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August 17, 2013, 01:58:25 PM
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2013年,由于比特币币值大起大落,让比特币进入了很多中国人的视野,这个时候有一个前新东方的老师李笑来,接受电视媒体采访并自称拥有6位数(几十万个,目前价值几千万美金)比特币,李笑来顺理成章地成为中国比特币第一大拿。此后李笑来先生利用众多媒体报道带来的名声进行了一系列高明的操作:

1、向公众募集资金成立bitfund.pe,此基金网站注册费用为1个比特币,最初价格10万元每股,最新的业内消息,目前价格已上涨至22万元人民币每股。
2、投资ASICME期货矿机等一系列比特币相关公司
3、一边宣称自己从来不向他人推荐比特币,一边不断在各大媒体频繁露脸,宣称自己拥有大量比特币。

然而短短的两个月,李笑来先生最近和其公开宣称投资的ASICME期货矿机公司关系出现了180度大转弯:

1、2013年6月9日下午,在pingwest组织的比特币沙龙上,李笑来先生和ASICME的创始人杨曜睿先生公开宣布,bitfund投资ASICME,并给了很高的估值.李笑来先生宣称和杨的前同事王兴是朋友,自己也有朋友在ASICME的团队,并且调侃看到杨曜睿胡子比头发长,就放心投资了。李笑来先生和杨曜睿还同时登台,接受媒体和用户的访谈。下图中间两位就是李笑来和杨曜睿先生。
http://pic.yupoo.com/bitcoinuser001/D5Q8prZM/5Przh.jpg

2、ASICME宣称在短短的1个月内预售近500万元的期货矿机以及出租算力等,参见新浪网报道。
http://pic.yupoo.com/bitcoinuser001/D5Q9EQUV/e2GIx.jpg

3、2013年8月1日,ASICME在bitcointalk宣布停止出租算力。
http://pic.yupoo.com/bitcoinuser001/D5Q84RS3/w71Uj.jpg

4、ASICME的期货矿机迟迟不能发货,少部分收到货的朋友非常不满,付了大量预付款的矿工朋友开始大骂ASICME和杨老板是中国比特币界最高明的骗子。
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5、ASICME公司公布招股书,准备IPO

6、2013年8月14日,Bitfund宣布和ASICME决裂
http://pic.yupoo.com/bitcoinuser001/D5Q86t84/qg5Lr.jpg

短短两个月,戏剧性的变化让看客们大跌眼界,我收集了很多网友的意见,大家对李笑来先生有八大疑问:


1、到底持有多少比特币,您可以在公开场合亮出比特币钱包,以解大众疑惑,而不是长期故弄玄虚的宣称自己拥有大量比特币
2、bitfund向多少人募资了?这些人出资人是否有人不是你的亲戚朋友的人?bitfund是否有非法吸收公众存款或非法集资之嫌?
3、您宣称拥有的6位数的比特币价值几千万美元,您拿到10%的比特币,就够2000万人民币了,为什么还要全国路演,利用媒体带来的名声向公众募资?
4、您先是在公开场合宣称投资ASICME,并给了很高的估值,后来bitfund又宣称“比特基金及李笑来先生曾一度支持ASICME的工作,只有口头协议”,到底哪一次您向公众撒慌了?
5、您还有没有向公众和媒体撒其他的谎言?
6、ASICME是否在消费您通过媒体获得的名声,来大卖期货矿机?
7、你与ASICME因为什么具体原因走向决裂?是否是利益分配问题?
8、ASICME到底预售了多少矿机?价值人民币多少?您从中获取了多少利益?


比特币的世界很美妙,真是充满各种骗子和陷阱......
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August 17, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
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就是俩骗子,只是法律和时机不到罢了。
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August 17, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
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一个马甲,去质问一个不拥有公权力的公民的资产...
你当然有权利问,人家也有权利不回答吧。
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August 17, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
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人家有多少钱也不关咱啥事。

不过这条关注下 4、您先是在公开场合宣称投资ASICME,并给了很高的估值,后来bitfund又宣称“比特基金及李笑来先生曾一度支持ASICME的工作,只有口头协议”,到底哪一次您向公众撒慌了?
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August 17, 2013, 02:48:58 PM
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俩骗子。李笑来是个大投机商,老杨则是个撞上南瓜不发货的倒霉的小商贩。李笑来骗在大忽悠,忽悠大宗投资者;老杨骗在小忽悠,忽悠小白矿工。
总之btc在中国肯定会有人进局子的,当然不见得是他俩。
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August 17, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
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到底是怎么回事?
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August 17, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
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1,李笑来被人消费了,一开始打这李笑来的旗号,后来也没有知情权,更不要说利润分红啥的。都是口头协议。

2,杨曜睿,网上根本查不出这人任何资料,校内网联合创始人有4个,杨不在其中。用网络公司的操作手法来搞比特币并不合适。网络公司都是免费拉用户,烧风险投资的钱,赚了赔了都是风投的。  而矿工购买矿机,为的就是能赚,起码要回本。割小白的肉,煮汤给小白喝,这样太次。 纯一数字游戏。
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August 17, 2013, 04:00:46 PM
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签个到,李笑来是老师,不是奸商。
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August 17, 2013, 04:02:45 PM
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一个不同意,杨耀瑞肯定进局子,要不就要被人砍,不信走着瞧。其次这是狗咬狗一嘴毛,再次有多少币确实不关我等事。

