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August 18, 2013, 03:22:57 AM
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Taking up to 5 BTC in bets that Casinobit & their investment situation is or will turn into a Ponzi scheme.

Proposition:

Casinobit will be a proven Ponzi scheme within the next 3 months. This will be confirmed through inability to withdraw investments.

If Casinbit is not a proven Ponzi scheme within the next 3 months, I will return double your wager. If it is, I will keep your wager.

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Would use that big website, but I honestly don't understand all that weighting stuff (Yeh.. call me dumb Cheesy), just want a clean wager.

Willing to use Doog or Stunna (If they abide, I'm sure they will though) as escrow for any bets!

Simply post here or PM me if you wish to take me up on this! Cheesy.

Stop drinkin' that hatorade. Casinobit is legit.
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August 18, 2013, 03:35:52 AM
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Y'all still up for the bet? 15BTC for 3 months is a little low, I will bet 30BTC that I won't scam for a month, it will be a nice addition to my monthly salary, if you are still up for more then I will also bet for month 2 & 3 after that.

15 BTC? Deal.

Doog as escrow?
Lol, I'm sure he'll back out cause just-dice Tongue
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August 18, 2013, 07:21:59 AM
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He claims to have 1000-1500 unique visitors per day.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/casinobit.net#trafficstats

The traffic he claims is a lie. As is his whole investment scheme. And if you guys haven't noticed, he had 100btc in bets over 8 months, and now ever since he started the investment scheme last week he has 2500btc in bets - that's most likely fake bets in my opinion to grow the investment scheme... Few days ago he claimed someone won 30btc on a bet, the bet wasn't shown in Top winners on his site (that could be a bug of course, as the site is buggy as hell). Let alone worst customer support that has ever existed on Earth, not addressing any of the users' doubts on the forum, not willing to show any concrete proof that there is no actual scam. He could at least address 001sonkit's long and very detailed accusation on how exactly he is cheating the users.  Let's not be naive here.
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August 18, 2013, 07:43:17 AM
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He claims to have 1000-1500 unique visitors per day.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/casinobit.net#trafficstats

The traffic he claims is a lie. As is his whole investment scheme. And if you guys haven't noticed, he had 100btc in bets over 8 months, and now ever since he started the investment scheme last week he has 2500btc in bets - that's most likely fake bets in my opinion to grow the investment scheme... Few days ago he claimed someone won 30btc on a bet, the bet wasn't shown in Top winners on his site (that could be a bug of course, as the site is buggy as hell). Let alone worst customer support that has ever existed on Earth, not addressing any of the users' doubts on the forum, not willing to show any concrete proof that there is no actual scam. He could at least address 001sonkit's long and very detailed accusation on how exactly he is cheating the users.  Let's not be naive here.

What he is cheating is the investors. It is totally true that the investment scheme is related to the roulette wheel below, very obviously that if someone bet and loses, you get his coins. But what he didn't tell you is that new investments are calculated as a "winning" to old investors. That's why we've seen some people saying that he got from 5BTC to 25 BTC over the night while there aren't even much losing bets that cover the profit it got. And meanwhile it had been running for a week, owner of CB instead of finding whats wrong with the large amount of suspicious profit that is more than what the site had won (eg: house own 90BTC and there aren't 90BTC bets, and people are saying their profit is like doubled). He advertised on how well this scheme is moving on.
This would remain 2 solution:
1. He is smart enough to not even know how a ponzi scheme works
2. (As seen on Just-Dice user chat room)


And for the traffic result:

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August 18, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
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What proof do you have of it being a ponzi? PM me so I can put it in my Ongoing Scams Thread where Casinobit is currently listed as trusted.
If there were hard evidence, there'd be no space for betting.  Cheesy

So there is no evidence what-so-ever? Just speculations/assumptions?

That's about your entire "scam" list.

Sure, what casino are you working for again?

Yep! Wanna take me up?

Sounds like you are bluffing to get a pump-n-dump opportunity.

The stupid is strong with this one. Most of your accusations have no proof, but when multiple trusted members attempt to call something out, you don't like it  Roll Eyes

Me? None. I might have one in the future, but right now, nada.

Sure, I am also willing to believe you mate.

Is your scam list still ongoing? Did you manage to get any proof for any of your scam accusations?

Actually, why are you even schilling this particular thread?

This really must be a blow for you, since one of the only 2 verified and trustworthy sites on your list is being challenged.



It is being challenged by a bunch of scammers.

Hilarious.

