated with new pools; if you are worried about wasted hashrates for a single day, stick to the giant established pools who will happily take 1-2% off the top of your earnings and won't be as flexible with pool structure. I prefer the small pool "feel" and ability to directly mine a coin directly or not via his custom "mc=" flag, which is rare.

I'm happily earning myself back out of the "BTC red" right now and will continue mining here because of the tireless effort Pinpins is putting in to try to make his site user-friendly (does this guy ever sleep?).
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February 02, 2018, 09:01:36 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2018, 10:07:11 PM by Eneen
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Yes, first drop in green line is when I prevent wrong earnings to convert to balance, managed to remove them.

Second adjustment I did just now was to fix amount which managed to transform to balance.

If you have a look at graph you had rapid grow in pending(green) and the same rapid grow after 8 hurs in balance(blue) copying pattern of growth.

So that rapid growth in balance (blue) should not be happening because of SPARK fork.... And this is what I have adjusted just now. Given that many of you recieved payments for this earlier- you will see minus at some balances.
Whoa, stop right there. We are using your pool, your software, if a fork happened that is at your expense. Please credit back my earnings...we still have to pay for our electricity whilst you had us mining rubbish.
Please re-imburse withing 24 hours.

This is your lesson to learn, not ours.
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Context is important here: you are mining on a new pool being managed by a single guy who is making 0% fees. He is paying for the IT behind the pool from his own pocket and essentially offering you a free proxy to mine cooperatively. I would understand your point of view if this were an established large pool making piles of $ for it's owner, but that is just not the case. Pinpins is busting his ass to create his own custom pool for us and trying to cater to the new users as best he can. This includes adding low difficulty and new coins that are prone to "misbehaving".

In the case above, you were paid with BTC that you didn't actually earn and likely came out of his own pocket. He is using the available technology to predict, as best he can, what you will eventually get paid for mining a coin. Until those coins or exchanged BTC end up in the pool coffers it isn't real and, as we've seen over the last few weeks, there is a lot that can go wrong. Altcoins can be fickle beasts.

There are bound to be growing pains associated with new pools; if you are worried about wasted hashrates for a single day, stick to the giant established pools who will happily take 1-2% off the top of your earnings and won't be as flexible with pool structure. I prefer the small pool "feel" and ability to directly mine a coin directly or not via his custom "mc=" flag, which is rare.

I'm happily earning myself back out of the "BTC red" right now and will continue mining here because of the tireless effort Pinpins is putting in to try to make his site user-friendly (does this guy ever sleep?).


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Besides, this have happend also on zpool.ca I think.
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February 02, 2018, 09:19:35 PM
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https://picload.org/view/ddwagpgw/ou.png.html

https://picload.org/view/ddwagpda/ou2.jpg.html

Pending/Normal ok -> 0.01
Really make -> 0.001
(10% from 100%)

Verry not fine...

Ok, thank you for your work... its a nice Pool.
Please make 0.5-2% Fee + no so problems...
Better 0.5-2% Fee pay as so problem...

Thank you for your Support and more.

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February 02, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
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Yes, first drop in green line is when I prevent wrong earnings to convert to balance, managed to remove them.

Second adjustment I did just now was to fix amount which managed to transform to balance.

If you have a look at graph you had rapid grow in pending(green) and the same rapid grow after 8 hurs in balance(blue) copying pattern of growth.

So that rapid growth in balance (blue) should not be happening because of SPARK fork.... And this is what I have adjusted just now. Given that many of you recieved payments for this earlier- you will see minus at some balances.
Whoa, stop right there. We are using your pool, your software, if a fork happened that is at your expense. Please credit back my earnings...we still have to pay for our electricity whilst you had us mining rubbish.
Please re-imburse withing 24 hours.

This is your lesson to learn, not ours.
J

Context is important here: you are mining on a new pool being managed by a single guy who is making 0% fees. He is paying for the IT behind the pool from his own pocket and essentially offering you a free proxy to mine cooperatively. I would understand your point of view if this were an established large pool making piles of $ for it's owner, but that is just not the case. Pinpins is busting his ass to create his own custom pool for us and trying to cater to the new users as best he can. This includes adding low difficulty and new coins that are prone to "misbehaving".

In the case above, you were paid with BTC that you didn't actually earn and likely came out of his own pocket. He is using the available technology to predict, as best he can, what you will eventually get paid for mining a coin. Until those coins or exchanged BTC end up in the pool coffers it isn't real and, as we've seen over the last few weeks, there is a lot that can go wrong. Altcoins can be fickle beasts.

There are bound to be growing pains associated with new pools; if you are worried about wasted hashrates for a single day, stick to the giant established pools who will happily take 1-2% off the top of your earnings and won't be as flexible with pool structure. I prefer the small pool "feel" and ability to directly mine a coin directly or not via his custom "mc=" flag, which is rare.

I'm happily earning myself back out of the "BTC red" right now and will continue mining here because of the tireless effort Pinpins is putting in to try to make his site user-friendly (does this guy ever sleep?).


Ok "holds hands up"
Right Mr pinpins - i stand by my first statement - your problem, your loss, not ours....HOWEVER

I only came across you last night, can't remember how,can't even remember where my search started, a neoscrypt miner i think, but it was via github and SniffDog fork package, and i basically ran it, and then looked at where it was mining, and ended up at your pool.