杨耀瑞我认为就是一胆大的骗子,生猛,这种人往往稚气未消,但学了一肚子尔虞我诈,做人不诚信,缺乏商场里最起码的道德。我只知道,跟其打交道者必吃亏。都说仁者乐山智者乐水,这姓杨的在西藏和三亚这几年真是糟蹋这地方了。

你现在挖矿的10T算力为何不分给第二批用户?真要让这些用户赔7~8成然后砍你?有芯片就该发货,不发货理由千千万,二傻都能想出来。矿工就知道俩道理,你没按时发货,你有矿机自己偷挖。

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August 17, 2013, 04:20:44 PM
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必须帮顶,李老师就是一个江湖骗子,利欲熏心,利用名声招摇撞骗,诋毁竞争对手。

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August 17, 2013, 04:27:23 PM
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笑来被利用了
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August 18, 2013, 02:01:58 AM
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好文,一切留待时间去检验~
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August 19, 2013, 02:31:46 AM
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笑来老师和小白们,都被asicme坑了!好大坑!
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August 19, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
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狗咬狗一嘴毛

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August 19, 2013, 07:40:59 AM
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媒体的话都当真就不要活了

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August 19, 2013, 01:52:54 PM
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围观。。。

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August 20, 2013, 09:13:02 AM
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这贴有水平  必须跟踪
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August 20, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
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忽悠李和骗子杨的对决,谁输谁赢?谁又能说的清呢
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August 20, 2013, 11:29:02 PM
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央视忽悠了这么久,都没见有投诉的。。三鹿啥的大家还记得不,只投诉代言人,没见投诉电视台的。
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LZ的想法是好的,但是还是太过于简单。

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August 21, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
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或比特币的负面消息将接踵而来!前景堪忧!密切关注!谨慎介入!
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August 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
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我们小白用户需要正义
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August 23, 2013, 02:36:44 AM
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我相信李笑来是被人利用了,但是影响已经造成,李笑来也莫可奈何~
对于腹黑的人大多数人都是没有防范能力的!
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September 06, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
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最近ASICME淘宝店铺关闭,网站购买链接取消,客服消失,跑路迹象非常明显。

请李笑先生和ASICME出来解释?
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最近ASICME淘宝店铺关闭,网站购买链接取消,客服消失,跑路迹象非常明显。

请李笑先生和ASICME出来解释?


asicme的淘宝店已经恢复了目前
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September 06, 2013, 01:06:58 PM
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杨曜瑞现在微博都不敢开评论了。
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September 06, 2013, 03:04:45 PM
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骗子。。。。。。。

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September 08, 2013, 01:59:43 PM
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有钱赚,你好,我也好,没钱赚,就各自小九九。不大气
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September 08, 2013, 05:35:27 PM
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算力出租停止,就开始怪了,asicme的淘宝店恢复,不知道是重新开始...
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谁买谁好用。
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看了八问,觉得楼主智商硬伤,个人看法,呵呵。
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骗子太多了

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June 16, 2014, 04:48:57 AM
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李笑来不能信的,真心是骗子啊。。
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此事最后的结果是啥?
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June 16, 2014, 07:22:24 AM
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顶帖,傻眼了,谎言看你怎么去圆上
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那不是大V,那是大坑 Grin Grin
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June 16, 2014, 06:58:19 PM
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管他多少呢,反正是比我多
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June 17, 2014, 05:59:49 AM
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李老师出名的吃人不吐骨头
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June 17, 2014, 06:00:47 AM
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李老师出名的吃人不吐骨头
哈哈,一点都不夸张
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June 17, 2014, 06:35:29 AM
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李的谎言怎么去圆啊
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June 17, 2014, 06:38:41 AM
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这又是一年前的事情了

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June 17, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
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又是李老师。。哈哈
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June 24, 2014, 12:44:27 PM
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笑来大神啊。。。我呵呵了,原离大V珍惜生命
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June 24, 2014, 12:53:57 PM
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现在骗子太多了,都自己睁大眼睛吧
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June 24, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
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是啊,骗子太多了,大家都小心了啊
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June 24, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
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大家都注意了,遇事都留个心眼啊
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June 24, 2014, 02:22:41 PM
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不知道问出什么来没
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June 24, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
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看到李晓来的名字就不舒服呢

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June 24, 2014, 03:57:07 PM
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李笑来成功地用骗术博得了名利双收。
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August 31, 2014, 06:56:41 AM
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骗子必将严惩!!
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August 31, 2014, 08:20:05 AM
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一年多前的帖子都被翻出来了,如果李因此就算骗子,他这一年早就没法混了

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August 31, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
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一年多前的帖子都被翻出来了,如果李因此就算骗子,他这一年早就没法混了
关于李笑来是骗子的声音还蛮多的。有帖子有例子.不知道是真是假
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August 31, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
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这个新东方的老师就是个骗子,人面兽心 Grin

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August 31, 2014, 02:36:41 PM
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最近看了不少历史书,是不是骗子当下很难说,留着等10年20年后再看吧
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August 31, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
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俩个出来招摇撞骗的大骗子忽悠起来要人命啊真是

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August 31, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
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一年多前的帖子都被翻出来了,如果李因此就算骗子,他这一年早就没法混了
他脸皮太厚,小白太多.
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September 01, 2014, 04:28:09 AM
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各种骗
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September 11, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
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就是俩骗子,只是法律和时机不到罢了。
骗子可耻啊!大家赚钱都不容易啊!

 
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September 12, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
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笑来先生走眼了。
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