CasinoBit has WAY too much ponzi written all over it for you to invest now. If it is a ponzi, all the withdrawals that are coming will mean that you get nothing out. I don't think CasinoBit will last 3 months now, or at least it's investment part won't.
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August 18, 2013, 10:22:51 AM
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He claims to have 1000-1500 unique visitors per day.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/casinobit.net#trafficstats

The traffic he claims is a lie. As is his whole investment scheme. And if you guys haven't noticed, he had 100btc in bets over 8 months, and now ever since he started the investment scheme last week he has 2500btc in bets - that's most likely fake bets in my opinion to grow the investment scheme... Few days ago he claimed someone won 30btc on a bet, the bet wasn't shown in Top winners on his site (that could be a bug of course, as the site is buggy as hell). Let alone worst customer support that has ever existed on Earth, not addressing any of the users' doubts on the forum, not willing to show any concrete proof that there is no actual scam. He could at least address 001sonkit's long and very detailed accusation on how exactly he is cheating the users.  Let's not be naive here.

First of, personal competitive attacks are just unprofessional and shows how immature and inexperienced you are, I will be the bigger man and reserve my thoughts on your design and/or the way you operate.

He claims to have 1000-1500 unique visitors per day.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/casinobit.net#trafficstats

The traffic he claims is a lie. As is his whole investment scheme. And if you guys haven't noticed, he had 100btc in bets over 8 months, and now ever since he started the investment scheme last week he has 2500btc in bets - that's most likely fake bets in my opinion to grow the investment scheme... Few days ago he claimed someone won 30btc on a bet, the bet wasn't shown in Top winners on his site (that could be a bug of course, as the site is buggy as hell). Let alone worst customer support that has ever existed on Earth, not addressing any of the users' doubts on the forum, not willing to show any concrete proof that there is no actual scam. He could at least address 001sonkit's long and very detailed accusation on how exactly he is cheating the users.  Let's not be naive here.

What he is cheating is the investors. It is totally true that the investment scheme is related to the roulette wheel below, very obviously that if someone bet and loses, you get his coins. But what he didn't tell you is that new investments are calculated as a "winning" to old investors. That's why we've seen some people saying that he got from 5BTC to 25 BTC over the night while there aren't even much losing bets that cover the profit it got. And meanwhile it had been running for a week, owner of CB instead of finding whats wrong with the large amount of suspicious profit that is more than what the site had won (eg: house own 90BTC and there aren't 90BTC bets, and people are saying their profit is like doubled). He advertised on how well this scheme is moving on.
This would remain 2 solution:
1. He is smart enough to not even know how a ponzi scheme works
2. (As seen on Just-Dice user chat room)


And for the traffic result:

Like you've proven that I do not have enough bets made along with TradeFortress right?

He claims to have 1000-1500 unique visitors per day.

That doesn't make any sense.


I get more views due to dozens of affiliates (as well as coinurl), I wasn't trying to discredit just-dice, just to show that doog is a double faced hypocrite. I have already provided more data and have more positive proof than he ever will yet he keeps on demanding evidence with bogus, unfounded claims of pyramid scheme and you fools keep echoing the same, the only person who has showed any evidence so far is 001sonkit and that evidence isn't credible.

Y'all still up for the bet? 15BTC for 3 months is a little low, I will bet 30BTC that I won't scam for a month, it will be a nice addition to my monthly salary, if you are still up for more then I will also bet for month 2 & 3 after that.

15 BTC? Deal.

Doog as escrow?

Raise another 15BTC and I'm in. We won't use Doog as escrow.

I can imagine the terms being as the following:
All parties betting for Casinobit being a scam cannot post on official Casinobit topics or commenting on Casinobit activities in any shape or form.
Unpaid transactions are regarded as investors or players not being paid 3 business days after email contact AND a forum post in the official Casinobit topic.

Sounds good to you?

Hilarious.

CasinoBit has WAY too much ponzi written all over it for you to invest now. If it is a ponzi, all the withdrawals that are coming will mean that you get nothing out. I don't think CasinoBit will last 3 months now, or at least it's investment part won't.

What evidence do you have again? Have you ever been an investor and investigated the matter yourself?
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August 18, 2013, 10:29:01 AM
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You're saying you DON'T want to use an escrow?

You're saying I send you the coins, and if CasinoBit is a Ponzi, expect you to pay me out?

... Are you kidding me right now?
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August 18, 2013, 10:32:32 AM
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You're saying you DON'T want to use an escrow?

You're saying I send you the coins, and if CasinoBit is a Ponzi, expect you to pay me out?

... Are you kidding me right now?

He calls it a win-win situation. For himself.
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August 18, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
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You're saying you DON'T want to use an escrow?

You're saying I send you the coins, and if CasinoBit is a Ponzi, expect you to pay me out?

... Are you kidding me right now?

I am saying I don't want to use DOOG as escrow, I am still willing to use a third party service as escrow.