I ran the "light" version, and next i was mining, and earning.
I basically saw it was working so left it running for many hours....i just assumed you were a long established pool

That said, now i have seen your "ann" and read a little about what you are actually trying to do, and how new the pool is, i have to give credit where it's due.
Well done! I didn't even notice it was zero fee.
So as i say i stand by my original outburst, but i also apologise for being a "bull in a china shop".
You are trying to achieve a pool, like the ones i used to mine years ago (they all disapperared) and i can only wish you great luck in doing that.
Please push forward knowing that rather than knock your pool, i will actually promote it positively to people who ask me.
Teething troubles are inevitable, so lets push forward together.
Looking forward to being able to point my mixed rig at your pool (Nvidia and AMD). Now that would be ace.

J
BTW Mr papacheal, Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways Smiley Glad you did.
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February 02, 2018, 09:52:58 PM
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Context is important here: you are mining on a new pool being managed by a single guy who is making 0% fees. He is paying for the IT behind the pool from his own pocket and essentially offering you a free proxy to mine cooperatively. I would understand your point of view if this were an established large pool making piles of $ for it's owner, but that is just not the case. Pinpins is busting his ass to create his own custom pool for us and trying to cater to the new users as best he can. This includes adding low difficulty and new coins that are prone to "misbehaving".
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Ok "holds hands up"
Right Mr pinpins - i stand by my first statement - your problem, your loss, not ours....HOWEVER
...
That said, now i have seen your "ann" and read a little about what you are actually trying to do, and how new the pool is, i have to give credit where it's due.
Well done! I didn't even notice it was zero fee.
So as i say i stand by my original outburst, but i also apologise for being a "bull in a china shop".
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BTW Mr papacheal, Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways Smiley Glad you did.

I have to admit I was just about to post something very similar to your rant after seeing about 35% of my last 5 days of mining get vaporized, but papacheal made a compelling case to not go on the warpath...

That said, I gave Zergpool a try because pinpins promoted it in the Trezarcoin thread and I liked that it is one of the few auto-exchange pools that has this coin (which I mine every now and then already). So I feel a bit more justified in feeling that your original point still holds - Zergpool may be new, but just like I had to learn the hard way about hard forks and mistyping wallet addresses and rigs crashing right after I went to bed, etc., pinpins needs to learn about software/coding that can block a port on his pool when a coin forks or otherwise orphans.

And like my mom always drilled into me as a kid, you only get one chance to make a first impression.

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February 02, 2018, 10:11:15 PM
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Entire pool was going to minus because of don't earned money, I already covered 0.1BTC from my own, but rest I have to adjust. Thank you understanding, and fingress crossed for no more forks..

Please just adjust the fee to 0.5 or 1%, it is fine and we don't really mind as long as the pool is stable, the issues are resolved in time and/or the losses are reimbursed by the owner's fee. Note that as the userbase grows, you will encounter very serious performance issues and probably will get regular DDOS attacks. You need the fee, but just don't do any hidden fees, we all know the zpool's reputation.

Keep adding the fresh neoscrypt coins, perhaps drop the unprofitable ones after a week or so, and you'll be set.
I'm mining on your pool and it seems good so far. Getting higher profit compared to ahash and refinery.
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February 02, 2018, 10:59:49 PM
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Entire pool was going to minus because of don't earned money, I already covered 0.1BTC from my own, but rest I have to adjust. Thank you understanding, and fingress crossed for no more forks..

Please just adjust the fee to 0.5 or 1%, it is fine and we don't really mind as long as the pool is stable, the issues are resolved in time and/or the losses are reimbursed by the owner's fee. Note that as the userbase grows, you will encounter very serious performance issues and probably will get regular DDOS attacks. You need the fee, but just don't do any hidden fees, we all know the zpool's reputation.

Keep adding the fresh neoscrypt coins, perhaps drop the unprofitable ones after a week or so, and you'll be set.
I'm mining on your pool and it seems good so far. Getting higher profit compared to ahash and refinery.
Compared to ahash, Zpool reputation should be of pure angelic devotion to miners Smiley

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2835350

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February 03, 2018, 12:27:43 AM
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502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server.
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502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server
1 week mining with my home PC  Angry
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February 03, 2018, 02:19:41 AM
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Pool worth nothing if you can't connect.  The three major pools I can always connect.

EDIT: this has been down for hours now.  Is this running at the person's house? A server running in a datacenter should never be down this long.
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February 03, 2018, 05:43:10 AM
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Pool worth nothing if you can't connect.  The three major pools I can always connect.

EDIT: this has been down for hours now.  Is this running at the person's house? A server running in a datacenter should never be down this long.

Maybe he cashed out  Roll Eyes
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February 03, 2018, 05:51:39 AM
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Pool worth nothing if you can't connect.  The three major pools I can always connect.

EDIT: this has been down for hours now.  Is this running at the person's house? A server running in a datacenter should never be down this long.
502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server
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February 03, 2018, 05:56:09 AM
Last edit: February 03, 2018, 06:38:14 AM by pinpins
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One of the disks in array crashed overight. Now working to bring it up on backup disk.

There should not be any a loss of data

 ETA 2-4 hours
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February 03, 2018, 06:02:52 AM
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One of the disks in array crashed overight. No working to bring it up on backup disk.

There should not be any a loss of data

 ETA 2 hours
when the server and site will work
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February 03, 2018, 06:52:00 AM
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UPDATE:


I completely understand frustration, and you can't imagine how was I frustrated in a monring. Have no idea why I was given with some many challenges from beginning, but will try to stay professional and the update as following.

Currently machine is being restored on backup disk, once it is done I will bring it up on backup disks, they are slower, but should not be an impact for end user.
Meanwhile we will be back online, I will prepare spare disks in main array and will prepare system to boot there. And will swap later to production machine

The state we will restore will be time of crash, which is 8hours ago.
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