You are a bunch of clowns.
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August 18, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
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You're saying you DON'T want to use an escrow?

You're saying I send you the coins, and if CasinoBit is a Ponzi, expect you to pay me out?

... Are you kidding me right now?

I am saying I don't want to use DOOG as escrow, I am still willing to use a third party service as escrow.

You are a bunch of clowns.

How about John K?
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August 18, 2013, 10:43:22 AM
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First of, personal competitive attacks are just unprofessional and shows how immature and inexperienced you are, I will be the bigger man and reserve my thoughts on your design and/or the way you operate.


I do not see how the attacks are personal when they are clearly exposing your bad business practices.
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August 18, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
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First of, personal competitive attacks are just unprofessional and shows how immature and inexperienced you are, I will be the bigger man and reserve my thoughts on your design and/or the way you operate.


I do not see how the attacks are personal when they are clearly exposing your bad business practices.

How do you know that? Have you ever invested or investigated the matter?

You're saying you DON'T want to use an escrow?

You're saying I send you the coins, and if CasinoBit is a Ponzi, expect you to pay me out?

... Are you kidding me right now?

I am saying I don't want to use DOOG as escrow, I am still willing to use a third party service as escrow.

You are a bunch of clowns.

How about John K?

I would rather use BitBet.us to tell you the truth.
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August 18, 2013, 10:50:27 AM
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You are a bunch of clowns.

Speaking of bad business practices  Shocked haha Come on, show us your true side.  Tongue

How do I know it? 13 years of online gambling and internet marketing experience is how I know it. Your traffic claims are ridiculous, your bet activity on site the past week is the very least suspicious as I have been following it since the start of it, the way you deal with CS matters it outright terrible, you have not addressed an obvious, tested and proven ponzi claim by 001sonkit. Well excuse me but "We are not a scam" is not enough in such situations.
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August 18, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
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I can imagine the terms being as the following:
All parties betting for Casinobit being a scam cannot post on official Casinobit topics or commenting on Casinobit activities in any shape or form.
Unpaid transactions are regarded as investors or players not being paid 3 business days after email contact AND a forum post in the official Casinobit topic.
Are you trying to use ponzi money to silence scam accusations? By chance is you name Trendon Shavers former known as pirateat40?
Paid using victims money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1013612#msg1013612

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August 18, 2013, 11:06:44 AM
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You are a bunch of clowns.

Speaking of bad business practices  Shocked haha Come on, show us your true side.  Tongue

How do I know it? 13 years of online gambling and internet marketing experience is how I know it. Your traffic claims are ridiculous, your bet activity on site the past week is the very least suspicious as I have been following it since the start of it, the way you deal with CS matters it outright terrible, you have not addressed an obvious, tested and proven ponzi claim by 001sonkit. Well excuse me but "We are not a scam" is not enough in such situations.

Zaih has little to no reading abilities, I have claimed I do not approve of Doog as escrow yet he somehow assumes that I do not want to use escrow at all and calls me out on it, calling him a clown is appropriate.

My traffic claims are not ridiculous, we are one of the oldest Bitcoin casinos on the net, CS matters are also professional and within a timely manner. As for 001sonkit, he has already made a reputation for playing around with the CSS/AJAX calls, he has also made the claims of -3/25 confirmation bug which would only occur if you tried to withdraw less than the minimum amount of 0.01BTC for which an error code of -3 would be returned.

In any case, before running your mouth, invest yourself, test the matter yourself and don't vouch for others (especially people you do not know and people that some claim are scammers), because if you do and they are not right YOU are the one looking like a fool.

I can imagine the terms being as the following:
All parties betting for Casinobit being a scam cannot post on official Casinobit topics or commenting on Casinobit activities in any shape or form.
Unpaid transactions are regarded as investors or players not being paid 3 business days after email contact AND a forum post in the official Casinobit topic.
Are you trying to use ponzi money to silence scam accusations? By chance is you name Trendon Shavers former known as pirateat40?
Paid using victims money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1013612#msg1013612


Why would I want people that have clear personal interest making scam accusations and spamming my topic scaring the customers away? How is my not wanting this indicative of being a scam?
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August 18, 2013, 11:40:10 AM
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Well it is really up to you to prove everyone wrong.
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August 18, 2013, 02:22:12 PM
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John K Is more impartial than whatever betting site you want to use. For all we know, you could be in contact with that admin.

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August 18, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
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the CSS/AJAX calls

BEWARE OF CSS CALLS!

BEEP BEP
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August 18, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
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the CSS/AJAX calls

BEWARE OF CSS CALLS!

#call{
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August 18, 2013, 02:25:56 PM
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the CSS/AJAX calls

BEWARE OF CSS CALLS!

the CSS/(AJAX calls)
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